Do you still back Critchley?

Do you still back Critchley?


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So there’s just under 75% of fans sticking with the Manager right now. 👍

I must admit, I’m very surprised that over a quarter have given up so easily.

It’s clearly not the spine of the team that we should be worried about!!
You can't say the poll is loaded and then go on to draw a conclusion from it.

For balance. So there's just over 75% who are not right behind the Manager right now.

And I must admit I'm very surprised that about a quarter have accepted what they see and have faith in it.

👍👍👍
 
4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-2 with CJ sat on the bench and attacking players like Dale,Kouassi and Dembele starting and we'll see far far far better football. Two outlets of attack. Rather than one, single dimensional one.

An actual left back at left back. An actual right back at right back. And go from there. Back to basics Neil.
You can put all the attacking players on we have at the club, but when the brief is to not attack and go for a 0-0 even when 3-0 down what's the point? 🤷
 
You can't say the poll is loaded and then go on to draw a conclusion from it.

For balance. So there's just over 75% who are not right behind the Manager right now.

And I must admit I'm very surprised that about a quarter have accepted what they see and have faith in it.

👍👍👍
I just did 😉
 
So there’s just under 75% of fans sticking with the Manager right now. 👍

I must admit, I’m very surprised that over a quarter have given up so easily.

It’s clearly not the spine of the team that we should be worried about!!
I think a big section feels the same way - they haven't given up, as you suggest, but are concerned about what they are seeing. A strange set up that doesn't work, doesn't provide an attacking threat most of the time and is unbalanced. it's difficult to understand why Critch has persisted with it, even if it is only 7 league games. It makes you wonder what he is thinking and whether he is actually seeing it. Principally the strange wing backs and the lack of attacking nous. The one attacking plan seems to be CJ.

We've 8 points from 4 home games which is half decent. Away from home we have been pretty terrible but panic is not the way forward. But he needs to show that he sees the blatantly obvious issues and knows how to fix them, sooner rather than later. We offer so little threat and the players seem possibly confused and certainly demotivated. And bored, like the rest of us.
 
First time round the players gave him 110% every week.

They didn't at Lincoln, and they didn't Saturday,

I actually think the squad we've got is good enough. The question mark then has to be with the manager. I voted unsure, but I am becoming concerned.
First time round we were on the Up and Sadler was spending on his new hobby ! Things are a lot different on the way down with no influx of quality signings ….that time we beat Sunderland to sign Yates etc my how we have fallen !
 
First time round we were on the Up and Sadler was spending on his new hobby ! Things are a lot different on the way down with no influx of quality signings ….that time we beat Sunderland to sign Yates etc my how we have fallen !
We've spent more on Joseph than Jerry cost in a business theat loses money every year and Sadler already 18 million down.

Norburn, Pennington and Morgan all decent signings who will be on good money add on the Rhodes loan this current poor run is down to Critchley not the owner.
 
I've had concerns but last Saturday raised them due to his starting line up, formation but then his substitutions.
Strange thing is had their keeper not been on such good form then we could have nicked something which might have validated him but these defeats are laying him bare.
 
I’m not sure you could ever accuse Sadler of burying his head in the sand. If anything he probably reacted to this kind of shit and pulled the trigger too early with Appleton.

Best thing he could do imo is make it abundantly clear that Critchley is her until the end of the season regardless….
Can't agree with you there. Appleton had to go after the Wigan game, leaving a new appointment 4 weeks without games to do, in effect, a pre season before going into the January window.

Instead we doubled down on the mistake by allowing Appleton a transfer window to get players in, then sacking him as it closed.
 
You can't say the poll is loaded and then go on to draw a conclusion from it.

For balance. So there's just over 75% who are not right behind the Manager right now.

And I must admit I'm very surprised that about a quarter have accepted what they see and have faith in it.

👍👍👍
For more balance 75% say it's not the time to sack him.
 
For more balance 75% say it's not the time to sack him.
For whopper balance, that question wasn't asked.

There will be a number in the useless camp, like me, who also think now is not the time to sack him. Now is the time to impose a No 2 of stature on him, sort out what NC is good at and let him deal with that with the No 2 having an important input in other areas.

The improvement would be instantaneous.
 
Can't agree with you there. Appleton had to go after the Wigan game, leaving a new appointment 4 weeks without games to do, in effect, a pre season before going into the January window.

Instead we doubled down on the mistake by allowing Appleton a transfer window to get players in, then sacking him as it closed.
Agree with that. He should have gone post Wigan. However giving him the window should have led to him staying to see it through.
 
Wigan occurred a few short games (only 2 weeks) after back to back wins against knob end and Coventry. There are issues with injury, the Wigan game itself could have easily gone either way and we performed well with 10 men.

I just don’t see how we could have realistically have justified a potting at that point.
 
Wigan occurred a few short games (only 2 weeks) after back to back wins against knob end and Coventry. There are issues with injury, the Wigan game itself could have easily gone either way and we performed well with 10 men.

I just don’t see how we could have realistically have justified a potting at that point.
The manager cost us that game. We were hanging on with 10 men and clearly out on our feet. The sub was obvious to be made at 1-0. Five minutes later we were 2 1 down and then he made the subs. Inept.
 
I've just bumped into a lifelong pool fan today and we talked everything tangerine.
His take was, it's probably the worst football he's seen for a very long time, with the players themselves not knowing what there doing, and obviously the square pegs in round holes. He was gutted.
'... not knowing what they're doing ...'
 
I almost clicked the unsure button but that’s almost unending with any manager. So in a binary yes or no I’m going yes.
The football is appalling, poor, slow, laborious etc etc etc. However if he’s got a plan and this is stage 1 then so be it.
He needs success, we need success so I’m going to back him to do what he did last time around.
But, 'last time around' we had the incredible good fortune to benefit from what was to become the 'perfect storm'; it was almost as though fate dictated our time to enjoy meaningful success had finally arrived and nothing was going to stand in our way. Everything was stacked in our favour and achieving promotion seemed inevitable.

This time around, however, I have absolutely no sense of that same prevailing mood, and I beginning to fully grasp the meaning of the saying 'lightning never strikes twice'. Sorry, folks, but we're in for a long hard slog this campaign and anyone who thinks otherwise is simply clutching at straws.
 
We've spent more on Joseph than Jerry cost in a business theat loses money every year and Sadler already 18 million down.

Norburn, Pennington and Morgan all decent signings who will be on good money add on the Rhodes loan this current poor run is down to Critchley not the owner.
100% agree with you
 
But, 'last time around' we had the incredible good fortune to benefit from what was to become the 'perfect storm'; it was almost as though fate dictated our time to enjoy meaningful success had finally arrived and nothing was going to stand in our way. Everything was stacked in our favour and achieving promotion seemed inevitable.

This time around, however, I have absolutely no sense of that same prevailing mood, and I beginning to fully grasp the meaning of the saying 'lightning never strikes twice'. Sorry, folks, but we're in for a long hard slog this campaign and anyone who thinks otherwise is simply clutching at straws.
That as maybe T, but my opinion is different to yours hence my comment.

That rich tapestry of opinions will reveal the truth in good time. If he’s sacked for poor performance- I will take the humble path of saying you were all right and I was wrong.

If come Christmas we are right up there in the mix, then I hope you all do the same?
 
I 've lost interest a little this season with Critchley coming back to the club. I've only been to the Exeter game and don't watch on the TV. I knew that if he didn't get us at it immediately, then the knives would be out. The sooner he goes, the better !
 
But, 'last time around' we had the incredible good fortune to benefit from what was to become the 'perfect storm'; it was almost as though fate dictated our time to enjoy meaningful success had finally arrived and nothing was going to stand in our way. Everything was stacked in our favour and achieving promotion seemed inevitable.

This time around, however, I have absolutely no sense of that same prevailing mood, and I beginning to fully grasp the meaning of the saying 'lightning never strikes twice'. Sorry, folks, but we're in for a long hard slog this campaign and anyone who thinks otherwise is simply clutching at straws.
Not sure thay "everything was stacked in our favour" as you suggest. I remember a fixture backlog, more than our share of Covid related absences and our usual nightmare with injuries with Keshi, Madine, CJ and Marv all missing a big chunk of the second half of the season.

No "perfect storm" then, just a manager who got the best out of the players that he had available to him, which so far this season he isn't managing to do but a bit of patience and belief is needed from all.

Oh, and "lightening never strikes twice" is just plain wrong as there are plenty of examples of multiple lightening strikes.
 
Critchley has got us gelling and improving after his traditional slow start. Now he'll do what he always does which is get us to improve over the course of the season.

This thread hould be good reading later in the season. A case study in the fickleness and reactionary nature of football fans.
 
So 2 in a row and upto top half now.
Two points off the play off 6 off automatic.

Is anyone changing their view?
I think you've got to vote what you think at the time.
I never wanted Critch as Manager but conceded the logic of his appointment.
I voted "unsure" because when I did we weren't looking good.
That never meant if I was Simon Sadler I would have sacked him.
I can see both his strengths and his weaknesses.
I'll probably remain unsure until we approach the end of the season but just now it's starting to look promising and a bit similar to season 2020/21..
 
I think you've got to vote what you think at the time.
I never wanted Critch as Manager but conceded the logic of his appointment.
I voted "unsure" because when I did we weren't looking good.
That never meant if I was Simon Sadler I would have sacked him.
I can see both his strengths and his weaknesses.
I'll probably remain unsure until we approach the end of the season but just now it's starting to look promising and a bit similar to season 2020/21..

25% were confident two weeks ago that he had to go and we couldn’t succeed with him.

27% felt it was too too early to go sacking a manager who needed time and support.

The rest wanted more time to decide.

My point is 2 weeks on and two strong victories, has anyone now changed their mind or regret getting caught up in the emotion of a bad away game?
 
25% were confident two weeks ago that he had to go and we couldn’t succeed with him.

27% felt it was too too early to go sacking a manager who needed time and support.

The rest wanted more time to decide.

My point is 2 weeks on and two strong victories, has anyone now changed their mind or regret getting caught up in the emotion of a bad away game?
To be fair to the o/p, things needed to change and they have in quite a significant way. NC has brought in Dale and Kouassi, and stopped playing Connolly in the wing-back role. Kenny is also back and playing well.

We now have greater balance, threat and physicality. I’d also argue that we are seeing significantly more fight in all positions. It’s the manager’s job to get the best from his squad and he wasn’t. The criticism was entirely justified.

It is now right to say well done to NC, for making the changes he has. Barnsley won’t be far off, and that was the best all round performance of the season. We looked strong and when the likes of Lyons, Gabriel and Joseph are fit, we’ll have even greater depth.
 
To be fair to the o/p, things needed to change and they have in quite a significant way. NC has brought in Dale and Kouassi, and stopped playing Connolly in the wing-back role. Kenny is also back and playing well.

We now have greater balance, threat and physicality. I’d also argue that we are seeing significantly more fight in all positions. It’s the manager’s job to get the best from his squad and he wasn’t. The criticism was entirely justified.

It is now right to say well done to NC, for making the changes he has. Barnsley won’t be far off, and that was the best all round performance of the season. We looked strong and when the likes of Lyons, Gabriel and Joseph are fit, we’ll have even greater depth.

I again repeat, the poll was to get rid of the manager at that point not to keep him.

I voted to keep him as I have seen this manager time and time again make changes like he did last two games and turn around our season. That’s why I trusted him. That’s why I backed him and that’s why I put my neck on the block and said I’ll take it on the chin if I am wrong.

If you said “get rid”, then you felt he couldn’t change and wouldn’t make the switches he did. That’s fine, that’s your view but you cannot revision it to “he needed to change things”. Of course he did, it was dire against Wycombe and he had to change it.
 
Critchley has got us gelling and improving after his traditional slow start. Now he'll do what he always does which is get us to improve over the course of the season.

This thread hould be good reading later in the season. A case study in the fickleness and reactionary nature of football fans.
It has been ** shite at times. So no it doesn’t read good at the end of the season.

It reads that the changes fans were crying out for have happened! You can’t play CJ Hamilton as the only attacking outlet and Connolly isn’t a full back. Don’t you re write history, we all wanted it to change. He’s changed it and we have improved. I ** hate posts like that.

It isn’t fickle hating shit football and losing to Port Vale and have an opinion about it. What a turd final para that is.
 
It has been ** shite at times. So no it doesn’t read good at the end of the season.

It reads that the changes fans were crying out for have happened! You can’t play CJ Hamilton as the only attacking outlet and Connolly isn’t a full back. Don’t you re write history, we all wanted it to change. He’s changed it and we have improved. I ** hate posts like that.

It isn’t fickle hating shit football and losing to Port Vale and have an opinion about it. What a turd final para that is.
We didn't lose to Port Vale 😉
 
It reads that the changes fans were crying out for have happened!

You keep telling yourself that. CJ is playing the same position he has and Connolly hasn’t played full back this season.

Here’s a challenge, find me 3 posts where people were demanding Kouassi start. Or even be signed for that matter,

I also don’t recall the fans demanding Kenny be brought back, or for Dale to start at wing back.

But yeah, well done you 😅
 
It has been ** shite at times. So no it doesn’t read good at the end of the season.

It reads that the changes fans were crying out for have happened! You can’t play CJ Hamilton as the only attacking outlet and Connolly isn’t a full back. Don’t you re write history, we all wanted it to change. He’s changed it and we have improved. I ** hate posts like that.

It isn’t fickle hating shit football and losing to Port Vale and have an opinion about it. What a turd final para that is.
People didn't want team changes, they wanted the manager out, having decided he wouldn't change the team. You're rewriting history to say otherwise.
 
People didn't want team changes, they wanted the manager out, having decided he wouldn't change the team. You're rewriting history to say otherwise.
Yeah, and at the time, he didn’t make the obvious changes he should have. Stubborn in selection and he’s absolutely not above criticism.

Nothing wrong with wanting Critchley out if he persisted playing like that. We don’t beat Barnsley or Reading playing with Connolly at left wing back and Beesley upfront.
 
You keep telling yourself that. CJ is playing the same position he has and Connolly hasn’t played full back this season.

Here’s a challenge, find me 3 posts where people were demanding Kouassi start. Or even be signed for that matter,

I also don’t recall the fans demanding Kenny be brought back, or for Dale to start at wing back.

But yeah, well done you 😅
Erm. I did. On the the pod. He moved CJ yesterday so keep up pal. Completely different side of the pitch…?
 
It has been ** shite at times. So no it doesn’t read good at the end of the season.

It reads that the changes fans were crying out for have happened! You can’t play CJ Hamilton as the only attacking outlet and Connolly isn’t a full back. Don’t you re write history, we all wanted it to change. He’s changed it and we have improved. I ** hate posts like that.

It isn’t fickle hating shit football and losing to Port Vale and have an opinion about it. What a turd final para that is.
Not as turd and objectionable as that final para. We didnt even lose to PV.
 
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I tried debating with Kurt. Now I know why no-one else bothers. Dripping in wilful ignorance.
Kurt is also deluded. Last week on the Reading matchday thread he was telling us that Critchley must have listened to him on the pod the clear implication being that he, Kurt, influenced the team and set-up. Totally deluded.
 
We are 3 points off 3rd position. He's very frustrating. All the comments are valid to an extent but if we win our game in hand we will be up and amongst 'em.
 
There’s been a few change their vote on here since the original post.

Do you still feel the same or have you moved your views?
 
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