ENGLAND VS INDIA - 2nd TEST

seasidelytham

seasidelytham

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Starts tomorrow @ 4am again.

No Leach due to knee injury picked up during 1st test. If they decide to go with 3 spinners plus Root, then could be a debut for Shoaib Bashir. However , pitch apparently more favourable for batting so might decide an extra seamer…….decisions, decisions.
 
A shame to change a winning side but that may just open a door to Bashir getting his chance. India are still without Kohli and will also be without Rahul and Jadeja. If we go all out spin, we really do need to win the toss and bat first. Hopefully another good test match.
 
Definitely need that extra seamer for me unless the pitch is a real spinners haven, Joe Root can now be classed as a front line spinner rather than a part time one so we do have three spinners in the team even without Leach.

It all depends on how they assess the conditions and if they feel that Bashir is ready for his Test debut.
 
Going to be one where trying to understand conditions is key. I wouldn't replace Leach with another spinner because Root can provide enough and is arguably as good as the other two anyway.

The things to consider are whether it will reverse once the ball gets old. In which case, Jimmy is the man and whether Wood is OK to play 2 in 2.

If it's not swinging, you could play Robinson on the basis that he's a better batsman and or Atkinson on the basis that he has extra pace which is sometimes useful if it's one of those totally benign pitches. Obviously if Wood won't play then Atkinson is the swap for him for the same reason.

Final option: if it's going to turn a lot again, you play Lawrence to bolster the batting and get an extra spinner in.
 
England Men's XI

1. Zak Crawley
2. Ben Duckett
3. Ollie Pope
4. Joe Root
5. Jonny Bairstow
6. Ben Stokes (C)
7. Ben Foakes
8. Rehan Ahmed
9. Tom Hartley
10. Shoaib Bashir
11. James Anderson

Anderson should offer more control than Wood and if it does swing will be a real threat.

It'll be interesting to see how Bashir does, very talented but this will really test his temperament.
 
Stokes and Mcullum will pick Bashir, they are happy to give debuts to up and coming talent, shame the white ball teams seem to be a bit of an ld boys network. Looking forward to this test match.
 
Team selected: England: Zak Crawley, Ben Duckett, Ollie Pope, Joe Root, Jonny Bairstow, Ben Stokes, Ben Foakes, Rehan Ahmed, Tom Hartley, Shoaib Bashir, James Anderson

Edited to add apologies to NewburyOne…..sorry I missed your 8:32am post 😎
 
Really looking forward to this.

Eng winning was the best possible start for the series and I'd expect a quality 2nd Test with India upping their game considerably.

Hopefully Test Cricket is the main winner.
 
NewburyOne said:
England Men's XI

1. Zak Crawley
2. Ben Duckett
3. Ollie Pope
4. Joe Root
5. Jonny Bairstow
6. Ben Stokes (C)
7. Ben Foakes
8. Rehan Ahmed
9. Tom Hartley
10. Shoaib Bashir
11. James Anderson

Anderson should offer more control than Wood and if it does swing will be a real threat.

It'll be interesting to see how Bashir does, very talented but this will really test his temperament.
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Wood didn't go for many last time and offers a proper change of approach. Good with the bat too. I'd just bring in Jimmy for Leach.
 
So India win the toss and are batting….pitch very slow and so far India made a steady start and nothing much happening with the ball. Good to see Jimmy get among the wickets.
 
India 225/3 at tea and looking comfortable.

Been India’s day up to now so can we end the final session with a few much needed wickets as we certainly need them.
 
300 up for India 300/4.

But just as I speak Patel goes and throws his wicket away by tossing one up to Rehan.

301/5.
 
336-6 close

Those last couple of wickets have dragged us back into the game. We'll need a good first hour to put us in with a decent chance. Harmison says we have had the better of the day, I'd personally say it's honours even.
 
End of play today India close on 336/6.

A little rally by the England bowlers after tea taking those wickets but Jaiswal still there on 179.

Tough day for England pretty much assured of chasing a big 400+ score down tomorrow.
 
I think we should have maybe played another seamer, but an interesting days play, it was a good toss to win for India but a lot of twists and turns (pun intended) to come methinks.
 
BBC are claiming it's a brilliant day for England? Don't agree at all. We have to bat last. And they still have 4 wickets in hand....
 
Draws are almost ruled out with this England team due to run rates and lack of real Chris Tavere type players.

Seems like a big total already
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
End of play today India close on 336/6.

A little rally by the England bowlers after tea taking those wickets but Jaiswal still there on 179.

Tough day for England pretty much assured of chasing a big 400+ score down tomorrow.
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Plus batting last means we can't afford to give a big first innings lead away. Tomorrow will possibly decide the way the Test goes.

Get quick wickets and finish on 2 or 3 down and we'll be right in it.
 
Wizaard said:
Plus batting last means we can't afford to give a big first innings lead away. Tomorrow will possibly decide the way the Test goes.

Get quick wickets and finish on 2 or 3 down and we'll be right in it.
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You just never know with this side, that's what makes it so exciting although I have to say I would rather be bowling last on this pitch,
 
SeasideKurt said:
BBC are claiming it's a brilliant day for England? Don't agree at all. We have to bat last. And they still have 4 wickets in hand....
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Feels like an even day to me, but we've yet to see if the surface is as benign for Bumrah and their spin attack.
 
Eng came back well it seems. On the days play India would be 55 to 45 ahead. On the game with Eng batting last, runs on the board put India at closer to 60.

Looking forward to the highlights and seeing some live (TV) in the morning.
 
Great days work from England's young spinners and a hell of a knock from Jaiswal, seems about even from here. Great thing about this series is you wake up in the morning and everything is either tits up or smiles all round.
 
braymarina said:
Great days work from England's young spinners and a hell of a knock from Jaiswal, seems about even from here. Great thing about this series is you wake up in the morning and everything is either tits up or smiles all round.
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He'd make a great England opening bat!!
 
Well that first session couldn't have gone much better. India wrapped up for under 400 and a lightening start for Crawley and Duckett. A long way to go but England have fought really hard when at one point yesterday I was fearing India would score 500.
 
Great session for England but the big worry is batting last on this pitch, sure India have a few top batters missing but their much vaunted bowlers are still a huge worry, no wonder their home record is so good, a huge session coming up for England.
 
Deary me how good is Jasprit Bumrah? Just when it seemed all was going well and he comes along and reminds everyone how good he is, big trouble now for England.
 
Raging_Bull said:
I agree but how difficult is it to survive Bumrah and his wizardry over in India? The guy makes the ball talk. 🥴
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Very true he’s a class above but you shouldn’t be being bowled out from a Yorker straight into your wicket.

Edit tea 155/4.
 
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Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Very true he’s a class above but you shouldn’t be being bowled out from a Yorker straight into your wicket.

Edit tea 155/4.
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Not sure I'm with you there pal, that delivery was unplayable, I remember Darren Gough used to produce some superb yorkers and a perfect one is difficult to defend.

Anyway well played by Bairstow and Stokes to settle things down up to tea.
 
Definitely now...

Will sound critical but Crawley needs to be building on his start. As Sir Cook said at tea, 70's don't win games in India - or most other countries - you HAVE to go big once you're in. Difference between the teams right now is the 200 of Jaiswal. Nothing else.
 
straightatthewall said:
Definitely now...

Will sound critical but Crawley needs to be building on his start. As Sir Cook said at tea, 70's don't win games in India - or most other countries - you HAVE to go big once you're in. Difference between the teams right now is the 200 of Jaiswal. Nothing else.
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As was Popes 196.
 
straightatthewall said:
Definitely now...

Will sound critical but Crawley needs to be building on his start. As Sir Cook said at tea, 70's don't win games in India - or most other countries - you HAVE to go big once you're in. Difference between the teams right now is the 200 of Jaiswal. Nothing else.
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We could really do with a SAC to balance our first innings approach these days. I said yesterday that we couldn't judge the wicket until Bumrah and Co had performed on it.
 
Yes Jasprit Bumrah in his own country is just unplayable and it loods like game over as India will have a 150 plus run lead, even if we bowl them out for less than 200 getting 350 battling last is not going to happen.
 
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