Critchley??

LimerickTangerine

LimerickTangerine

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Just wondering

Did he apply for the Blackpool vacancy or did the club contact him??

Either way we really landed on our feet with his appointment 🍊🍊
 
Agreed, but think we should be prepared for approaches from other, supposed "bigger" clubs, sooner rather later, were we to continue progressing in this manner.
They'll be monitoring him now, I imagine
 
He has everything he needs here at the moment, no need to move. A great, supportive owner, a chief exec who knows how to run a club, adored by fans and players who play for him, whoever wears the shirt. One day he may move on to another club but for now and the foreseeable, he would be mad to change and I suspect he would tell you the same.
 
It is naive to think he has all he needs. He does have a very good situation but he is clearly ambitious and relatively late to his first management role so if a bigger club comes calling the threat will be very real. The biggest concern Pool have. Players are replaced far easier.
 
Dougz said:
He has everything he needs here at the moment, no need to move. A great, supportive owner, a chief exec who knows how to run a club, adored by fans and players who play for him, whoever wears the shirt. One day he may move on to another club but for now and the foreseeable, he would be mad to change and I suspect he would tell you the same.
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Money talks no matter who it is.
 
LimerickTangerine said:
Just wondering

Did he apply for the Blackpool vacancy or did the club contact him??

Either way we really landed on our feet with his appointment 🍊🍊
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LT: It was reported that NC was recommended by Steven Gerrard - what a good recommendation that was 😍
NC is young & talented. With continued development and success, he's undoubtedly destined for the top of football, so we must make the most of our time with him.
 
Sweeper said:
It is naive to think he has all he needs. He does have a very good situation but he is clearly ambitious and relatively late to his first management role so if a bigger club comes calling the threat will be very real. The biggest concern Pool have. Players are replaced far easier.
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Which club realistically looking at him would give him more? More money maybe but more expectation comes with that. I highly doubt he would jump to another Championship club, what would be the point? He's not a jobbing manager, never has been, the club would have worked very hard to get him out of Liverpool and they've backed him to the hilt, look at the assistants we've brought in, Calderwood and McCall are hugely experienced managers that would have been decent shouts for the main job after Grayson.

Don't forget he's also got the opportunity here to model a coaching set up and new training ground, which is his bread and butter, I imagine the board will do what Critch wants when it comes to the new place, he's not getting that anywhere else.

He also just gets it here, the same as Billy did and Holloway before working for the Oystons dragged him down. Sometimes a coach and club are a perfect fit.
 
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No Big Premier League club is coming in for Critch as they can’t justify it their fans.
No struggling Premier League club is taking a chance on a coach with zero experience when they need instant results.

A Big Championship club (Norwich, West Brom, Forest etc) want instant results. That’s not what Critch is about. He develops players, builds squads etc.

The only place Critch goes is to a long term project. I’d be worried about a ‘bigger’ club that needs a long term reset. Sheffield Wednesday, Sunderland maybe even Charlton.

But those clubs need to offer him something he’s not getting here and would also have to offer him 2/3 years to build his project and start afresh. Do clubs like that have the patience ? Probably not.

I’d be more worried about losing Critch to the FA (England U21 role would be perfect for him) or to another massive academy - but it would take a top top club to that (Barca, Real, Manchester United, Man City etc) as he left a pretty huge job at Liverpool in the first place and he’s absolutely thriving.

I honestly can’t see him going until his project here is finished and that’s a self sustaining academy, world class development / training facility, a brand of football and culture moulded in his image and ultimately ‘his’ players moving on to top clubs.

Critch is building a legacy. I’m certain.
 
I hope he has the foresight to see there's nowhere else he would possibly get the level of support from the owners, the players and fans, with next to no expectations or wild pressure or abuse. I'm confident he has.

I mean just look at him in the changing room at Wembley after winning, and the Klopp-like celebration with the crowd yesterday. Fantastic stuff

Contracts don't mean much these days, if he wanted to leave for a better offer he could, whether under a contract or not, but an improved and extended contract would be suitable reward for what he's done and is doing.
However long it lasts, he'll be remembered fondly forever 🧡
 
LA1 Seasider said:
No Big Premier League club is coming in for Critch as they can’t justify it their fans.
No struggling Premier League club is taking a chance on a coach with zero experience when they need instant results.

A Big Championship club (Norwich, West Brom, Forest etc) want instant results. That’s not what Critch is about. He develops players, builds squads etc.

The only place Critch goes is to a long term project. I’d be worried about a ‘bigger’ club that needs a long term reset. Sheffield Wednesday, Sunderland maybe even Charlton.

But those clubs need to offer him something he’s not getting here and would also have to offer him 2/3 years to build his project and start afresh. Do clubs like that have the patience ? Probably not.

I’d be more worried about losing Critch to the FA (England U21 role would be perfect for him) or to another massive academy - but it would take a top top club to that (Barca, Real, Manchester United, Man City etc) as he left a pretty huge job at Liverpool in the first place and he’s absolutely thriving.

I honestly can’t see him going until his project here is finished and that’s a self sustaining academy, world class development / training facility, a brand of football and culture moulded in his image and ultimately ‘his’ players moving on to top clubs.

Critch is building a legacy. I’m certain.
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Can see the likes of Everton looking at him if they become managerless

Wouldn’t be the first time the take a West Lancashire clubs manager who just got them promoted to the Championship
 
LA1 Seasider said:
No Big Premier League club is coming in for Critch as they can’t justify it their fans.
No struggling Premier League club is taking a chance on a coach with zero experience when they need instant results.

A Big Championship club (Norwich, West Brom, Forest etc) want instant results. That’s not what Critch is about. He develops players, builds squads etc.

The only place Critch goes is to a long term project. I’d be worried about a ‘bigger’ club that needs a long term reset. Sheffield Wednesday, Sunderland maybe even Charlton.

But those clubs need to offer him something he’s not getting here and would also have to offer him 2/3 years to build his project and start afresh. Do clubs like that have the patience ? Probably not.

I’d be more worried about losing Critch to the FA (England U21 role would be perfect for him) or to another massive academy - but it would take a top top club to that (Barca, Real, Manchester United, Man City etc) as he left a pretty huge job at Liverpool in the first place and he’s absolutely thriving.

I honestly can’t see him going until his project here is finished and that’s a self sustaining academy, world class development / training facility, a brand of football and culture moulded in his image and ultimately ‘his’ players moving on to top clubs.

Critch is building a legacy. I’m certain.
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I don't think he'd go to an academy, like you say he's already left one of the biggest academy jobs in the world.
 
LA1 Seasider said:
No Big Premier League club is coming in for Critch as they can’t justify it their fans.
No struggling Premier League club is taking a chance on a coach with zero experience when they need instant results.

A Big Championship club (Norwich, West Brom, Forest etc) want instant results. That’s not what Critch is about. He develops players, builds squads etc.

The only place Critch goes is to a long term project. I’d be worried about a ‘bigger’ club that needs a long term reset. Sheffield Wednesday, Sunderland maybe even Charlton.

But those clubs need to offer him something he’s not getting here and would also have to offer him 2/3 years to build his project and start afresh. Do clubs like that have the patience ? Probably not.

I’d be more worried about losing Critch to the FA (England U21 role would be perfect for him) or to another massive academy - but it would take a top top club to that (Barca, Real, Manchester United, Man City etc) as he left a pretty huge job at Liverpool in the first place and he’s absolutely thriving.

I honestly can’t see him going until his project here is finished and that’s a self sustaining academy, world class development / training facility, a brand of football and culture moulded in his image and ultimately ‘his’ players moving on to top clubs.

Critch is building a legacy. I’m certain.
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I think that pretty much nails it imo.
 
I'm as big a fan of Critchley as anyone but people who believe in loyalty in football are mad and naive.

LA1 Seasider said:
No Big Premier League club is coming in for Critch as they can’t justify it their fans.
No struggling Premier League club is taking a chance on a coach
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And what about the other options? You don't think he'd be interested in the Brentford job, for example? Or the Villa one?
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Which club realistically looking at him would give him more? More money maybe but more expectation comes with that. I highly doubt he would jump to another Championship club, what would be the point? He's not a jobbing manager, never has been, the club would have worked very hard to get him out of Liverpool and they've backed him to the hilt, look at the assistants we've brought in, Calderwood and McCall are hugely experienced managers that would have been decent shouts for the main job after Grayson.

Don't forget he's also got the opportunity here to model a coaching set up and new training ground, which is his bread and butter, I imagine the board will do what Critch wants when it comes to the new place, he's not getting that anywhere else.

He also just gets it here, the same as Billy did and Holloway before working for the Oystons dragged him down. Sometimes a coach and club are a perfect fit.
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Agreed 100%, he might get better offers, but to Critch, the real benefit at Blackpool that he won't be able to get anywhere else is that he is truly building something special here that has never been done before; reviving and building a club *almost* from the ground up through the creation of a new academy, training ground and stadium is something I think is incredibly enticing for him.

He talks all the time about how he left Liverpool to build something special here and no other club is going to be able to offer him that but us.
 
Tango1953 said:
I'm as big a fan of Critchley as anyone but people who believe in loyalty in football are mad and naive.




And what about the other options? You don't think he'd be interested in the Brentford job, for example? Or the Villa one?
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There’s got to be a vacancy… does that look likely ?
 
I don't think Commander Critch is the kind of character to jump ship any time soon. Look at his track record, he stayed within the Liverpool coaching setup for a long time when he could have been applying for lots of jobs with his CV.
For him to leave Liverpool, it had to be a very attractive proposition. Luckily, we approached him and it just so happened to be a perfect fit for both parties, our football strategy and his skill set of identifying and nurturing rough diamonds to polish up.
You can see he is loving it at Blackpool and he is already held in such high regard that he has banked a huge amount of goodwill with the fans and the owner. Why risk all of this for another job offering perhaps more short-term money but none of the other attractions that we offer him? Also, he knows full well that if he moved to a 'bigger' club, he could easily be out of work in three months!
I suspect SSS (Sir Simon Sadler) and management team will be very clever and creative with the type of contract that they come up with to secure Critch's services. For example, a contract whereby he gets big performance related bonuses and also a cut of any profits from player development sales. When you factor things like this into the equation alongside the job security he has at Blackpool, he may well also be better off financially than most Championship managers and possibly some EPL ones. It's early days but we could be looking at the early days of Blackpool's version of Brian Clough, in terms of the impact he may have on the club. 🙏
 
Brett scores for fun said:
LT: It was reported that NC was recommended by Steven Gerrard - what a good recommendation that was 😍
NC is young & talented. With continued development and success, he's undoubtedly destined for the top of football, so we must make the most of our time with him.
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I posted this some time ago, although others might have posted the same. It's something I was told by an impeccable source and is proper "inside" information on this occasion.
 
Tango1953 said:
Between now and the end of the season? Yeah, there will be.

Now, do you think Critchley would be interested in any of the jobs mentioned?
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It’s not a case of him being interested. It’s a case of them being interested in him and for a club to be interested in another manager there is a vacancy or they’re in the crap already. Any Premier League club facing the drop will turn to a tried and trusted PL, foreign or ‘name’ to save them - not a coach at little Blackpool. And even if they do turn to Critch why would he leave a Blackpool who he has going really well (which he must be doing in order to get the attention) to join a club which could well be in the same division or below 6 months later ? Why would anyone leave comfort, job security and the safety of a job where you’re loved and supported for 6 turbulent months with a pay rise but the high chance you’re unemployed within a couple of miserable months.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Which club realistically looking at him would give him more? More money maybe but more expectation comes with that. I highly doubt he would jump to another Championship club, what would be the point? He's not a jobbing manager, never has been, the club would have worked very hard to get him out of Liverpool and they've backed him to the hilt, look at the assistants we've brought in, Calderwood and McCall are hugely experienced managers that would have been decent shouts for the main job after Grayson.

Don't forget he's also got the opportunity here to model a coaching set up and new training ground, which is his bread and butter, I imagine the board will do what Critch wants when it comes to the new place, he's not getting that anywhere else.

He also just gets it here, the same as Billy did and Holloway before working for the Oystons dragged him down. Sometimes a coach and club are a perfect fit.
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l had a similar debate with friends in the pub this afternoon. Why would the Critch go anywhere when he’s got the perfect job here developing younger players in a potential state of the art training complex?
 
The way Critchley is managing Blackpool reminds me of the start of the Sean Dyche era at Burnley . Dyche was backed by a great set of directors and was given free reign to manage the club . His achievements have been nothing less than amazing . Burnley’s average crowd this season under 17, 000 , but he’s pulling in a £100 million a season keeping them in the Premier League

They’ve done well to hold onto him , but the irony is , no one wants him ! His style of play , his demeanour and the fact that he’s English means he hasn’t a chance of a job with another Premier League club . Even clubs like Watford , Palace and Wolves don’t give him a second thought when a vacancy comes up . As a Rovers fan I’d volunteer to drive him to any interview he’s offered !

As someone has already mentioned it’s teams like Sunderland, Ipswich , Derby , Nottingham Forest that are more likely to be interested in Critchley. Your club needs to back him in the way Burnley have with Dyche
 
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LA1 Seasider said:
No Big Premier League club is coming in for Critch as they can’t justify it their fans.
No struggling Premier League club is taking a chance on a coach with zero experience when they need instant results.

A Big Championship club (Norwich, West Brom, Forest etc) want instant results. That’s not what Critch is about. He develops players, builds squads etc.

The only place Critch goes is to a long term project. I’d be worried about a ‘bigger’ club that needs a long term reset. Sheffield Wednesday, Sunderland maybe even Charlton.

But those clubs need to offer him something he’s not getting here and would also have to offer him 2/3 years to build his project and start afresh. Do clubs like that have the patience ? Probably not.

I’d be more worried about losing Critch to the FA (England U21 role would be perfect for him) or to another massive academy - but it would take a top top club to that (Barca, Real, Manchester United, Man City etc) as he left a pretty huge job at Liverpool in the first place and he’s absolutely thriving.

I honestly can’t see him going until his project here is finished and that’s a self sustaining academy, world class development / training facility, a brand of football and culture moulded in his image and ultimately ‘his’ players moving on to top clubs.

Critch is building a legacy. I’m certai
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dodgy_surname said:
He’s not ** gay🥸
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Dodgy, dodgy
 
Tango1953 said:
@Atletico_Seasider , I hope you are right, but I think you are naive to expect it.
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I think with 99.9% of managers I would definitely agree with you T1953. But I think we have someone who is far from your normal kind of manager. There are not many of them around and when you also consider our unique circumstances, owner, working conditions, training ground project etc I've just got a sneaking suspicion that Critch is with us at least for the medium term (3-5 years)...
 
FamousBlueandWhiteHalves said:
The way Critchley is managing Blackpool reminds me of the start of the Sean Dyche era at Burnley . Dyche was backed by a great set of directors and was given free reign to manage the club . His achievements have been nothing less than amazing . Burnley’s average crowd this season under 17, 000 , but he’s pulling in a £100 million a season keeping them in the Premier League

They’ve done well to hold onto him , but the irony is , no one wants him ! His style of play , his demeanour and the fact that he’s English means he hasn’t a chance of a job with another Premier League club . Even clubs like Watford , Palace and Wolves don’t give him a second thought when a vacancy comes up . As a Rovers fan I’d volunteer to drive him to any interview he’s offered !

As someone has already mentioned it’s teams like Sunderland, Ipswich , Derby , Nottingham Forest that are more likely to be interested in Critchley. Your club needs to back him in the way Burnley have with Dyche
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Agree 100%. Need to extend his contract now.
 
Johnno said:
Not sure I’d agree. I know we have other people involved in recruitment, but having any manager/head coach gettting a percentage of selling profits is a conflict of interest IMO.
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Get what you’re saying Johnno and l agree it may not be ethical but it’s what happens in football and l believe Holloway profited from the sale of Adam and possibly others
 
seasideone said:
Why?
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While fully understanding that we need to have a business model of buying up and coming players, improving them, then selling for profit, I’d like to think a manager/head coach would be arguing to keep his best players in the main.
Giving him a share of the sell-on profits opens the door for a manager to actively look to get rid of players.
Not saying Critch would do it, and as I mentioned, we have other people involved to provide checks, I just don’t believe it should be a thing.
 
I hope he does the smart thing and stays here a bit longer, going at the first sign of interest when a bigger club comes calling can result in disaster.

Lampard for example had a decent Championship season with Derby, took the Chelsea job and is now unemployed due to being sacked and probably doesn't have that much of a CV to back himself up with now. Critchley will be able to establish himself here and move on when the time is right if he has taken us as far as he can

Ideally we'll be challenging for Europe in a few seasons and there will be no need to move on 😊
 
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