Converting floating fans

Northstandsinger said:
How do we convert the floaters that came today to full time fans that come every week ?
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Youve got to remember also we have many exiles, people who work etc.

So for big games the majority of them will attend. You'll never get that for lesser games.

But for the casuals more days like today helps, cup runs with big teams, affordable price. Also helps exiles, when it's more affordable you're more likely to make the journey more often.

Simple.
 
The 6 `floating fans' that I know (Blackpool is their 2nd team) haven't attended a single game this season because of the £30 admission price.
And with Blackpool being their 2nd club, naturally none of them are remotely interested in filling in a tedious membership form.

And they all went to at least 2 or 3 games last season.

20 is plenty.
 
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Sensible ticket prices should lure a few in but not all of the 3000 or so that rocked up yesterday.
 
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Blackpool Are Back! said:
The 6 `floating fans' that I know (Blackpool is their 2nd team) haven't attended a single game this season because of the £30 admission price.
And with Blackpool being their 2nd club, naturally none of them are remotely interested in filling in a silly membership form.

And they all went to at least 2 or 3 games last season.

20 is plenty.
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👍 great slogan “ twenty is plenty”…..let’s hope it catches on
 
£20 is too cheap as it becomes pointless for many who miss games to buy Season Tickets,you then have to charge the away fans the same.
We all want Championship football which costs unless you want the club massively in debt to pay for it we have to do our bit .

£25 is the sweet spot for me.
 
poolseasider said:
£20 is too cheap as it becomes pointless for many who miss games to buy Season Tickets,you then have to charge the away fans the same.
We all want Championship football which costs unless you want the club massively in debt to pay for it we have to do our bit .

£25 is the sweet spot for me.
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The fact is there are "thousands" of empty seats most weeks. And every one of those empty seats is a lost opportunity with zero income coming in on them. So you either try and fill them cheap or you live with them being empty and them earning the club nothing.

Ridiculous to try and link those seats to the what season ticket holders pay. Whatever they charge, a season ticket is way less per game than a match day ticket. You talk about the "cost of Championship football". With your logic season ticket prices should also be far far higher in order for us to compete. You seem to want a cheap season ticket on one hand and high match day tickets as high as they can be on the other.
 
I would rather the club gave them away than having empty seats

I think everyone probably now agrees that £30 is too much and the membership hasn't been implemented properly

The ground was rocking yesterday now the challenge for the club is to get more home fans attending week in week out

Giving away fans more tickets isn't the answer
 
Macseasider said:
The fact is there are "thousands" of empty seats most weeks. And every one of those empty seats is a lost opportunity with zero income coming in on them. So you either try and fill them cheap or you live with them being empty and them earning the club nothing.

Ridiculous to try and link those seats to the what season ticket holders pay. Whatever they charge, a season ticket is way less per game than a match day ticket. You talk about the "cost of Championship football". With your logic season ticket prices should also be far far higher in order for us to compete. You seem to want a cheap season ticket on one hand and high match day tickets as high as they can be on the other.
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Where did I say I wanted cheap ST?
If you charge £20 to get in the difference is less than £4 a game and would potentially put off people from buying one as most don't get to 100% of games.

£30 is far too expensive around 25 similar to what most other Championship clubs charge is about right 20 too cheap with the loss in revenue and no guarantees of filling those empty seats.

Our attendances have been poor as long as I've been following the Pool(PL and the bounce after exception) it's just the nature of the town and always has been we had more ST holders this season and growing that year on year is important as fairweather fans will never change.
 
poolseasider said:
Where did I say I wanted cheap ST?
If you charge £20 to get in the difference is less than £4 a game and would potentially put off people from buying one as most don't get to 100% of games.

£30 is far too expensive around 25 similar to what most other Championship clubs charge is about right 20 too cheap with the loss in revenue and no guarantees of filling those empty seats.

Our attendances have been poor as long as I've been following the Pool(PL and the bounce after exception) it's just the nature of the town and always has been we had more ST holders this season and growing that year on year is important as fairweather fans will never change.
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Well as Phil says above - I'd rather have a full stadium and get bums on seats. Get them sold cheap and get them in. Who knows, this season's floater or newbie can be next season's season ticket holder.
 
TangerineBayern said:
Sensible ticket prices should lure a few in but not all of the 3000 or so that rocked up yesterday.
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Thats not how big games work.

It's not 3k extra glory hunters.

It's a larger proportion of the fanbase coming together for those big games.

The majority of exiles attend, where usually you might get a third of them for each game.

People who usually work will book it off for this one, clearly they won't do that for all games.

People with limited money will choose the bigger games.

People who pick and choose games go to these ones.

Casuals too yes but its not right that it's all casuals.

So you'll never get the same crowds unless its a big or special game.

But of course we can grow the casual side, make it more attractive for people struggling with cash, if its cheaper exiles might take in a few more games etc. It's also more attractive for new fans.
 
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Macseasider said:
Well as Phil says above - I'd rather have a full stadium and get bums on seats. Get them sold cheap and get them in. Who knows, this season's floater or newbie can be next season's season ticket holder.
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We won't get a full stadium even at those prices we had tons of deals under your O's and never sold out and then the elephant in the room away fans have to be charged same amount.

Then there's the loss of interest by the fairweather fan after a crap performance like Wednesday night who will pay the 20 now and again so why not go for £25.

Surely it has to be revenue v attendance the important factor,grounds way bigger than us ain't desperate with cheap prices unless they have an alternative motive like the Nobbers up the road trying to sell the club and use deals now and again(3 allowed under EFL rules) like we are doing for the Luton home game charging £20 let's see how many that improves the gate.
 
Philbfctrois said:
I don't get the term casual fan, or floaters or whatever else season ticket holders call non season ticket holders

Even if someone can only get to one game a season they are still a fan

We need to stop being disrespectful to non season ticket holders and the club needs to do far more to increase our match day home support
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Exactly, there's many different legitimate circumstances.

For big games more of the fanbase attends.

We have to grow the new fans, make it as easy and affordable for all fans to attend and have space for them when they want to.
 
Hazi said:
13.5k is a large crowd, we are doing just fine in these hard up times. I have been on Bloomers with 1700 there.
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On? I take it you was playing in the game?

Or do you mean you’ve simply been to Bloomfield Road when there’s been 1700.
 
poolseasider said:
We won't get a full stadium even at those prices we had tons of deals under your O's and never sold out and then the elephant in the room away fans have to be charged same amount.

Then there's the loss of interest by the fairweather fan after a crap performance like Wednesday night who will pay the 20 now and again so why not go for £25.

Surely it has to be revenue v attendance the important factor,grounds way bigger than us ain't desperate with cheap prices unless they have an alternative motive like the Nobbers up the road trying to sell the club and use deals now and again(3 allowed under EFL rules) like we are doing for the Luton home game charging £20 let's see how many that improves the gate.
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As I've said before.

If they charge £20 they still might not fill the ground.

For £30 they definitely won't fill the ground.
 
Philbfctrois said:
I don't get the term casual fan, or floaters or whatever else season ticket holders call non season ticket holders

Even if someone can only get to one game a season they are still a fan

We need to stop being disrespectful to non season ticket holders and the club needs to do far more to increase our match day home support
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Couldn't agree more fill. Those that are arguing the toss about match day ticket prices seem to be season ticket holders that have an "I'm alright Jack" attitude.
 
The Club have developed excellent links with the local Junior football teams. The players go and meet the teams and chat & this is the perfect chance for the Club to grow their fanbase via freebies to convert more fans.

The atmosphere isn’t going to be like yesterday every game, but you can’t beat being at a match, taking everything in, kids love that and get the bug.
 
Philbfctrois said:
I don't get the term casual fan, or floaters or whatever else season ticket holders call non season ticket holders

Even if someone can only get to one game a season they are still a fan

We need to stop being disrespectful to non season ticket holders and the club needs to do far more to increase our match day home support
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I don’t know what to call them I just want them to turn up on a more regular basis.
 
Its nice to have bigger crowds, but a drop of £10 will not get that many more in if they are only half interested in football ,especially when the cold and wet weather arrives . Blackpool have done the right thing and reduced the price for an odd game when the crowd is likely to be low anyway.
 
Supporters who travel a long way to see matches are unlikely to see the ticket price, whether it be £20 or £30, as a major factor in deciding which games to attend. If someone travels from London or Scotland, then the money they spend getting to Blackpool is a bigger consideration.
 
Northstandsinger said:
I don’t know what to call them I just want them to turn up on a more regular basis.
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Ha ha i know mate, it wasn't really directed at you.

I agree with you i want the same thing, more home fans week in week out.

Not everyone can commit to having a season ticket, some folk work some don't work at all and we have thousands of exiled fans.

The issue is how the club gets more home fans in as having empty seats in such a relatively small stadium isn't good.

I live in North Wales and 3 of my kids all play football on Saturday mornings, every season i wrestle with the season ticket issue as it isn't an easy choice due to my other commitments. I can't make every match and i normally do buy season tickets, like i have for this season and the last 5 seasons of so.

But believe me my Saturdays are chaos

I'm fortunate as i can afford it, not every fan can

I was talking to Raggy on Wednesday after Hull and i got a bit emotional after what he was saying, i completely agree what we have now is fantastic, the atmosphere better than any time i can remember in my 40 years or so of watching Blackpool.

What you younger lot have created is brilliant 👏

I just wish we could sell out week in week out

The club does need to do more imo
 
"Floating fans" didnt do their part yesterday, now proper Blackpool fans have to miss out on Preston away because we attempted to prioritise them and they didnt step up.

I have never had this opinion until yesterday but we may as well give the Nobbers an extra block if it results in us getting 5k at their gaffe. Prioritising those who probably support United and Liverpool anyway, didnt work out yesterday.

The way you convert floating fans is by doing well, if we were on a promotion push the ground would be full every week. Clearly the biggest home game of the season isnt enough for some.
 
TangerinePeel said:
"Floating fans" didnt do their part yesterday, now proper Blackpool fans have to miss out on Preston away because we attempted to prioritise them and they didnt step up.

I have never had this opinion until yesterday but we may as well give the Nobbers an extra block if it results in us getting 5k at their gaffe. Prioritising those who probably support United and Liverpool anyway, didnt work out yesterday.

The way you convert floating fans is by doing well, if we were on a promotion push the ground would be full every week. Clearly the biggest home game of the season isnt enough for some.
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Bollux
There is no such thing as a floating fan

We won't get more at Preston as they have season ticket holders in that part of the ground

Oh and if you do enough away games you will be a 'proper fan' and get an away ticket

So all in all i haven't read such horse shite for a long time
 
Philbfctrois said:
Bollux
There is no such thing as a floating fan

We won't get more at Preston as they have season ticket holders in that part of the ground

Oh and if you do enough away games you will be a 'proper fan' and get an away ticket

So all in all i haven't read such horse shite for a long time
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The cold hard facts of the matter are that attendances improve with success, the floating fan types couldn't be arsed yesterday but if we drew United in the cup or were on the verge of the play-offs, Bloomfield Road would be sold out. "Floating fans" do exist, its why we're able to take 37k to Wembley when we average about 8 to 9k home fans.

I have always been of the opinion that if the demand is there, then the Nobbers can get fucked - that was the case last season, it wasn't the case this season. Going forward next season, if giving the Nobbers an extra 1k tickets means we'll get an extra 3k at their gaffe then that is better than having empty seats in the North part of the East like yesterday. If someone who supports United but has Blackpool as their 2nd team misses out on a ticket because of that I don't really care. Having Nobbers closer to the North would make the atmosphere even better than it has been, and the atmosphere at the last two Preston games has been immense.

I do more than enough away days and got a ticket last season, will certainly get a ticket for Preston away this season as well. That's not my concern, the day out is much better with 5k and gives us a better chance of winning at Deepdale.

If you follow this link to "posts made by Philbfctrois", there is plenty more horse shite to be read 😉:
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Philbfctrois

avftt.co.uk
 
TangerinePeel said:
The cold hard facts of the matter are that attendances improve with success, the floating fan types couldn't be arsed yesterday but if we drew United in the cup or were on the verge of the play-offs, Bloomfield Road would be sold out. "Floating fans" do exist, its why we're able to take 37k to Wembley when we average about 8 to 9k home fans.

I have always been of the opinion that if the demand is there, then the Nobbers can get fucked - that was the case last season, it wasn't the case this season. Going forward next season, if giving the Nobbers an extra 1k tickets means we'll get an extra 3k at their gaffe then that is better than having empty seats in the North part of the East like yesterday. If someone who supports United but has Blackpool as their 2nd team misses out on a ticket because of that I don't really care. Having Nobbers closer to the North would make the atmosphere even better than it has been, and the atmosphere at the last two Preston games has been immense.

I do more than enough away days and got a ticket last season, will certainly get a ticket for Preston away this season as well. That's not my concern, the day out is much better with 5k and gives us a better chance of winning at Deepdale.

If you follow this link to "posts made by Philbfctrois", there is plenty more horse shite to be read 😉:
avftt.co.uk

Philbfctrois

avftt.co.uk
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What part of Preston won't give us anymore don't you understand?
 
TangerinePeel said:
"Floating fans" didnt do their part yesterday, now proper Blackpool fans have to miss out on Preston away because we attempted to prioritise them and they didnt step up.

I have never had this opinion until yesterday but we may as well give the Nobbers an extra block if it results in us getting 5k at their gaffe. Prioritising those who probably support United and Liverpool anyway, didnt work out yesterday.

The way you convert floating fans is by doing well, if we were on a promotion push the ground would be full every week. Clearly the biggest home game of the season isnt enough for some.
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They won't give us anymore, they have more attending than last time and enjoyed the kop anyway so will do it again.

We aren't going to lock those 600 fans we had yesterday in the east out. It would have been much more in better times at a lesser price too.

So no one is missing anything from pne away, it was never on the table and last year all who went away regularly got them.
 
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