England v Argentina

Start of second half and Argentina took the lead 16-17 but England just gone over with a charge down try from Dan so back in the lead 17-23. 👍
 
Well that was bloody hard work but well done England in the end. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Just happy we’re not facing the All Blacks in tomorrow’s final as they would tear us a new arsehole.
 
Well that was bloody hard work but well done England in the end. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Just happy we’re not facing the All Blacks in tomorrow’s final as they would tear us a new arsehole.
That's what people said about the racist South Africans, but they were very lucky to beat us. Borthwick has done wonders in the short time he's been in charge. It's not pretty at the moment but it works. With the new regime going forwards and other countries going backwards (hello, Paddy), the six nations will be very interesting next year. My money would be on France at the moment.
 
That's what people said about the racist South Africans, but they were very lucky to beat us. Borthwick has done wonders in the short time he's been in charge. It's not pretty at the moment but it works. With the new regime going forwards and other countries going backwards (hello, Paddy), the six nations will be very interesting next year. My money would be on France at the moment.
Borthwick has taken advantage of a very favourable draw to take England to third place.

The world rankings show tonight’s teams as numbers 5 and 7 in the world. They don’t lie, and there’s a large gap between the top 4 and the rest.

As for the 2024 six nations, it’s the dustcart after the Lord Mayor’s show..
 
Presumably you include Ireland and France in the top 4. Well we'll see in February and March. The times they are a-changin'.
 
Don't know about anyone else but Borthwick's brand of rugby sends me to sleep, he has one pf the fastest wingers in the World in Henry Arundel and the lad may as well have been sat in the stands tonight.

Box kick after box kick hoping for the opponent to make a mistake and not playing any attacking rugby is not my idea of entertainment.

A 3rd place finish due to a kind draw papers over the cracks for me, bit like our esteemed football manager for England, safety first and fuck the crowd.

As mentioned I'm glad in a way we're not facing the All Blacks tomorrow, that would have been an absolute hammering.
 
That's a lot of paragraphs to say we're not.very good.

Borthwick 's from the Leicester school of rugby. If you haven't got Dean Richards and Neil Back it doesn't work
 
Did we win? The guy's had 5 months to pick up the pieces. He's made great strides in the results, the performances can come later.
 
3rd place is a lot better than I had expected and we were a dodgy call away from a guaranteed 2nd. Anyone writing us off against New Zealand is a little previous, as Blackpool fans we should know a final is anyone's. I'm desperately disappointed our lads didn't get a chance to take on the All Blacks, a team not too long ago, also written off. Borthwick deserves great praise, as do the players, yet again it's nice to see England being the cream of the northern hemisphere at a world cup.
 
3rd place is a lot better than I had expected and we were a dodgy call away from a guaranteed 2nd. Anyone writing us off against New Zealand is a little previous, as Blackpool fans we should know a final is anyone's. I'm desperately disappointed our lads didn't get a chance to take on the All Blacks, a team not too long ago, also written off. Borthwick deserves great praise, as do the players, yet again it's nice to see England being the cream of the northern hemisphere at a world cup.
I think that anyone with any rugby knowledge knows that Ireland and France are the best Northern hemisphere teams at the mo.
 
I think that anyone with any rugby knowledge knows that Ireland and France are the best Northern hemisphere teams at the mo.
Didn't see either in the semi finals? Rankings show England as favourites for Euro 2024, they mean nothing. Let's see how the 6 nations pan out.
 
I think that anyone with any rugby knowledge knows that Ireland and France are the best Northern hemisphere teams at the mo.
Don't you mean the least worst? NH rugby never delivers when it matters and France/Ireland are currently the main reason for that. Irelands "golden generation" failed big style and France balls up their big chance against SA in front of a partisan home crowd. England too contrived to lose at the last minute but at least nobody expected them to deliver anything at this World Cup. Back to the comfort zone of the 6 Nations where the winners will no doubt delude themselves that they are back on the world stage. One NH World Cup win demonstrates that it is far from being a global game - the 6 nations is definitely a league below the annual competition in the SH.
 
3rd place is a lot better than I had expected and we were a dodgy call away from a guaranteed 2nd. Anyone writing us off against New Zealand is a little previous, as Blackpool fans we should know a final is anyone's. I'm desperately disappointed our lads didn't get a chance to take on the All Blacks, a team not too long ago, also written off. Borthwick deserves great praise, as do the players, yet again it's nice to see England being the cream of the northern hemisphere at a world cup.
Borthwick is just carrying on from where Eddie Jones to left us, win the ball and kick for territory, even Argentina played with ball in hand last night, we have some of the best backs in the world but apart from Chile they hardly touched the ball.
We have a lot of work to do to get anywhere near France, Ireland or Scotland.
 
That's what people said about the racist South Africans, but they were very lucky to beat us. Borthwick has done wonders in the short time he's been in charge. It's not pretty at the moment but it works. With the new regime going forwards and other countries going backwards (hello, Paddy), the six nations will be very interesting next year. My money would be on France at the moment.
I agree it should have been us in the final but we’ve beaten Argentina twice now and both were very close games which could have gone either way but New Zealand put 44 points past Argentina conceding just 2 penalties in the semi final in a totally dominant one sided game.

My prediction for the final is a comfortable All Blacks win.
 
I agree it should have been us in the final but we’ve beaten Argentina twice now and both were very close games which could have gone either way but New Zealand put 44 points past Argentina conceding just 2 penalties in the semi final in a totally dominant one sided game.

My prediction for the final is a comfortable All Blacks win.
NZ won't be knocking the ball on giving SA scrums. Take the Scrum penalties out of the game and South Africa will struggle against NZ.
Plus SA have had two hard games, France and England, NZ had a training run out against Argentina.
 
Don't you mean the least worst? NH rugby never delivers when it matters and France/Ireland are currently the main reason for that. Irelands "golden generation" failed big style and France balls up their big chance against SA in front of a partisan home crowd. England too contrived to lose at the last minute but at least nobody expected them to deliver anything at this World Cup. Back to the comfort zone of the 6 Nations where the winners will no doubt delude themselves that they are back on the world stage. One NH World Cup win demonstrates that it is far from being a global game - the 6 nations is definitely a league below the annual competition in the SH.
Yes, dant argue with that although the British Lions are usually competitive.
 
Great result in finishing 3rd in the world Cup, realistically NZ, SA, France, Ireland and Scotland are all better than us, and we have no chance of winning the Six Nations.

We've played with a lot of heart and a lot of passion in this World Cup which is very pleasing, but our style of play must make every back in the England set up so frustrated, playing kick chase every game is not what any back would want to do in every game, but you can see the half backs are playing to a plan, and that plan is zero risk rugby, and that doesn't put bums on seats or win any friends in the game.
 
England's anti-rugby is certainly effective if not easy on the eye. If not for more bent officiating we would be in the final.
 
Oh come on mate. The draw was a farce!
The draw was undoubtedly favourable but all any team can do is beat who is in front of them. England gave South Africa a bigger scare than France, albeit our game was more attritional. We are a little behind Ireland and France but that doesn't mean we should be ashamed of our bronze medal. The team was bonded together at the last minute by Borthwick and showed a lot of character, if not enough flare. The next 4 year cycle starts again, I'm sure all teams will have a changing of the guard. It'll make for an interesting 6 nations, I just hope it has given our players a bit of a confidence boost.
 
The draw was undoubtedly favourable but all any team can do is beat who is in front of them. England gave South Africa a bigger scare than France, albeit our game was more attritional. We are a little behind Ireland and France but that doesn't mean we should be ashamed of our bronze medal. The team was bonded together at the last minute by Borthwick and showed a lot of character, if not enough flare. The next 4 year cycle starts again, I'm sure all teams will have a changing of the guard. It'll make for an interesting 6 nations, I just hope it has given our players a bit of a confidence boost.
Oh I'm not saying you should be ashamed. In fact, I would celebrate it. I'm just trying to be realistic. Ireland and France are head and shoulders above the rest of us at the mo IMO. Even Scotland are improving. Anyway, looking forward to the 6 nations.
 
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