Ethan Robson

Simonized said:
Unless we inserted a clause we can't get him back unless MK agrees to it.
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The opposite is true, most loans you can recall the player at anytime during a transfer window, it's rare that they include a clause that they cannot be recalled. So unless a clause was specifically included that the loan cannot be terminated, we would be entitled to recall him.
 
HighfieldSeasider said:
The opposite is true, most loans you can recall the player at anytime during a transfer window, it's rare that they include a clause that they cannot be recalled. So unless a clause was specifically included that the loan cannot be terminated, we would be entitled to recall him.
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Well, Baardif put the clause in and it was pointed out weeks ago they had specifically inserted it.
Am I missing something?
 
ItsGrimUpNorth said:
He was sent out on loan after hardly featuring in the League One campaign. There would be no logic in recalling him for a championship campaign, he wouldn’t get game time.
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A lot of last season he was injured, and a lot of our players stepped up from L1 to Championship.
If no better players in the offing as CM then it would make absolute sense to recall him, rather than be held to ransom for an average player.
 
tangysider said:
A lot of last season he was injured, and a lot of our players stepped up from L1 to Championship.
If no better players in the offing as CM then it would make absolute sense to recall him, rather than be held to ransom for an average player.
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But he is an average player, from what we saw last season?
 
The came to us as a very inexperienced 23 year old kid and suffered injuries, he is now a 25 year old 6 ft box to box midfielder, I would recall him now, get him in the group and see how much he has developed!
 
The thing is, it's not championship manager the computer game; there are real life issues, a bit like Wintle to Cardiff. What effect on Ethan Robson recalling him, then him sitting on the bench for us rather than starting for MK. Back paying his wages and no better off potentially, and if he's then a toxic influence in the squad for example (which is possible if we've treated him like a commodity) then that can be extremely bad. We may recall him, we may not, I'm just offering a slightly different angle.
Also I'm not very clear on our squad 25 position atm!
 
If we cannot attract our targets this window, then he should be recalled, it’s that simple. We have too many injuries, so unless we are going to use the youngsters we don’t have many other options. I also think he is not anywhere near as bad as some people make out, he is playing again at the top end of league 1 so he can do a job for us when required.
 
tangysider said:
Year later he is still a young player
Regular starter for team top end of L1
If we use him as a team filler till summer when far more choice of players and fees not excessive, so even if not long term solution, it might make sense to bring him back.
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As a team filler, if we have no better options, I’d recall him. But it depends on many factors:

His wage?
His attitude?

If he’s on a high wage, which I doubt, it may be beneficial to keep him out on loan. Or maybe, Critchley does like him for the future and wants to develop him through game time in League One so that he can utilise him in the future for Blackpool.

There’s pro’s and con’s to both sides.
 
ItsGrimUpNorth said:
As a team filler, if we have no better options, I’d recall him. But it depends on many factors:

His wage?
His attitude?

If he’s on a high wage, which I doubt, it may be beneficial to keep him out on loan. Or maybe, Critchley does like him for the future and wants to develop him through game time in League One so that he can utilise him in the future for Blackpool.

There’s pro’s and con’s to both sides.
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I do remember Critch being asked about our players out on loan, and he said he was keeping tabs on them, and he specifically mentioned Ethan.
I think when he was sent on loan we were well placed with available midfielders, in addition to Kenny and Connolly we had Stewart, James?, Ward and Carey, and Ethan had a bad injury last year.
He might still surprise us and make the grade in Championship, but if not give him game time in Championship and sell him in summer
 
I'm hoping the club has a couple midfielders coming in but I wouldn't be against recalling Robson. Not sure how people have come to the conclusion he isn't up to this level, when we have league 1 centre-half Callum Connolly playing in midfield.

The club showed naivety in handing new contracts to Kev Stewart and Matty V. It's not often you see well run clubs hand out new contracts to injury plagued players, especially whilst they are still injured. In Kev Stewarts case, he has an awful injury record and last season, despite playing a few games in our promotion charge, was still regularly injured. He will be on a decent wage too and the club got a bit carried away in repaying a player with a new contract after promotion, instead of holding their nerve and realising his injury issues where always going to be a problem and we could get far better value for money elsewhere. Hopefully they have learnt from the Stewart one specifically.
 
Having thought about it, I don’t think we should recall him. We need min 1 creative midfielder this window. Expect more will arrive in the summer transfer window and we might have the injured players back by then. So a decent quality loan from a prem club + Brannagan would make more sense atm.
 
I’d imagine if the team loaning is only covering wages/a % of wages then there would be a recall clause. If they payed a loan fee too there wouldn’t be recall clause.
 
HighfieldSeasider said:
The opposite is true, most loans you can recall the player at anytime during a transfer window, it's rare that they include a clause that they cannot be recalled. So unless a clause was specifically included that the loan cannot be terminated, we would be entitled to recall him.
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I thought loans were now season loans unless specifically stated otherwise. You don't get those 90 day loans anymore than meant Danny Shittu missed out on a playoffs final.
 
Terence said:
I'm hoping the club has a couple midfielders coming in but I wouldn't be against recalling Robson. Not sure how people have come to the conclusion he isn't up to this level, when we have league 1 centre-half Callum Connolly playing in midfield.

The club showed naivety in handing new contracts to Kev Stewart and Matty V. It's not often you see well run clubs hand out new contracts to injury plagued players, especially whilst they are still injured. In Kev Stewarts case, he has an awful injury record and last season, despite playing a few games in our promotion charge, was still regularly injured. He will be on a decent wage too and the club got a bit carried away in repaying a player with a new contract after promotion, instead of holding their nerve and realising his injury issues where always going to be a problem and we could get far better value for money elsewhere. Hopefully they have learnt from the Stewart one specifically.
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Stewart and Virtue were both at Liverpool with Critch...
 
hills98 said:
The thing is, it's not championship manager the computer game; there are real life issues, a bit like Wintle to Cardiff. What effect on Ethan Robson recalling him, then him sitting on the bench for us rather than starting for MK. Back paying his wages and no better off potentially, and if he's then a toxic influence in the squad for example (which is possible if we've treated him like a commodity) then that can be extremely bad. We may recall him, we may not, I'm just offering a slightly different angle.
Also I'm not very clear on our squad 25 position atm!
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Very good point, but this should be where Critch's man-management skills come into play - if indeed he has them. The harsh reality though is that the club comes first, and Critch needs to do whatever is necessary to smooth things over with the player. Critch also needs to do a bit of self-assessment, as he's not been very good imo at squad rotation, and giving valuable game time to those that need it. If he improves on that, he may keep fringe players like Casey and Gretarsson (and Robson too if he returns) in a reasonable frame of mind.
 
I’d recall Ethan Robson and release Kevin Stewart, in the blink of an eye.

Kevin Stewart is the definition of stealing a living!
 
Murciaseasider said:
Very good point, but this should be where Critch's man-management skills come into play - if indeed he has them. The harsh reality though is that the club comes first, and Critch needs to do whatever is necessary to smooth things over with the player. Critch also needs to do a bit of self-assessment, as he's not been very good imo at squad rotation, and giving valuable game time to those that need it. If he improves on that, he may keep fringe players like Casey and Gretarsson (and Robson too if he returns) in a reasonable frame of mind.
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Yep thats fair. Not seen MK this year so had a snoop on their board. With our situation if he's in form and firing might well be a starter anyway, unless we can sign better:

"I thought Robson was fantastic last night. A few really good crunching tackles, plenty of pressing and looked good on the ball at all times. For me our best midfield pairing this season has been Robson and O'Riley and I don't think it is a coincidence that suffered a little bit of a blip whenever Robson was injured then not always starting for a while. Those two seem to jive really well and are always close by to support one and other in a tight spot. I love Kasumu but I think we look a better team when Robson and O'Riley are partnered together.

I would really like to see us try and secure Robson on a permanent deal. I think he is absolutely a top end of league 1 player and would back him to be able to step up to the championship. If/when Matty moves on, I think landing Robson should be the priority.


I think a permanent deal would be a good decision. He'd be affordable (I assume), doesn't look like he's in Blackpool's plans and he has certain qualities that make him stand out as a top end player for this level. Really suits the way we play. Was good last night, similar performance to that decent run of form he hit earlier in the season before his injury.

I'd love us to sign him permanently. Impresses me every time I see him play. He must feel hard done by whenever he's missed out, as he's been pretty consistent and not done a lot wrong. Probably goes a bit unnoticed and does the unflattering stuff well, but he would be a great permanent signing."
 
ItsGrimUpNorth said:
I’d recall Ethan Robson and release Kevin Stewart, in the blink of an eye.

Kevin Stewart is the definition of stealing a living!
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However, this isn’t me agreeing with the Ethan Robson recall - more me disagreeing with the way Kevin Stewart handles himself.

Should we stay up this year, I imagine the club may have a different approach to the summer transfer window. I’d like to see us bring in experience and youth, but more importantly just add a bit of depth to our squad. Injuries will happen every season, granted. But it’s about having the players to fill the positions - which, this season, we unfortunately are struggling to do.

Should no midfielder come in in the next week or 2, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Robson recalled, even if it’s just to make the numbers up.
 
We should use him as a part exchange for Scott Twine! We should have gone for him in the summer when his contract was up at Swindon, he can score and assist.
 
Terence said:
I'm hoping the club has a couple midfielders coming in but I wouldn't be against recalling Robson. Not sure how people have come to the conclusion he isn't up to this level, when we have league 1 centre-half Callum Connolly playing in midfield.

The club showed naivety in handing new contracts to Kev Stewart and Matty V. It's not often you see well run clubs hand out new contracts to injury plagued players, especially whilst they are still injured. In Kev Stewarts case, he has an awful injury record and last season, despite playing a few games in our promotion charge, was still regularly injured. He will be on a decent wage too and the club got a bit carried away in repaying a player with a new contract after promotion, instead of holding their nerve and realising his injury issues where always going to be a problem and we could get far better value for money elsewhere. Hopefully they have learnt from the Stewart one specifically.
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I actually think those contracts handed will have had game time clauses in them as i don't think our owner and the people running the club would be that naive.
 
voyeur said:
How does he handle himself?
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On the pitch very well for me, but I do think he didn't help himself training hard all the way through the close season.
For whatever reason he had the mindset he had to catch up with his fitness and punish himself, I think a good preseason would have been plenty.
 
voyeur said:
How does he handle himself?
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He plays 1 game then has 6 weeks off, every time.

Cruises round the world buying properties.

Has more interest in his portfolio than football.

Laughs at fans via liking their tweets regarding his blatant disregard to playing football.
 
ItsGrimUpNorth said:
He plays 1 game then has 6 weeks off, every time.

Cruises round the world buying properties.

Has more interest in his portfolio than football.

Laughs at fans via liking their tweets regarding his blatant disregard to playing football.
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You seem to know a lot about his movements?
 
Terence said:
I'm hoping the club has a couple midfielders coming in but I wouldn't be against recalling Robson. Not sure how people have come to the conclusion he isn't up to this level, when we have league 1 centre-half Callum Connolly playing in midfield.

The club showed naivety in handing new contracts to Kev Stewart and Matty V. It's not often you see well run clubs hand out new contracts to injury plagued players, especially whilst they are still injured. In Kev Stewarts case, he has an awful injury record and last season, despite playing a few games in our promotion charge, was still regularly injured. He will be on a decent wage too and the club got a bit carried away in repaying a player with a new contract after promotion, instead of holding their nerve and realising his injury issues where always going to be a problem and we could get far better value for money elsewhere. Hopefully they have learnt from the Stewart one specifically.
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We don't know the ins and outs of their contracts. It may be that they're on low-ish wages with big bonuses based on appearances
 
Just looked at the BBC football website re last nights game.

In the detailed Text on the game he's only mentioned twice- once when he drew a foul and the second time when he played a ball to one of his colleagues, and they hit the ball at one of the AFC Wimbledon defenders.

On that basis, he didn't seem to make much of a contribution.
 
ItsGrimUpNorth said:
However, this isn’t me agreeing with the Ethan Robson recall - more me disagreeing with the way Kevin Stewart handles himself.

Should we stay up this year, I imagine the club may have a different approach to the summer transfer window. I’d like to see us bring in experience and youth, but more importantly just add a bit of depth to our squad. Injuries will happen every season, granted. But it’s about having the players to fill the positions - which, this season, we unfortunately are struggling to do.

Should no midfielder come in in the next week or 2, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Robson recalled, even if it’s just to make the numbers up.
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As far as I am aware, both Robson and Thorniley are on season long loans, with no recall options!
 
ItsGrimUpNorth said:
As a team filler, if we have no better options, I’d recall him. But it depends on many factors:

His wage?
His attitude?

If he’s on a high wage, which I doubt, it may be beneficial to keep him out on loan. Or maybe, Critchley does like him for the future and wants to develop him through game time in League One so that he can utilise him in the future for Blackpool.

There’s pro’s and con’s to both sides.
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And his weight..... Don't forget his weight!! 🙃
 
voyeur said:
You follow his movements on social media?
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I follow him on social media.

Due to your pedantic replies, I assume you don’t. He regularly posts about his portfolio, his holidays, his new business ventures.

So quit it with the sarcy comments, Mr Blackpool.
 
Some more MKD forum comments about Robson, from today...

Another good game yesterday and he's a really likeable guy. Watching back the highlights, he literally started his run about 4 yards from our goal, headed the clearance and sprinted the entire length of the pitch. Proper determination and I love it. Would love to sign him permanently, he is such a good all round player with no real weaknesses.
Agreed. Been absolutely superb so far this season, his range of passing is a joy and so confident on the ball. As good and important as Kasumu is, right now it would be very unfair if Robson loses his place in the XI.

I would really like to see us try and secure Robson on a permanent deal. I think he is absolutely a top end of league 1 player and would back him to be able to step up to the championship.
 
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