Charlie Adam charged with drink driving

It’s really crazy and obviously good how stigmatic drink driving is in the UK. In Holland half the population still do it with a grin
 
Sad but Stupid!!!!!

Glad he is ok & more so no one else was affected.

We all make mistakes in life but Charlie seems to make more than most.

Like I say “Sad but STUPID”!!!!!!
 
Thank God it was only a tree and not another car could have easily killed someone.
What a fool, not one of your better moments Charlie.
 
Scaramanga said:
Never understand this, the blokes minted and could afford a driver if he wanted. Just get a cab you pleb.
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Exactly, Ant McParland, the Spurs keeper etc, etc. Just pay someone sober to drive you home, there are plenty of sober people who will take your money.
Adam has probably just cost himself a lucrative career as a pundit, idiot.
 
Charlie - always a legend, but drink driving is unforgivable. Especially when you have the money for a taxi and dozens of mates who would give you a lift.
Simple rule - never have one drink and then drive.
We're pleased that Charlie appears to be OK and that he never hurt / killed anyone.
 
ElBurroSinNombre said:
Exactly, Ant McParland, the Spurs keeper etc, etc. Just pay someone sober to drive you home, there are plenty of sober people who will take your money.
Adam has probably just cost himself a lucrative career as a pundit, idiot.
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It amazes us, how nobs like those you mention are quickly forgiven, return to super star status & return to earning millions. If you're a lawyer, doctor, teacher, cop etc, you're highly likely to lose your job, career, income, house etc.
Drink driving is a terribly selfish offence, and even though we love Charlie, if he's guilty, he's destroyed his reputation, his integrity and his future job prospects.
 
People break the law and get punished so its a 'move on' from me, and I'm sure he's regretting already.

Funnily enough I was reading yesterday that in Sweden the drink drive limits are considerably less, so effectively you'd had to forego a drink 24 hours before getting into a vehicle which makes drink/driving tolerable.

One or two might be over the limit with the Christmas period coming up and without realising it be breaking the law.
 
nameless said:
People break the law and get punished so its a 'move on' from me, and I'm sure he's regretting already.

Funnily enough I was reading yesterday that in Sweden the drink drive limits are considerably less, so effectively you'd had to forego a drink 24 hours before getting into a vehicle which makes drink/driving tolerable.

One or two might be over the limit with the Christmas period coming up and without realising it be breaking the law.
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This time of the year, all Police forces conduct 'morning after' road checks, with the intention of catching those who have alcohol in their system from the night before.
A TV doctor stated last week, that if you drink a bottle of in the evening, it'll be at least 1pm the next day before you're below the legal limit.
 
It’s not hard to get pulled in Scotland for drunk driving anyway, as they have a medicinal limit only.
 
NewburyOne said:
Alleged gents, let's not throw him under the bus until it has been confirmed.
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Brett scores for fun said:
This time of the year, all Police forces conduct 'morning after' road checks, with the intention of catching those who have alcohol in their system from the night before.
A TV doctor stated last week, that if you drink a bottle of in the evening, it'll be at least 1pm the next day before you're below the legal limit.
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That's crap unless the missing word is scotch. I used to use an app called RUPissed to check my status (always to ensure near zero before driving) and it does not take that long for a bottle of wine to leave the system.

Drink drive is totally unforgiveable. I would also say that I have very strong views on professional footballers drinking during the season. I have no problem with the low earners, but those in the Championship / EPL are paid enough to sacrifice that. In most other sports (e.g. cycling, track & field) they do not drink during the season
 
ElBurroSinNombre said:
Exactly, Ant McParland, the Spurs keeper etc, etc. Just pay someone sober to drive you home, there are plenty of sober people who will take your money.
Adam has probably just cost himself a lucrative career as a pundit, idiot.
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Or has he? Talksport employ exclusively drink drivers it seems - for instance Dean Saunders was back in a flash 😗
Sometimes, but obviously not always, this kind of thing is an indication of something deeper going on. On a human level I hope he's OK, but why oh why would anybody drink drive these days?
 
Mark_GT said:
Or has he? Talksport employ exclusively drink drivers it seems - for instance Dean Saunders was back in a flash 😗
Sometimes, but obviously not always, this kind of thing is an indication of something deeper going on. On a human level I hope he's OK, but why oh why would anybody drink drive these days?
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Presumably people drink drive is because they have had a drink and common sense has left the building.... Why do people dance like a knobhead or argue the toss with bouncers or throw up all over the bathroom etc... Alcohol makes people do stupid stuff
 
Is it not accepted that a couple of pre- match pints of low/ medium strength beer is OK.
It is 2 hours or more from last drop to driving again.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Presumably people drink drive is because they have had a drink and common sense has left the building.... Why do people dance like a knobhead or argue the toss with bouncers or throw up all over the bathroom etc... Alcohol makes people do stupid stuff
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I would never drink drive sober.....
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Presumably people drink drive is because they have had a drink and common sense has left the building.... Why do people dance like a knobhead or argue the toss with bouncers or throw up all over the bathroom etc... Alcohol makes people do stupid stuff
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Yep, if you were sober you wouldn't drink drive.

Never take your car keys somewhere you'll be drinking is the simple solution, or just stop drinking because it's a bit silly anyway.
 
** idiot, he's also lucky to be alive, a tree is about as bad as a thing you can hit in a car, lots of fatalities from those accidents, pissed or not.

I did an intoximeter course many years ago when I was in the old bill and we were shown how everything worked etc., they then took us to the police bar and we were allowed to drink what we could in an hour. I had 3 pints of Guiness and because I hadn't eaten and it was in a short space of time I felt pretty pissed, the others on the course (4 of us) also had similar. We went back down to the machine and had to wait 45 minutes after the last drink, which is apparently when you are at peak alcohol level and all 4 of us blew under the limit, well under. We couldn't believe it and none of us would have driven home.

After the last drink and the 45 minutes the alcohol level starts to fall so someone who had a night out on the lash and went to bed at say 2am and was in a car at 8am, if they were over the limit they would have had to have had a lot of booze the night before!

After the course, if someone came in for drink drive and said they'd only had a couple yet blew 2 or 3 times over the limit then they had had a skilful.
 
hertfordseasider said:
** idiot, he's also lucky to be alive, a tree is about as bad as a thing you can hit in a car, lots of fatalities from those accidents, pissed or not.

I did an intoximeter course many years ago when I was in the old bill and we were shown how everything worked etc., they then took us to the police bar and we were allowed to drink what we could in an hour. I had 3 pints of Guiness and because I hadn't eaten and it was in a short space of time I felt pretty pissed, the others on the course (4 of us) also had similar. We went back down to the machine and had to wait 45 minutes after the last drink, which is apparently when you are at peak alcohol level and all 4 of us blew under the limit, well under. We couldn't believe it and none of us would have driven home.

After the last drink and the 45 minutes the alcohol level starts to fall so someone who had a night out on the lash and went to bed at say 2am and was in a car at 8am, if they were over the limit they would have had to have had a lot of booze the night before!

After the course, if someone came in for drink drive and said they'd only had a couple yet blew 2 or 3 times over the limit then they had had a skilful.
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The drink drive limit should be zero, drink anything and drive a car then you don't deserve a licence.

I'd also make the punishment licence gone for good, non of this 2 years crap.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
The drink drive limit should be zero, drink anything and drive a car then you don't deserve a licence.

I'd also make the punishment licence gone for good, non of this 2 years crap.
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You can’t do that…😮

For one thing it’s not necessary and disproportionate as far as the risk to life is concerned.

Then there are all manner of issues concerning low levels of alcohol, which might exist in foods, medicines etc..

As for the punishment, it’s also disproportionate and would likely make matters worse.


The rules are perfectly fine as they are… If we are short of anything then it’s the will to enforce the law as it stands, along with additional PR / education…
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
You can’t do that…😮

For one thing it’s not necessary and disproportionate as far as the risk to life is concerned.

Then there are all manner of issues concerning low levels of alcohol, which might exist in foods, medicines etc..

As for the punishment, it’s also disproportionate and would likely make matters worse.


The rules are perfectly fine as they are… If we are short of anything then it’s the will to enforce the law as it stands, along with additional PR / education…
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I'm not sure if you look at the evidence of reoffending that the rules are that fine.

Trace elements are completely different to a unit of alcohol.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
I'm not sure if you look at the evidence of reoffending that the rules are that fine.

Trace elements are completely different to a unit of alcohol.
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A second offence is a different matter... So you increase the punishment in those cases..

The prospect still exists for people to inadvertently have alcohol in their system and for loads of people who pose no risk to be criminalised and inconvenienced.... And where do you stop?

Do we then stop all old people from driving, maybe stop lads of a certain age from driving... Zero tolerance on all forms of drugs and medications... You must have 8 hours sleep before driving and take an enforced break every 2 hours etc...?

Any issue with drink drivers isn't as a result of people 'inadvertently' dipping over the limits... It's with people who've had way too much.

It's the classic "Bring Back Hanging" reactive stuff
 
Rotterdam+Sussex_Seasider said:
That's crap unless the missing word is scotch. I used to use an app called RUPissed to check my status (always to ensure near zero before driving) and it does not take that long for a bottle of wine to leave the system.

Drink drive is totally unforgiveable. I would also say that I have very strong views on professional footballers drinking during the season. I have no problem with the low earners, but those in the Championship / EPL are paid enough to sacrifice that. In most other sports (e.g. cycling, track & field) they do not drink during the season
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I can only repeat what the doctor said.
Those test yourself kits are notorious for being inaccurate. I wouldn't ever drive after consuming any alcohol & with regards to when the levels drop, I would always take the word of a professional over a DIY kit. That way you keep your licence!
 
In fairness it’s hard graft getting a taxi in the early hours at the moment.

*Disclaimer* please note this although truthful is not meant seriously.
 
With his money no excuse for not sorting a driver or taxi (most people have pushed the limit at some time and don’t tell me most of us haven’t) but when you have so much money just pay it, I expect you will now find out how much taxies cost, to say nothing of your reputation 😞😞😞 set an example, when you are a pubic figure, poor very poor.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
A second offence is a different matter... So you increase the punishment in those cases..

The prospect still exists for people to inadvertently have alcohol in their system and for loads of people who pose no risk to be criminalised and inconvenienced.... And where do you stop?

Do we then stop all old people from driving, maybe stop lads of a certain age from driving... Zero tolerance on all forms of drugs and medications... You must have 8 hours sleep before driving and take an enforced break every 2 hours etc...?

Any issue with drink drivers isn't as a result of people 'inadvertently' dipping over the limits... It's with people who've had way too much.

It's the classic "Bring Back Hanging" reactive stuff
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So it's acceptable to have three pints and get in the car because you know you'll probably pass a breathalyser?
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
So it's acceptable to have three pints and get in the car because you know you'll probably pass a breathalyser?
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No, but it is acceptable to go for a drive out for lunch and have a pint, to have a couple of pints before the footy and then drive home afterward, to pop out for a couple over a lunch or have an after work pint with workmates or to sink a pint after a game of squash or five aside before driving home.

As I said, I really don't think the issue is people who have mistakenly thought they were under, but they are over.... So people are either a) Responsible about their drinking or b) Irresponsible about it..

It just feels to me like a completely unnecessary 'big brother' / draconian type approach that attacks a big part of our culture and social interaction for people who are behaving in a responsible way.

Fuck me.... If we're not careful we're going to end up like a right bunch of sad mask wearing, soda water drinking scared to tell a dodgy joke or offend anyone, health and safety driven wankers... On the positive, our empty depressing non-existent lives will last much longer👍
 
Alcohol turns most people into nob heads I think it should be banned altogether, Charlie is known to be a user so it doesn't surprise me does this, hopefully he will get help with it as this might not be the last bad thing that happens. Alcohol will take you nowhere but down it just depends on each individual how long it takes to get to rock bottom.
 
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