Fan engagement from the club

BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I’ve already said, I think the thread is badly ‘titled’.

And I’m pretty sure that our premium seats are amongst the highest, if not the highest priced in the Championship… Which given we are newly promoted and are a deprived area speaks for itself.

I didn’t say I think Blackpool should be different, I simply said I can understand where Lee is coming from and that whilst I think he didn’t express himself brilliantly in the video that I don’t think the general sentiment behind his views is unfounded or (as described by SOT) “Absolute Nonsense”…. Amazing really to think we have come through so much and we then have fans just dismissing other fans valid concerns in such a way….

That said we had many fans justifying Oyston behaviour for years.
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True, that's why I struggle to get worked up about the price of the seats in M block, as nobody has been priced out after having them for years, unless they weren't boycotting.
 
Loco said:
The lack of explanation for the delay in ticket sales for Bournemouth was very stressful for many given the expenses incurred on travel and accommodation. Not everyone is able to pop into the ticket office at the drop of a hat. Not everyone gets post everyday. Not everyone wants to queue for ages at the away ground ( note the queue for match day tickets at Bloomers). I'm sure the ticket office staff were getting very fed up of endless questions, especially when it was known they had the tickets the day before the Cardiff game.

The club have learnt from this and put out a statement about Millwall tickets. So well done to them for listening.

On another note, it does seem strange that clubs appear to be having issues in ticketing matches. We aren't the only fans moaning about late ticket sales for away games.
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Stressful!! Seriously?
 
SonOfTAM said:
Poorly worded than poorly expressed. If I was the club or a representative and saw / heard what he said, it wouldn’t go down well. The club has done things so much better than the previous owners and we should cherish we aren’t in the same position as we were 3-4 years ago.
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“It wouldn’t go down well” ooh crikey, we can’t be having that.

I don’t think that we’ve had sufficient time or consistency to ‘cherish’ anything at this stage. I think we ought to be happy that the Oystons have gone and be happy that things are progressing in the right direction.

That said, we need to remain vigilant and be careful not to get carried along on the tide of change and throw away our principles.

I’m glad we have individuals on here like Phil BFC, who are prepared to speak up and say what needs to be said, rather than adopting this pathetic “he who cannot be criticised” approach to Sadler.

RossendaleSeasider said:
True, that's why I struggle to get worked up about the price of the seats in M block, as nobody has been priced out after having them for years, unless they weren't boycotting.
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It sounds to me like you couldn’t really give a fuck as long as you aren’t personally affected?

Fans who had boycotted will have (presumably) wanted to come back and take their long standing seats, having sacrificed them to change the club owners….Or equally so called mushrooms, who simply chose to support their team in their later years….

Like I said, you can argue the decisions were commercially necessary, but there is also a human face to these decisions, which is why I can relate to the idea of the new ‘commercial’ approach feeling much colder.
 
All this discussion and still noone seems to know the reasons behind the comments made by Lee.

Perhaps someone who knows him well could ask him if he would explain.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
It sounds to me like you couldn’t really give a fuck as long as you aren’t personally affected?

Fans who had boycotted will have (presumably) wanted to come back and take their long standing seats, having sacrificed them to change the club owners….Or equally so called mushrooms, who simply chose to support their team in their later years….

Like I said, you can argue the decisions were commercially necessary, but there is also a human face to these decisions, which is why I can relate to the idea of the new ‘commercial’ approach feeling much colder.
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Not at all. It's you who's moaning that Sadler won't meet you for a pre-match pint in The Excelsior.
 
I think we were spoilt under the interim board in some ways due to their openness, which isn’t a bad thing, but we can’t compare the two as one group were trying to get the club in a state to sell and they did, the other (now current owner) has to look after all aspects and keep money flowing in... things can’t be done on the cheap as that gets you nowhere, someone tell me a business that has been successful when things are cheap? Unfortunately it doesn’t work. It’s championship football and our prices are competitive. The club want to do things their way and respect to that because that costs money to get the right people in to do the job. We all have our own agendas and Lee’s might be to give the best content - which the club are doing well with, and the SP might want exclusives on players but the club will want to do that before. I keep going back to we are in a pandemic still & that access isn’t going to come back over night. Imagine if an interview took place and that player missed out due to Covid? What would the reaction be then? Timings are key and I’m sure the club will host an opening training session again and other stuff. Just need to think about what’s going on around us - more important than YouTube / podcast views in terms of getting out of this Covid pandemic!
 
RossendaleSeasider said:
Not at all. It's you who's moaning that Sadler won't meet you for a pre-match pint in The Excelsior.
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I’m not arsed about meeting Sadler in the excelsior or anywhere else lol. I was just emphasising the difference in approach.

The ticket pricing makes no real odds to me either, because I can afford it.

I can however recognise that the shift towards a more commercially driven approach can be perceived as cold and less fan focused.
 
Rossendale and JJ, I stand corrected! 🤣🤣

“Poorly expressed” from my point of view that’s for sure. I personally know why clubs will charge for content, and i get why some don’t bother but channels like iFollow and club TV channels can bring in tens, if not hundreds of thousands of pounds and If that can fund better resources off and on the pitch, then I’m all for it. Don’t get much things for free / cheap these days, unless you go pet stores or B&M’s 😂😂
 
SonOfTAM said:
Rossendale and JJ, I stand corrected! 🤣🤣

“Poorly expressed” from my point of view that’s for sure. I personally know why clubs will charge for content, and i get why some don’t bother but channels like iFollow and club TV channels can bring in tens, if not hundreds of thousands of pounds and If that can fund better resources off and on the pitch, then I’m all for it. Don’t get much things for free / cheap these days, unless you go pet stores or B&M’s 😂😂
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I think there’s a different side to understanding the commercial value of content and a balance to be struck (especially at a small club like ours) between where that commercial value is best derived from.

So it’s possible (for example) that content is better used as a marketing tool to drive match attendance, than for the value of the content as a subscription….

From a personal perspective the subscription is just a reason for me not to have access to content, because I don’t value the content enough to be bothered paying for it…. That said, that content may well affect my decision to attend a game or not…. Hearing an inspirational interview with a player might mean the difference between me deciding to attend and not.

That, of course, applies across the board and the club will ultimately be the beneficiary of content produced by LCTV, SP and their own stuff…
 
JJpool said:
What's your obsession with denying it.

I love Blackpool and defend it all the time and had lived there most my life, but the reality is is comes at the bottom of wealth lists. Mainly due to the central areas being so poor. I've lived in many areas including near the football club, and further down Lytham road near the farmers.

I know all about Preston too as currently reside there. Some bad areas not in the centre so not on view as much as ours. Nice areas too, as Blackpool also has.

The fact is though the figures don't lie and Blackpool sadly is at the bottom of lots of lists.

The fact is to charge as much as we have done in some cases, in the area Blackpool is and the the pandemic we have had and still are having, was too high.
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The fact is the Blackpool boundary ends at Bispham to the North and Squires Gate to the South.

Most city areas are far larger, the Blackpool figures are for the centre of town, South Shore and Bispham, that's it, no leafy suburbs unlike Preston and Bristol etc..
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
The fact is the Blackpool boundary ends at Bispham to the North and Squires Gate to the South.

Most city areas are far larger, the Blackpool figures are for the centre of town, South Shore and Bispham, that's it, no leafy suburbs unlike Preston and Bristol etc..
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Common misconception that the boundary is at Bispham.

North of Bispham is Norbreck, and then Anchorsholme. And it is the northern end of the latter that has the boundary with Cleveleys and part of Thornton.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I think to dismiss the opinions of passionate fans like Lee and (by the sound of it Jayne too) as ‘absolute nonsense’ is a bit naive to be honest.

You can choose to assume ‘sour grapes’ or you can reflect on the fact that they may simply be closer to the ‘sharper end’ than the rest of us.

As I’ve said above, I know exactly where Lee is coming from as I feel it too. You mention ‘Social Media’ and I agree, it has improved massively, the T.V. is great and the Club is far more professional in many areas than I have ever seen. However at the same time (and maybe that’s something of a generational thing) there’s is something of a coldness to the way in which that fan / club relationship has become monetised.

I mentioned kids trophy photos above, but there are many examples… Ticket Prices, Basic TV content, the Uber high pricing of the central areas of the West Stand (previously occupied by long standing loyal STH’s) …Perhaps these are changes that needed to be made or commercial opportunities that needed to be ‘exploited’, but they are decisions that also involve and affect real people….. Decisions that possibly go unnoticed by most of us because a) we are caught up with the whole New Owner bandwagon and b) it doesn’t affect us directly.

It’s easy to forget, when you are rolling in cash, but Blackpool is an extremely deprived area. Many of our supporters have to make massive sacrifices simply to attend an occasional game and so whilst I get the need for the Club to transform I’m aware of the human impact.

I do wonder if “Fan Engagement” was the wrong term of phrase. To my mind it’s more about how the relationship between fan and Club has shifted… As I also said above I think it’s not about where we were with Oyston, but instead the very high expectations set by the interim board as to where that relationship might be going under a new regime….They were very much for strong interpersonal relationships between club and supporters, creating that sense of fan and community spirit in and around the club.

I don’t think anyone could deny that there is a marked difference. I mean when was the last time Simon Sadler (one of our own) popped into the excelsior for a pint with the lads… the real on the ground fans,… I have to say I had a great deal of respect and admiration for the way Ben Hatton engaged with and showed genuine respect for the people who essentially keep the club afloat.

The difference now is that it feels far more arms length and impersonal. So I can see that Lee simply won’t be “feeling the love”… because there isn’t any love…. It’s a cold professional / commercial relationship…. Everything has a commercially driven intention etc…

Perhaps that is the price we must pay in order to experience success of course, but Lee certainly isn’t talking nonsense to highlight something that (seems to me) to be blatantly obvious. The way he expressed his experience may not have been the best, but what he said is very real.
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BFC x 3

I'm agreeing with too much of what you say on here.

I don't know Lee personally but him and Jane have put a lot of effort in to their channel and certainly feel they improved lockdown for some supporters and I'd imagine many enjoyed last season more than they would have done thanks to their efforts.

I certainly agree that he may not have chosen his words very wisely but it's as if you are not allowed to criticise the new regime without facing the boring and predictable,, "Much better than the Oystons, do you want them back".

I don't think that Lee should be above criticism but the cheap shots at him and his output just because you don't happen to agree with his criticism are pathetic.
 
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Lytham_fy8 said:
The fact is the Blackpool boundary ends at Bispham to the North and Squires Gate to the South.

Most city areas are far larger, the Blackpool figures are for the centre of town, South Shore and Bispham, that's it, no leafy suburbs unlike Preston and Bristol etc..
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Runs all the way upto Cleveleys high Street ( Victoria road) it seems.

But yeah I have made that point before, if Blackpool had a bigger boundary it would lessen then effect of the poorer inner areas, on a whole Blackpool area view.

But it wouldn't change the fact that 8 out of 10 poorest areas were Blackpool areas in that central location. Although why the need to split then into 8 small areas is a bit much.

There are some very nice countryside like areas in South shore, behind trebaron sort of area, but yes only small compared to a lot.
 
Lee

You might have not explained yourself as well you as you could but it doesn't matter.

If the responses on here tell me anything, it's that you must be doing something right.

I'm struggling to see how any regular viewer of your channel could have any problem with either you or Jane and I'd certainly like to thank you both for all your efforts in providing your great content.

Keep up all your good work and don't let the b@stards grind you down.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
BFC x 3

I'm agreeing with too much of what you say on here.

I don't know Lee personally but him and Jane have put a lot of effort in to their channel and certainly feel they improved lockdown for some supporters and I'd imagine many enjoyed last season more than they would have done thanks to their efforts.

I certainly agree that he may not have chosen his words very wisely but it's as if you are not allowed to criticise the new regime without facing the boring and predictable,, "Much better than the Oystons, do you want them back".

I don't think that Lee should be above criticism but the cheap shots at him and his output just because you don't happen to agree with his criticism are pathetic.
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Yep, there’s a couple of very cheap and quite snidey digs at Lee’s stuff early on in the thread. Of course, it’s not going to be for everyone, but what is beyond any doubt is the passion and effort that Lee puts in to what he does.

On the other side… I can understand the whole “its better than the Oystons” mentality, but I’m not sure we can describe ourselves as a ‘normal club’ again until fans are free to unleash both barrels at the owners, without the chorus of ‘shushers’ in the background…. “Oooh you can’t say that….”etc…

When did football become so ** pimms and lemonade…
 
SonOfTAM said:
Not saying there isn’t an issue, but it’s not from BFC’s end. Poor from Bournemouth they’ve left it late for US to post.
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Nobody is saying the lack of tickets is our fault but lack of information (fan engagement) could have been better.

A statement from BFC would have saved the ticket office staff severe earache.

As stated, they have done this for Millwall so presumably they agree that they could have provided more information up front.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I think there’s a different side to understanding the commercial value of content and a balance to be struck (especially at a small club like ours) between where that commercial value is best derived from.

So it’s possible (for example) that content is better used as a marketing tool to drive match attendance, than for the value of the content as a subscription….

From a personal perspective the subscription is just a reason for me not to have access to content, because I don’t value the content enough to be bothered paying for it…. That said, that content may well affect my decision to attend a game or not…. Hearing an inspirational interview with a player might mean the difference between me deciding to attend and not.

That, of course, applies across the board and the club will ultimately be the beneficiary of content produced by LCTV, SP and their own stuff…
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Totally understand that, and yes there does need to be a balance and for me lots of clubs will use a teaser video to lure you onto their paid wall to watch a video. I know first hand that not all content needs to be behind a paid wall, but there’s certain content that I think should be, like your preview show (I know many will disagree) but it’s costing them money to make so I feel £1.99 a month is worth it). Exclusive interviews should be behind a paid wall but I feel the managers post match Interview should be heard for free, especially when you have local radio and media sharing the same content. Unfortunately most clubs are like that and will post a 15-30 second clip and then ask you to click a link to head you over to their site, I do that with my photography, show 3-4 images and then add a link to then full gallery, all about the stats and having views and numbers so clubs can reach targets set in house 👍🏼
 
Loco said:
Nobody is saying the lack of tickets is our fault but lack of information (fan engagement) could have been better.

A statement from BFC would have saved the ticket office staff severe earache.

As stated, they have done this for Millwall so presumably they agree that they could have provided more information up front.
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Sounded like a few were blaming the club for the ticket issues hence my defense on that. Yes you learn from your mistakes and put it right next time that situation comes up. No one is perfect, but behind on the inside, even if they say they don’t have the details yet, that still doesn’t help the fans a week before so by cause more panic? I get both ways, just feel it’s a cheap shot that’s all.
 
Interesting thread.

We have attempted to reach out to the club on various occasions to speak to current players, provide written content for their programmes and to cover news / information from the club on our podcasts. We’d love to do regular pieces with staff members of the club - the likes of Paul Flynn, Linton Brown, Ciaran Donnelly, Matty Blinkhorn, John Murphy, even the sports science team.

Unfortunately up to this point these requests have fallen on deaf ears.

We did receive a response around 12 months ago saying that it was something that could be picked up once we were back to normal (COVID) but have sent 3-4 emails since this point which haven’t had responses.
 
SonOfTAM said:
Totally understand that, and yes there does need to be a balance and for me lots of clubs will use a teaser video to lure you onto their paid wall to watch a video. I know first hand that not all content needs to be behind a paid wall, but there’s certain content that I think should be, like your preview show (I know many will disagree) but it’s costing them money to make so I feel £1.99 a month is worth it). Exclusive interviews should be behind a paid wall but I feel the managers post match Interview should be heard for free, especially when you have local radio and media sharing the same content. Unfortunately most clubs are like that and will post a 15-30 second clip and then ask you to click a link to head you over to their site, I do that with my photography, show 3-4 images and then add a link to then full gallery, all about the stats and having views and numbers so clubs can reach targets set in house 👍🏼
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£1.99 per month certainly isn’t worth it to me, though I accept it might be good value as far as the cost to produce is concerned…. At the end of the day you can go on forever paying for various media in the internet £1.99 per month here £3.50 per month there and it soon adds up.

What it does achieve (from my perspective ) is to piss me off… Just like it pisses me off when I try to read a telegraph article linked on here, when I can’t see a particular interview or extended game highlights and that affects my relationship with the Club.
 
utmp said:
Interesting thread.

We have attempted to reach out to the club on various occasions to speak to current players, provide written content for their programmes and to cover news / information from the club on our podcasts. We’d love to do regular pieces with staff members of the club - the likes of Paul Flynn, Linton Brown, Ciaran Donnelly, Matty Blinkhorn, John Murphy, even the sports science team.

Unfortunately up to this point these requests have fallen on deaf ears.

We did receive a response around 12 months ago saying that it was something that could be picked up once we were back to normal (COVID) but have sent 3-4 emails since this point which haven’t had responses.
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Without wanting sound like a **, why would the club do this for you? And by the same token, any other supporters who like the idea of doing something similar? I’d quite like a run out for the first team. Would it be a surprise if my requests fell on deaf ears?
 
SonOfTAM said:
Sounded like a few were blaming the club for the ticket issues hence my defense on that. Yes you learn from your mistakes and put it right next time that situation comes up. No one is perfect, but behind on the inside, even if they say they don’t have the details yet, that still doesn’t help the fans a week before so by cause more panic? I get both ways, just feel it’s a cheap shot that’s all.
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Some may have been blaming the club because they didn't know what the issue was!! Back to fan engagement again.
 
SeasideKurt said:
Well anyone with half a brain can see that it was Bournemouth's sides.

No extra communication required really.
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And therein lies the problem..

I think it’s fair to say that Blackpool probably had more than it’s fair share of folk with less than half a brain.
 
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straightatthewall said:
Without wanting sound like a **, why would the club do this for you? And by the same token, any other supporters who like the idea of doing something similar? I’d quite like a run out for the first team. Would it be a surprise if my requests fell on deaf ears?
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Same reason they might give an interview to any alternative media source surely?

Because it promotes the club within the local community, to the regular listeners / readers and develops relationships that have a positive long term impact on the club itself…

Why speak to Talk Sport (for example) I mean on any given day you probably access more Blackpool Fans by speaking to Lee Charles or UTMP… plus you are supporting local people and extending the reach, financial benefit and influence of the club in the community…
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Same reason they might give an interview to any alternative media source surely?

Because it promotes the club within the local community, to the regular listeners / readers and develops relationships that have a positive long term impact on the club itself…

Why speak to Talk Sport (for example) I mean on any given day you probably access more Blackpool Fans by speaking to Lee Charles or UTMP… plus you are supporting local people and extending the reach, financial benefit and influence of the club in the community…
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If there were limited outlets for media communication that might stack up. But there’s loads.
 
straightatthewall said:
If there were limited outlets for media communication that might stack up. But there’s loads.
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We have a small number of local independent content providers and there’s no reason not to support them. You could make the same excuse about anything….why bother supporting local schools, why bother supporting or accepting that any local business should benefit at all from the Club?

I mean surely that’s what the club being an actual part of the community is all about … or should the club just capitalise every single form of fan based revenue for themselves,

Perhaps they could take over national rail ‘Promenade Railways’ to ensure nobody inadvertently benefits from fans travelling to the game or buy up all the pubs within a 5 mile radius of the ground…

Fuck me…. Attitudes have certainly changed since Mr Spendypants arrived….😂
 
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I get the feeling that BFC_BFC_BFC just likes taking up contrary position for the hell of it. There can't be many other reasons for the tripe he's written today.

Like many others, I don't agree with Lee's sentiments, which seem perverse to me. Like others, I don't see why he should get any special favours either. There are two reasons for that - the first is that the millions Sadler has poured in entitle him to make these decisions, whether we like it or not.

The second is that the output from LCTV just isn't very good. Apart from what td53 does, I don't think any of the blogs or Podcasts are much better.

It's ironic though that he should be getting pelters for practically the only interesting thing I've ever heard him say.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Yep, there’s a couple of very cheap and quite snidey digs at Lee’s stuff early on in the thread. Of course, it’s not going to be for everyone, but what is beyond any doubt is the passion and effort that Lee puts in to what he does.

On the other side… I can understand the whole “its better than the Oystons” mentality, but I’m not sure we can describe ourselves as a ‘normal club’ again until fans are free to unleash both barrels at the owners, without the chorus of ‘shushers’ in the background…. “Oooh you can’t say that….”etc…

When did football become so ** pimms and lemonade…
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The thing is lees stuff is things like matchday videos and the video posted on this thread, fan questions and him and other pool fans answer them.

For anyone wanting more bfc discussion its clear what it is and always good to hear others views for me.

Hes a big pool fan and I'm sure many exiles in particular love seeing more who can't make it in person.

His q & a videos aren't stepping on anyone toes at the club as the club don't do that sort of content.

Hes going to every home and away game, which is a massive undertaking.

Doesn't deserve slagging off for me even if his wording wasn't the best👍

On a seperate point remember when there were about 50 people out of 4000 who asked for a refund after that last season where no one could attend.

There was a bit of an arsey statement put into the club minutes, which was unnecessary given the unprecedented pandemic and no one thought they wouldn't get to a game, plus many lost jobs and were probably struggling. People should have know what they signed up for but its wasn't a normal situation. Also it was a very small number.

The statement was along the lines of SS is getting fed up listening to people asking for refunds ( it was actually about 1.25% of people ) and his enthusiasm to do things may be diminished if people carry on.

I only mention that as someone earlier said if a club rep heard lees remarks it wouldn't go down well....

Which is almost a dont criticise anything at all or we might not do this....approach.....

Just to add I'm very happy with how things are going but we shouldn't be afraid to voice opinions or mention areas for feedback.
 
coppiceman said:
I get the feeling that BFC_BFC_BFC just likes taking up contrary position for the hell of it. There can't be many other reasons for the tripe he's written today.

Like many others, I don't agree with Lee's sentiments, which seem perverse to me. Like others, I don't see why he should get any special favours either. There are two reasons for that - the first is that the millions Sadler has poured in entitle him to make these decisions, whether we like it or not.

The second is that the output from LCTV just isn't very good. Apart from what td53 does, I don't think any of the blogs or Podcasts are much better.

It's ironic though that he should be getting pelters for practically the only interesting thing I've ever heard him say.
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Crikey who rattled your cage?

A little bit embarrassed about the snideyness of your earlier comments? It never ceases to amaze me how folk can be so pious one minute and so underhandedly nasty the next.

I do wonder if some folk are just jealous because they aren’t attracting the same interest as Lee.
 
utmp said:
Interesting thread.

We have attempted to reach out to the club on various occasions to speak to current players, provide written content for their programmes and to cover news / information from the club on our podcasts. We’d love to do regular pieces with staff members of the club - the likes of Paul Flynn, Linton Brown, Ciaran Donnelly, Matty Blinkhorn, John Murphy, even the sports science team.

Unfortunately up to this point these requests have fallen on deaf ears.

We did receive a response around 12 months ago saying that it was something that could be picked up once we were back to normal (COVID) but have sent 3-4 emails since this point which haven’t had responses.
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That's an interesting post. I can understand the Club believing they have some form of copyright on everything BFC related and wanting to get commercial value from it.
On the "engagement" point though I do think it's rude that the Club haven't responded if only to say go away.
That is more or less my issue on "engagement" and is why I supported Lee at the start of this thread.
Then there's the "this is a community club", we want to be inclusive, please come and help us clean the seats.
Like I said before though engagement means different things to different people.
I'm just going to text Critch now with my thoughts on team selection for tomorrow. He better not ignore me again. UTMP
 
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JJpool said:
On a seperate point remember when there were about 50 people out of 4000 who asked for a refund after that last season where no one could attend.

There was a bit of an arsey statement put into the club minutes, which was unnecessary given the unprecedented pandemic and no one thought they wouldn't get to a game, plus many lost jobs and were probably struggling. People should have know what they signed up for but its wasn't a normal situation. Also it was a very small number.

The statement was along the lines of SS is getting fed up listening to people asking for refunds ( it was actually about 1.25% of people ) and his enthusiasm to do things may be diminished if people carry on.

I only mention that as someone earlier said if a club rep heard lees remarks it wouldn't go down well....

Which is almost a dont criticise anything at all or we might not do this....approach.....

Just to add I'm very happy with how things are going but we shouldn't be afraid to voice opinions or mention areas for feedback.
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To be honest… my attitude when I heard about the comment towards those asking for refunds, was kind of “Just fuck off now and save us all the bother”.

I’d like to hope it was not a genuine reflection of the attitude at the top of the Club.

Treat people like consumers they’ll behave like consumers …. End of !
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
We have a small number of local independent content providers and there’s no reason not to support them. You could make the same excuse about anything….why bother supporting local schools, why bother supporting or accepting that any local business should benefit at all from the Club?

I mean surely that’s what the club being an actual part of the community is all about … or should the club just capitalise every single form of fan based revenue for themselves,

Perhaps they could take over national rail ‘Promenade Railways’ to ensure nobody inadvertently benefits from fans travelling to the game or buy up all the pubs within a 5 mile radius of the ground…

Fuck me…. Attitudes have certainly changed since Mr Spendypants arrived….😂
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I would say no to the railway suggestion, but some sort of monorail to move corporate guests away from troublesome away fans and our own, lesser-spending ne'er do wells could be an option.

The club can't offer a special lifeline to all and sundry, especially not in this day and age where everyone with a Twitter feed and a GoPro thinks their Joe Suggs, CSI or the new Danny Baker. There's already an established place for run of the mill Blackpool FC news, features and stories of fans and their trip from the North to South Pier in a Sinclair C5 for charity, and I don't see the Gazette giving up that position lightly.

Plus, where do you draw the line?

It starts with Lee wanting to interview Joe Nuttall or film Maxwell in the shower, then you have Welsh Phil demanding his 18-page dossier on 'Why Tony Mowbray sides can be beaten by inverted full backs and the Hungarian press' be seen by Critchley and quick as a flash BasilRobbie wants to see Simon Sadler's discounted cashflow plan for sustainable Championship football over the next 30 years, whilst maintaining a carbon neutral approach to heating pies.

The club is 'for' the community, not 'care' in the community. The debate stops here.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Crikey who rattled your cage?

A little bit embarrassed about the snideyness of your earlier comments? It never ceases to amaze me how folk can be so pious one minute and so underhandedly nasty the next.

I do wonder if some folk are just jealous because they aren’t attracting the same interest as Lee.
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I'm trying to be objective, actually. More so than he was, anyway.

And I do think you are arguing for the hell of it. I think he made an interesting point about Bournemouth, but we don't know exactly what happened there and when we do we might have different opinions. Which makes me wonder why you are going out on a limb for him if you're not just doing it for devilment. You don't know any more than the rest of us.

Lee chooses to put stuff out there, and if you do you should be careful to separate fact from opinion, and back your opinions up. Has he done that, really? I don't think so. As for being "important" - I think Mr. Sadler is only interested in the circle of people immediately around him when it comes to making decisions. None of us should flatter ourselves otherwise.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
To be honest… my attitude when I heard about the comment towards those asking for refunds, was kind of “Just fuck off now and save us all the bother”.

I’d like to hope it was not a genuine reflection of the attitude at the top of the Club.

Treat people like consumers they’ll behave like consumers …. End of !
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I think it was certainly a pr mistep at the time.

Although I can completely understand when people threatened court etc, when in the boards eyes they are turning round what was an almost sunken ship in a pandemic themselves. It was tough for all sides.

But it was badly worded.
 
Blackpool is just a standard corporate club like most clubs in the UK though.

Most of our fans just think we're run differently or special just because it's miles different from the previous regime.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I’m not arsed about meeting Sadler in the excelsior or anywhere else lol. I was just emphasising the difference in approach.

The ticket pricing makes no real odds to me either, because I can afford it.

I can however recognise that the shift towards a more commercially driven approach can be perceived as cold and less fan focused.
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You’d prefer a cocktail or a nice glass of Red with him?
 
I don't feel hated.

In fact entirely the opposite.

Sadler has expressed his gratitude on many occasions over the last couple of years

Poor choice of words from Lee and completely undeserved imo

If we were top of the league this discussion would not be happening
 
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