December 2nd
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Poultongirl
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You, me and millions of others. If they don’t keep to the 2nd of December then I fear for many peoples mental health plus i also think people will resort to serious disorder. Most people have quite simply had enough!!!!
I see wee jimmy north of the border is going backwards ffs
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basilrobbie
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Sorry to be pessimistic, but they are already preparing the ground for this being extended, and to be honest I think that there is some logic in taking it through to the schools breaking up for Christmas anyway.
Anyone who resorts to violence just because they've been asked to stop in is a bit feeble, if you ask me.
Anyone who resorts to violence just because they've been asked to stop in is a bit feeble, if you ask me.
Getting used to it now, if you break a habit or routine for long enough then there is a good chance that people won't just pick up where they were before. I'd often go to the the pub for a few pre prandial drinks in the afternoon but now that the winter weather is here and i haven't been for weeks it might not be such a regular thing.
Unfortunately for many, I expect the lockdown to be continued but with a few minor changes to try to assuage his troublesome back benchers in some way - a tier 4 (or 3+) has been mooted lately.
Johnson is under pressure from all sides on this one, and it is a dilemma which would tax even a first rate politician.
By nature it goes against Johnson`s liberal and populist instincts, but extending the lockdown is probably the right thing to do.
It is what it is and we have to do what needs to be done...
Johnson is under pressure from all sides on this one, and it is a dilemma which would tax even a first rate politician.
By nature it goes against Johnson`s liberal and populist instincts, but extending the lockdown is probably the right thing to do.
It is what it is and we have to do what needs to be done...
Dark_Side_of_the_Lune
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Looks to me like I won’t get to see my four lads over cmas at all as they all live elsewhere. Fuckin fuming at the embedded incompetence of all those responsible for ignoring pandemic risk, the failure to prepare and the verging-on-criminal handling since. And I choose my words carefully having been responsible for part of our nation’s critical national infrastructure resilience in both the Nuclear and Intelligence sectors.
Snowflakes ? For staying in? Ok
Are you talking about the UK here?
I was hoping this post would devolve into another bitter and twisted 'I hate tories' rant.
I would think most people dislike self interest and incompetence, tory or not is irrelevant.
Dark_Side_of_the_Lune
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My frustration is not restricted to the Tories. Having seen at first hand the self-serving decision-making of many politicians of all colours, the incompetence of PHE and the limitations of the NHS, then it is the systemic failures which have led us into a way of life I never thought I’d experience in this country.
TangerineBayern
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I would be surprised if it got extended beyond 2nd Dec but they will introduce a Tier 3 plus that will look similar to what we have now. It will be very interesting as to what restrictions will be in place for Xmas and it wouldn’t surprise me if it was limited to two families being allowed to meet outside, the last thing they will want is mixing in households.
Hmmm you could be.right, but a tier 3 north and tier 1 south would have us wielding pitchfolks wouldnt it
BlackpoolWolves
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No..."snowflakes" for not being able to cope with "staying in" etc. Rather pathetic.
Lytham_fy8
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Here's a radical idea, people could just man the fuck up and cope with not going to the pub for a bit.
It's not a war, you're not being bombed, you're not starving, the power is still on, you can still leave your comfortable warm house, you're not opressed, you're not in any danger, you're just being asked to not socialise indoors so that the free healthcare you take for granted doesn't become overwhelmed......fucks sake.
It's not a war, you're not being bombed, you're not starving, the power is still on, you can still leave your comfortable warm house, you're not opressed, you're not in any danger, you're just being asked to not socialise indoors so that the free healthcare you take for granted doesn't become overwhelmed......fucks sake.
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Lytham_fy8
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You missed out the hopelessly shit CCGs
BlackpoolWolves
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Perhaps "most people" should get a grip and look at the bigger picture. To resort to "serious disorder" because of possible continued lockdown measures would be (imho) frankly patheticYou, me and millions of others. If they don’t keep to the 2nd of December then I fear for many peoples mental health plus i also think people will resort to serious disorder. Most people have quite simply had enough!!!!
I see wee jimmy north of the border is going backwards ffs
Poultongirl
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Everyones situation is different, who the hell are you to judge??? Although if I was to judge you I’d say you were a right bore that never goes out anywayPerhaps "most people" should get a grip and look at the bigger picture. To resort to "serious disorder" because of possible continued lockdown measures would be (imho) frankly pathetic
1966_and_all_that
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My Grandparents and parents' generations had to put up with almost six years of total war: blackouts, rationing, men away from home facing the enemy, the thought of invasion, the real threat and actuality of being bombed in the industrial and port cities.
By comparison, this is far less frightening and frustrating on a national scale. On an individual basis, where relatives die and families can't see each other there will indeed be terrible experiences. However, for those of us not so specifically distressed, we just have to get on with it.
Edit: oh, and they had no NHS either.
By comparison, this is far less frightening and frustrating on a national scale. On an individual basis, where relatives die and families can't see each other there will indeed be terrible experiences. However, for those of us not so specifically distressed, we just have to get on with it.
Edit: oh, and they had no NHS either.
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Whitstabletangerine
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Surely for one Christmas, (there should be a vaccine in place for next year), the population can make a sacrifice and allow the overworked NHS staff and carers to have a brief spell of calm over the holiday period, If restrictions are lifter on the 2nd then what we witnessed in the summer on the beaches and parks may well be repeated except this time around in enclosed premises with dire consequences a little later on for the health professionals.
1966_and_all_that
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Some of the dead ones are quite respectable.
I agree with what you are saying but back in March they said that the restrictions they were placing on us were to buy time so that the NHS wasn't overwhelmed. Eight months on how much more prepared is the NHS now than it was then?
At some point the health service has to be in a position where it can handle this as it has become a part of everyday life, how long will it take for the government to fund and organise this?
Poultongirl
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Ye and their grandparents grandparents grandparents grandparents grandparents probably wandered round in bare feet, went to fetch dirty water on a horse and lit a candle so they could see in the dark, oh and if they were extremely lucky they will have survived the plague!!!!!
1966_and_all_that
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...and your point is?....
Lala
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I’ll do as I’m told and I’m not struggling with my mental health but am lucky to be still going out to work.
I know a few people who live alone, aren’t able to go into the office and are struggling a bit mentally. They arent pub goers, it’s not always that simple, but they are getting lonely and low. I’m not judging them as snowflakes as everyone’s situation is different and how they react to it is too.
I know a few people who live alone, aren’t able to go into the office and are struggling a bit mentally. They arent pub goers, it’s not always that simple, but they are getting lonely and low. I’m not judging them as snowflakes as everyone’s situation is different and how they react to it is too.
Poultongirl
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My point is that it is the present and the future that matters, not how folk got by during a war nearly a century ago.
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rockontommy
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I always find it amusing hearing people who want to incarcerate the entire population for an unspecified amount of time call others selfish for having the audacity to go outside of the home.
Who are these psychopathic whoppers?
Who are these psychopathic whoppers?
tangerinenotorange
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France has now had more than two million COVID-19 cases and 437 deaths in the past 24 hours to bring its total deaths to 46,273. Everything isn't the fault of the Tories.
The population has made a sacrifice all bloody year.
The auld gits on here might enjoy the solitude in their autumn years listening to matches on t'wireless, but they need to think less selfishly. A vibrant economy is what keeps the NHS going.
I always find it amusing hearing people who want to incarcerate the entire population for an unspecified amount of time call others selfish for having the audacity to go outside of the home.
Who are these psychopathic whoppers?
Labour voting remainers Tommy. They have all become bitter and twisted sitting in all day watching the news 24/7.
The nhs is much better prepared.
Regarding your question about government funding, what do you think has been going on for the last 8 months?
And before you retort with your usual anti Tory nonsense, when has this black hole ever been filled ?
Farage had it right when he said the NHS needs removing from party politics and a grown up conversion needs to be had about budget every year.
Perhaps "most people" should get a grip and look at the bigger picture. To resort to "serious disorder" because of possible continued lockdown measures would be (imho) frankly pathetic
''Get a grip''
''Man the fuck up''
''Snowflakes''
Clearly you have had zero experience of dealing with people with depression. Have you not watched the recent tv programmes with prince William and sports people addressing this subject, you fckn cavemen.
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rockontommy
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As a former Labour voter who also voted Remain, I could take the hump here but fear you are mostly right.
The Blue Peter classes, sat at home, not looking after their mental wellbeing, (quietly and privately breaching a few guidelines here and there when it suits), awaiting the 'all clear' from the teatime news. Sad acts.
Poultongirl
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Spot on . Can’t believe some of the inhumane nasty comments on here.
I'm not sure if you are asking or telling me stuff, and as you seem to have pre-empted an answer that you may or may not have asked for it seems that there is very little chance of having a grown up conversation about this.
Sorry for the assumption Tommy.
I supported labour until about 20 year ago until I realised they were bullshitters supported by self serving union officials.
Lala
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I would be going down hill fast without work. I’m so utterly grateful for the routine and interaction. I know all the advice about avoiding a mental slide but these are difficult times for many and we have to cut people some slack here.
You can’t flick a switch in your brain to just make yourself well sometimes and my heart goes out to anyone not coping for whatever reason.
When has the NHS black hole ever been filled ?
1966_and_all_that
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Except for two important points
1. History is an important teacher. It teaches us how we have acted in different situations in our past. The more recent, the more the lessons are relevant to our own circumstances.
2. The elderly today (say, 75 plus) will have personal experience of it. Those over 80 will have had experiences they can still recall. Certainly, everyone over the age of 75 will have memories of rationing whilst lots of that age group will remember bomb sites. These people are not from the history books. They are with us today and their early years memories of deprivation will inform their characters and, importantly, those of their children.
Consigning these experiences to dusty bookshelves renders them a disservice and waving them away as an irrelevance seems both arrogant and ill-informed.
I didn't know the NHS black hole was an actual quantifiable thing that has always been with us but i guess that governments have x amount of budget and x amount of expenses and they make a decision on how much and where they will spend our money.
Right now i would think that the main priority is covid 19 as dealing with that gets the whole economy functioning again therefore contributing more to the coffers for them to decide where they will spend it.
So sometimes this black hole may be fuller than it is at other times, maybe in the early days the hole was full to the brim, i don't know.
As to being anti Tory or pro Labour i don't vote for either of them.
Right now i would think that the main priority is covid 19 as dealing with that gets the whole economy functioning again therefore contributing more to the coffers for them to decide where they will spend it.
So sometimes this black hole may be fuller than it is at other times, maybe in the early days the hole was full to the brim, i don't know.
As to being anti Tory or pro Labour i don't vote for either of them.
tangerine.com
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Mismanaged NHS should have always been prepared. When my mum worked in a hospital in the 1950’s there was a shortage of nurses. The shortage was down to poor management.
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rockontommy
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No apology necessary. I didn't vote for JC and won't be voting for KS either after his insipid brand of solidarity opposition. Pfeffel must be laughing his conkers off at how shit Labour have been.
fcblackpool
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It will be extended, possibly until the 16th. Then tier 3.
I'm feeling a 'ONE LAST PUSH' tag coming on.
How Christmas fits in I'm not sure. There will be family relaxation, but how far?
I'm feeling a 'ONE LAST PUSH' tag coming on.
How Christmas fits in I'm not sure. There will be family relaxation, but how far?
Lala
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I think they’ll relax everything for Christmas Day and maybe a few more restrictions lifted between Christmas and new year.
Then tier restrictions followed by on off circuit break lockdowns if required.
Pure guesswork of course.
