Critchley Talking Shite.

[ElBurroSinNombre]

A realistic one.

We are unbeaten, would you prefer a manager who loses more often?
Critchley won't read this board, but what you are doing that is corrosive is playing a part in helping the weak minded to form a lynch mob where Critchley will be forced out.
Of course managers lie in press conferences. They have one face for the public and another face behind the scenes. Do you really think that he needs fans to point out the weaknesses in our team?

 

[TangerinePeel]

Thought he was refreshingly honest after the Burton game about the 2nd half being poor. Maybe he feels he can be after a win but he doesn't want to diminish confidence levels after poor performances where we don't manage the win.

Probably wishful thinking considering his previous reign, he has a track recorded of not addressing poor performances. The game at Deepdale springs to mind, how he defended that performance was beyond me.

 

[Henshman]

Disappointed with result not the performance!!!
FFS quality analysis Neil

Our performance was the worst aspect of the match. Take the first half of the Burton Albion out of the equation, and for the other five halves of our league season, we were lucky not to lose them.
We definitely need a striker to partner Lavery because he can't do the job on his own.
UTMP

 

[Beachcomber]

This thread is just embarrassing, a bunch of children throwing their toys out of the pram.

Best fans in the league my arse.

In terms of passion and commitment, I think our fans are as good as any you care to name. However, it would seem that they’re growing weary of the conveyor belt of poor decision making by the owner, who is obviously doing himself a disservice in the process. As regards the guru himself, surely anyone who picked Hamilton, game after game, would have to be seen as more Bill Maynard than Bill Shankly?

 

[Lytham_fy8]

In terms of passion and commitment, I think our fans are as good as any you care to name. However, it would seem that they’re growing weary of the conveyor belt of poor decision making by the owner, who is obviously doing himself a disservice in the process. As regards the guru himself, surely anyone who picked Hamilton, game after game, would have to be seen as more Bill Maynard than Bill Shankly?

So it deserves booing, at half time, at nil nil?

 

[Lytham_fy8]

You pay your money and if you are not happy with the product you can boo as much as you like.
It's not for me but I won't knock anyone who boos with some justification.
It must have touched a nerve for him to come out and basically lie through his back teeth.
So a message was sent and he will most likely have a think a little bit about his tactics and team selections.
If you do nothing we will get fed the same shite we saw the other night because he would have the impression everything was fine by us.

This is, with respect, bollocks. You're trying to justify booing a team at half time.

It's a hangover from how Critchley left us, everyone know this.

 

[Wizaard]

Depends on the type of defeat, the issue the other day that annoyed people was the lack of looking even like a side that remotely knew what it was doing, was unable to fashion a decent chance.

Not condoning some going ott but clearly there's a way people accept your side playing or even losing.

Ekpiteta inching forward and continually passing to the opposition and then us hoofing it long, despite no tall players there to get it, is not going to get fans onside, it was aimless and lazy.

The team need to stop taking the easy option and learn to play football through teams.

Critchley is lauded for his tactical masterclasses he can do, but as soon as we've been pressed like in the Exeter and Vale games, we have given up on passing for large parts of it, that's not good enough as we're just gifting the ball back to the opposition hoofing it all the times.

Maybe that's not what Critchley wants us to do, but it's up to him to get us to be able to pass through sides, I don't imagine Bolton have such an issue and give up from a bit of pressing.

OK 2nd half was much improved, but there's loads to get better at.

Yet I was surrounded by fans incensed at players trying to keep the ball, insisting they 'Get it forward', then equally incensed when they knocked it long and lost possession.

No patience or any idea of what the team was trying to do. I disagree profoundly with you when you say they were a team without a clue of what they were doing.

Compared to last season there is so much more structure. What we did lack was tempo. Against Burton, we were zipping the passes to men moving in space. That wasn't apparent in the first half in particular but better in the second.

 

[Jaffa_The_Hut]

As Phil said on another thread during his time away from Bloomfield road Critchley has learnt absolutely nothing in fact he’s gone backwards after being potted at QPR.

I don’t like the bloke it’s no secret and the fact he’s back here I’ll never understand why but I’d support him a little more if he changed things around from time to time instead of the same old boring stuff we’re seeing right now.

Critchley clearly has his favourite players who no matter what they do on the field will always be in the team for the next game yet players who should be playing are either bench warming or not even in the squad.

And for all this we haven’t conceded a goal yet stuff just ask the Nobbers what they thought of it last season first 8/10 games without conceding a goal and they’ll tell you it was as boring as hell to watch half of them were falling asleep.

If some fans are happy to watch that style of play then all well and good but some fans aren’t it’s the performance at the end of the day and if we lose an odd game by attacking entertaining football then so be it but he needs to change things around when it’s not going right and he’s the sort of manager that won’t do it it’s his way or nothing.

It’s going to be a very long season watching this style of football as league one teams will look at us as one of the bigger better sides having just come down from the championship and yes teams are going to pack defences and put 10 men behind the ball in games at Bloomfield road but sticking with the same old hoofball to Lavery simply isn’t going to work and Critchley needs a plan B which he doesn’t have.

 

[Wizaard]

As Phil said on another thread during his time away from Bloomfield road Critchley has learnt absolutely nothing in fact he’s gone backwards after being potted at QPR.

I don’t like the bloke it’s no secret and the fact he’s back here I’ll never understand why but I’d support him a little more if he changed things around from time to time instead of the same old boring stuff we’re seeing right now.

Critchley clearly has his favourite players who no matter what they do on the field will always be in the team for the next game yet players who should be playing are either bench warming or not even in the squad.

And for all this we haven’t conceded a goal yet stuff just ask the Nobbers what they thought of it last season first 8/10 games without conceding a goal and they’ll tell you it was as boring as hell to watch half of them were falling asleep.

If some fans are happy to watch that style of play then all well and good but some fans aren’t it’s the performance at the end of the day and if we lose an odd game by attacking entertaining football then so be it but he needs to change things around when it’s not going right and he’s the sort of manager that won’t do it it’s his way or nothing.

It’s going to be a very long season watching this style of football as league one teams will look at us as one of the bigger better sides having just come down from the championship and yes teams are going to pack defences and put 10 men behind the ball in games at Bloomfield road but sticking with the same old hoofball to Lavery simply isn’t going to work and Critchley needs a plan B which he doesn’t have.

So you don't think there's any leeway to be given to take account that we're actively looking for forwards, so Critchley knows there's an issue?

History tells us that successful teams are based on a solid defence that then get better at creating and taking opportunities. We are past masters at it.

One slow game and the knives are out. It's childish and entitled.

 

[JJpool]

Yet I was surrounded by fans incensed at players trying to keep the ball, insisting they 'Get it forward', then equally incensed when they knocked it long and lost possession.

No patience or any idea of what the team was trying to do. I disagree profoundly with you when you say they were a team without a clue of what they were doing.

Compared to last season there is so much more structure. What we did lack was tempo. Against Burton, we were zipping the passes to men moving in space. That wasn't apparent in the first half in particular but better in the second.

Obviously idiots who criticise either way.

I don't have a problem trying to pass out and keep the ball, infact it's vastly preferred.

It increases the likelihood of us not conceding and then doing something with it ourselves the longer we have the ball and the better we are one it.

You have to mix it up occasionally with some diagonals, or precise chipped balls to beat the press if you've suitably lured them forwards, but have to have someone who can both pick the pass and keep it.

The issue I have it with how were trying to pass out, clearly Marv isn't very capable of it and the way we've, at times, abandoned the passing style after a bit of pressure.

For me if you've got a style you stick at it, that's how you improve and look at Burnley for e.g. they made a few mistakes passing out but didn't abandon it and you can reap the rewards.

The first half they had no idea what they were doing at times, it was aimless, couldn't pass it out so forced to go long which obviously didn't suit.

 

[Jaffa_The_Hut]

So you don't think there's any leeway to be given to take account that we're actively looking for forwards, so Critchley knows there's an issue?

History tells us that successful teams are based on a solid defence that then get better at creating and taking opportunities. We are past masters at it.

One slow game and the knives are out. It's childish and entitled.

One slow game?

The game at Exeter was hardly a classic and the second half against Burton granted we had a great first half but what changed it?

I do hope you’re right on the striker front because packing 6 players in midfield just isn’t going to work unless everyone’s happy with 0-0 draws.

 

[Wizaard]

Obviously idiots who criticise either way.

I don't have a problem trying to pass out and keep the ball, infact it's vastly preferred.

It increases the likelihood of us not conceding and then doing something with it ourselves the longer we have the ball and the better we are one it.

You have to mix it up occasionally with some diagonals, or precise chipped balls to beat the press if you've suitably lured them forwards, but have to have someone who can both pick the pass and keep it.

The issue I have it with how were trying to pass out, clearly Marv isn't very capable of it and the way we've, at times, abandoned the passing style after a bit of pressure.

For me if you've got a style you stick at it, that's how you improve and look at Burnley for e.g. they made a few mistakes passing out but didn't abandon it and you can reap the rewards.

The first half they had no idea what they were doing at times, it was aimless, couldn't pass it out so forced to go long which obviously didn't suit.

Don't disagree that giving the ball to Marv then not having anyone show for him is fraught with danger.

 

[JJpool]

Don't disagree that giving the ball to Marv then not having anyone show for him is fraught with danger.

The issue is with him central is that'll always have to happen. Maybe he can be shifted into a different position, but if not then you have the dilemma. He's great defensively but often very bad on the ball.

Of course the team needs to move for him too.

We're not asking him to spray it around like Beckham, only to find a team mate often a matter of yards away, he should as a professional player be able to do it.

 

[Simonized]

We are unbeaten, would you prefer a manager who loses more often?
Critchley won't read this board, but what you are doing that is corrosive is playing a part in helping the weak minded to form a lynch mob where Critchley will be forced out.
Of course managers lie in press conferences. They have one face for the public and another face behind the scenes. Do you really think that he needs fans to point out the weaknesses in our team?

This is, with respect, bollocks. You're trying to justify booing a team at half time.

It's a hangover from how Critchley left us, everyone know this.

I didn't and don't boo and if you pay for a product and it's substandard then people can show their dissatisfaction how they like.

What next a booing app?
Get off your high horse or do we live in a Communist state now where you toe the line or else?
Each to their own but if you want to preach go elsewhere as I couldn't care less what others choose to do with their dissatisfaction.

 

[The Catcher in the Rye]

Big game on Saturday, home to another unfancied team. If we win it will be 8/12 points and unbeaten, so not a bad start to the season, a draw will be 6/12 points, unbeaten but that’s against 4 unfancied teams so not really good enough. A defeat is unthinkable!

 

[1966_and_all_that]

The issue is with him central is that'll always have to happen. Maybe he can be shifted into a different position, but if not then you have the dilemma. He's great defensively but often very bad on the ball.

Of course the team needs to move for him too.

We're not asking him to spray it around like Beckham, only to find a team mate often a matter of yards away, he should as a professional player be able to do it.

He does find a team mate only a matter of yards away. The trouble is that they just give it back to him. That is then repeated a few times. Progress during that period of play? None.

 

[CAGU]

He does find a team mate only a matter of yards away. The trouble is that they just give it back to him. That is then repeated a few times. Progress during that period of play? None.

He ambles out at snail’s pace which is so annoying. I’m sure with a bit more effort he could spring past one or two and open the opposition up. He looks very lethargic in possession.
Still a great defensive player though and his tackle and blocks have saved us many times

 

[tarantula]

Critchley was poor towards the end of his time here the first time before he ran away.

He was then a disaster at QPR!

Why doesn anyone think he's miraculously going to become a good manager all of a sudden?

Because it's been rumoured a certain C. Calderwood has been spotted in a gym somewhere limbering up and flexing his muscles ... Make of that what you will. And spare me the refrain: "Cobblers".

 

[tarantula]

In terms of passion and commitment, I think our fans are as good as any you care to name. However, it would seem that they’re growing weary of the conveyor belt of poor decision making by the owner, who is obviously doing himself a disservice in the process. As regards the guru himself, surely anyone who picked Hamilton, game after game, would have to be seen as more Bill Maynard than Bill Shankly?

... Or more Rev Ian Paisley than Bob Paisley?

 

[tarantula]

Doesn't matter who manages us, we have a section of supporters who don't give anyone a chance.

I think you'll find every club has its resident 'anti brigade'.