Could black boots be the answer?

td53

td53

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The last player I recall who wore black boots was Ryan Wintle. (he didn't only wear black ones but he definitely wore them sometimes)

We've basically been bobbins since we didn't replace him 18 months back.

Maybe it was his black boots, that just gave us a grounded quality and if we get the lads in and say...

"Look at you all thinking you're Alan Ball and you're really not y'know, you have to earn coloured boots from now on"

Get them on the bus to Tommy Balls. Get a job lot of black moulded Gola boots and I think we'll be rocketing up the table before you know it.
 
td53 said:
The last player I recall who wore black boots was Ryan Wintle. (he didn't only wear black ones but he definitely wore them sometimes)

We've basically been bobbins since we didn't replace him 18 months back.

Maybe it was his black boots, that just gave us a grounded quality and if we get the lads in and say...

"Look at you all thinking you're Alan Ball and you're really not y'know, you have to earn coloured boots from now on"

Get them on the bus to Tommy Balls. Get a job lot of black moulded Gola boots and I think we'll be rocketing up the table before you know it.
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No requirement to change the boots.

With a Scrooge owner in Sadler, inept coach in Critchley, and clueless players?

The future proves black, not tangerine.
 
td53 said:
The last player I recall who wore black boots was Ryan Wintle. (he didn't only wear black ones but he definitely wore them sometimes)

We've basically been bobbins since we didn't replace him 18 months back.

Maybe it was his black boots, that just gave us a grounded quality and if we get the lads in and say...

"Look at you all thinking you're Alan Ball and you're really not y'know, you have to earn coloured boots from now on"

Get them on the bus to Tommy Balls. Get a job lot of black moulded Gola boots and I think we'll be rocketing up the table before you know it.
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Make sure 'the lads' have an old football annual with them so they can point to Alan Ball.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
On that note - I hate the all black strip! Just saying.
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A metaphor for the club's attitude to fans.

The mushroom treatment.

Keep them in the dark and pour manure over them with poor coaches and players.

When its chiefs allow a meeting, vet the questions beforehand to avert critiques.
 
td53 said:
The last player I recall who wore black boots was Ryan Wintle. (he didn't only wear black ones but he definitely wore them sometimes)

We've basically been bobbins since we didn't replace him 18 months back.

Maybe it was his black boots, that just gave us a grounded quality and if we get the lads in and say...

"Look at you all thinking you're Alan Ball and you're really not y'know, you have to earn coloured boots from now on"

Get them on the bus to Tommy Balls. Get a job lot of black moulded Gola boots and I think we'll be rocketing up the table before you know it.
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Maybe even toe capped. These new boots are for fannies once winter kicks in & those leather caseys get stuck in the mud. And wrap the laces round & under the boots at least five times. Also supply elastic blood stopping garters to keep those stockings above the knee.
 
Willie Mcgrotty said:
Maybe even toe capped. These new boots are for fannies once winter kicks in & those leather caseys get stuck in the mud. And wrap the laces round & under the boots at least five times. Also supply elastic blood stopping garters to keep those stockings above the knee.
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All sound advice. 👍
 
It’s absolutely nothing to do with the boots colour…I have it on good authority that it’s the kit being too scratchy. A new fabric softener will make all the difference, provided the management are brave enough to make the switch?
 
Thepoolaregoingup said:
It’s absolutely nothing to do with the boots colour…I have it on good authority that it’s the kit being too scratchy. A new fabric softener will make all the difference, provided the management are brave enough to make the switch?
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Another good thing from the Oyston heyday was none of the players had to put up with scratchy cleaning materials and could choose their own. Golden years.
 
Thepoolaregoingup said:
It’s absolutely nothing to do with the boots colour…I have it on good authority that it’s the kit being too scratchy. A new fabric softener will make all the difference, provided the management are brave enough to make the switch?
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You can get a fabreze scented one I think. That's got to be a win for Critch...
 
Not fussed about the boots but we just don't look right in that black away kit.
Bring back the white tops with tangerine shorts pronto.
 
td53 said:
The last player I recall who wore black boots was Ryan Wintle. (he didn't only wear black ones but he definitely wore them sometimes)

We've basically been bobbins since we didn't replace him 18 months back.

Maybe it was his black boots, that just gave us a grounded quality and if we get the lads in and say...

"Look at you all thinking you're Alan Ball and you're really not y'know, you have to earn coloured boots from now on"

Get them on the bus to Tommy Balls. Get a job lot of black moulded Gola boots and I think we'll be rocketing up the table before you know it.
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If it isn't the answer then it bloody should be.

I am somewhat of a traditionalist in these matters. And IMHO the entire deterioration of not only Pools fortunes, but the state of the entire game can be traced directly back to the day someone decided that non black boots were the way forward.

It's the same with bowls now, made by the modern manufacturers of multiples of aby colour you want. Bloke at our club, Villa fan, has a marbled effect in claret and pale blue. Horrible looking things.

The only footballer to be exempted from these strictures should be Alan Hinton. Purely because he always was.
 
td53 said:
The last player I recall who wore black boots was Ryan Wintle. (he didn't only wear black ones but he definitely wore them sometimes)

We've basically been bobbins since we didn't replace him 18 months back.

Maybe it was his black boots, that just gave us a grounded quality and if we get the lads in and say...

"Look at you all thinking you're Alan Ball and you're really not y'know, you have to earn coloured boots from now on"

Get them on the bus to Tommy Balls. Get a job lot of black moulded Gola boots and I think we'll be rocketing up the table before you know it.
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Is it possible that Ryan Wintle was the last midfielder that was any good?
 
basilexile said:
I think I would take Ryan Wintle in turquoise boots, over anything we currently have.
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I think that's fairly much a universal viewpoint. Wintle was excellent. We never replaced him. That Jan window was a disaster, the two that followed were as well and here we are.

The margins are small. With hindsight, that caution in Jan 22 has cost us pretty dearly.
 
td53 said:
He really was. I remember doing the pod and just giving him '8' every single week cos he was so consistent. Just did his job. Every single time.
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Exactly, he’s what I like to call one of our ‘no bullsht’ players. Wish he actually was ours.

While we’re at it, let’s start another ‘Uncle Richard, please help and come back!’ threads.
 
Graves said:
Exactly, he’s what I like to call one of our ‘no bullsht’ players. Wish he actually was ours.

While we’re at it, let’s start another ‘Uncle Richard, please help and come back!’ threads.
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It actually makes me proper sad to think it's barely a year since we had...

Keough, Wintle, Jerry, Keshi, Madine, Yates, Bowler and (very briefly in the champ) Kev Stewart as well as Sterling on loan.

There's so much quality gone.
 
td53 said:
It actually makes me proper sad to think it's barely a year since we had...

Keough, Wintle, Jerry, Keshi, Madine, Yates, Bowler and (very briefly in the champ) Kev Stewart as well as Sterling on loan.

There's so much quality gone.
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I know Jerry Yates ran all over the shop, but I don't think we had 2 of him. Mind you at times it seemed like we did.
 
td53 said:
In Wigan we used to call them 'wishtywere' (wish they were')

"Me mams bought me ** wishtywere boots, ** well shamin that"
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For that performance they should all have to wear Winfield boots. The plastic ones.
 
basilexile said:
The team certainly does, yet some on here thought he was bang average.
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There's always someone with a different opinion.

Sometimes I look at the football knowledge of some posts and think 'have you ever watched us?' but then, I'm sure some people think I'm mental in the same way. I'm the only person on earth I think who wouldn't have sacked Appleton as one example.

We miss Jerry in two ways. One he had swagger and attitude allied to his work rate. Swagger alone is annoying. Add it to incredible work rate and it's a brilliant combination. Dale could have that kind of vibe if he'd be willing to run forever. I'm not sure he's quite willing to go to the lengths though. (Not saying he's lazy, just that Jerry was 'talented' but not beyond a lot of players - but he had the extra 15% effort that made that talent have impact over and above others)

Second is that he could both set a tempo and score his own goals. I don't see anyone doing either at the moment. Jerry was never a captain type, but subtly, he was a leader.
 
td53 said:
There's always someone with a different opinion.

Sometimes I look at the football knowledge of some posts and think 'have you ever watched us?' but then, I'm sure some people think I'm mental in the same way. I'm the only person on earth I think who wouldn't have sacked Appleton as one example.

We miss Jerry in two ways. One he had swagger and attitude allied to his work rate. Swagger alone is annoying. Add it to incredible work rate and it's a brilliant combination. Dale could have that kind of vibe if he'd be willing to run forever. I'm not sure he's quite willing to go to the lengths though. (Not saying he's lazy, just that Jerry was 'talented' but not beyond a lot of players - but he had the extra 15% effort that made that talent have impact over and above others)

Second is that he could both set a tempo and score his own goals. I don't see anyone doing either at the moment. Jerry was never a captain type, but subtly, he was a leader.
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Not completely alone on Appleton. Having finally signed 2 wingers to allow him to play 433, he should have been given the chance. Especially if Dino Mick was the only other alternative.
 
basilexile said:
Not completely alone on Appleton. Having finally signed 2 wingers to allow him to play 433, he should have been given the chance. Especially if Dino Mick was the only other alternative.
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Exactly. He also wouldn't have wasted Fiorini returning to fitness or played Bowler central midfield. I think we'd have stayed up. Not by a lot but we would because he would have used the quality better than Mick who basically might as well have just taken a bat to any of our skillful players legs as the result would have been the same as his tactics.

But we'll never know and that's that I suppose.
 
td53 said:
There's always someone with a different opinion.

Sometimes I look at the football knowledge of some posts and think 'have you ever watched us?' but then, I'm sure some people think I'm mental in the same way. I'm the only person on earth I think who wouldn't have sacked Appleton as one example.

We miss Jerry in two ways. One he had swagger and attitude allied to his work rate. Swagger alone is annoying. Add it to incredible work rate and it's a brilliant combination. Dale could have that kind of vibe if he'd be willing to run forever. I'm not sure he's quite willing to go to the lengths though. (Not saying he's lazy, just that Jerry was 'talented' but not beyond a lot of players - but he had the extra 15% effort that made that talent have impact over and above others)

Second is that he could both set a tempo and score his own goals. I don't see anyone doing either at the moment. Jerry was never a captain type, but subtly, he was a leader.
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Yep. One Alex Ferguson quote that always stuck with me was ‘hard work is a talent’.
 
Graves said:
Yeah I saw that. Didn’t see the foul but Wednesday fans must have been gutted to lose that point.

Wintle just always seemed to go about his business well for us.
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He wasn't amazing at anything, but he could do everything well if that makes sense and that was his strength. A real true 'midfielder'
 
Surely the George Best ‘Stylo Matchmakers’ sidelace boots are what’s needed?

If only my parents hadn’t fobbed me off with the Timpsons ‘Shooting Stars’ knock-off, I’m sure I could’ve saved us many years of lower division misery! 😉

Mystery solved! Get CJ out of the Timpsons budget boots & into some GB Stylos! 👍
 
I very much hope I'm not alone on this, but I would love to hear from anyone else out there who detects what can only be described as a quiet air of desparation in many of the posts to be found on this thread. I appreciate there is a strong element of black humour (nevermind black boots!) contained in the messages people have sent, but in the search for answers to our current malaise, I get a real sense of how there are a fair few fans out there who are starting to clutch at straws, judging by their suggestions for how this downward spiral can be reversed.

In the weeks and months ahead we will need to see major changes being made in a host of areas if we are to see a significant upturn in our fortunes. The power to initiate and then implement these much-needed changes rests in the hands of a select group of individuals. It can only be hoped they are able to view the whole of the picture before them, separate out those areas in most urgent need of attention, and then channel the resources they have at their disposal accordingly.
 
I remember back in the 90s/early 2000s you knew a player was shit hot if he wore anything other than black boots. It's really been watered down to the point where it means nothing, in the 90s only a player like Di Canio or Bernite Carbone or Paul Dalglish would dare slap on a pair of white boots, cause they knew that you can't wear white boots and not waltz past defenders like they're cardboard cut-outs.
 
Stan Matthews wore boots made specially for him (allegedly) by the Co-op in Blackpool.
Another BFC legend Alan Ball was the first player to wear white boots in 1970 as part of a marketing ploy by Hummel although by then he was playing for Everton.
 
td53 said:
In Wigan we used to call them 'wishtywere' (wish they were')

"Me mams bought me ** wishtywere boots, ** well shamin that"
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I had the 'Adidosser' shellsuit. I had been wearing it 3 months before I realised it wasn't a real one. Heartbreaking
 
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