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BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I used to say the same thing myself....And it’s a common theme from most home workers.

The issue, however is that your office working colleagues are forced to field more than their fair share of the hassle that you are ducking and you will start to lose touch with changes and developments in your sector over time.

The overall level of skill and competence within the workforce then starts to drop over time as collaborative learning and development opportunities are limited.
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You make good points but, to clarify, by “hassle” I meant non-work related issues and those that I don’t need to be included in. I talk to my colleagues all the time but find that when working remotely people only raise important issues and they are kept short and to the point and only involve those that are needed.
 
Woolly Mammoth said:
You make good points but, to clarify, by “hassle” I meant non-work related issues and those that I don’t need to be included in. I talk to my colleagues all the time but find that when working remotely people only raise important issues and they are kept short and to the point and only involve those that are needed.
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But how do you know you don’t need to be involved/included?

You see in my experience, it’s in that environment, where the sparks of magic happen. The kind of thing that makes the difference between a successful functioning business and a business full of functioning individuals.

In football analogy terms it’s the difference between a Blackpool under Ollie or the recent one under Simon Grayson.

From an employer perspective perhaps some of us view the stuff you feel you don’t need to be included in as a vital ingredient in the overall long term success of our business.

See to me, I’d view that lack of participation and contribution to the overall team environment as a negative, rather than a positive. Certainly a moderate upside in individual productivity wouldn’t make up for the overall loss of function within the business as a whole.
 
I’ve been based at home for the past seven years. I’ve put based as I normally go out to see clients 3 days a week but obviously that is not permitted now especially as my clients are the NHS. They won’t even see patients so no chance of a business meeting. So now I am operating in a virtual telesales role which is as boring as hell. Business hasn’t dropped off though. If you can’t carry out your normal job at home then get back to the office
 
Woolly Mammoth said:
I’ve been working from home for 2 years and I’m far more productive as I don’t have dickheads hassling me all day. And I’m more than happy to incur the additional energy costs as I’m saving £300 per month travel costs and god knows how much commuting time.
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I've been working from home since March and saved thousands through not commuting. Plus you spend more time working because it's from getting up to switching off, with no trip to the pub at lunch.
 
Speaking from experience (in the mortgage industry) productivity is terrible in comparison to precovid levels. Lenders are taking weeks instead of days to review applications and I’m sure this is down to not being able to handle the same volume whilst stakeholders are working from home. Personally I did it for the first couple of years, at first it’s great but you start to realise that large swaths of your day are spend distracted doing other tasks, you lose focus. Throw having to take care of bored, restless kids for 5 months into the mix and it’s a receipt for disaster for the economy. Hence why the government are changing tact.
 
Wizaard said:
I've been working from home since March and saved thousands through not commuting. Plus you spend more time working because it's from getting up to switching off, with no trip to the pub at lunch.
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When do you start shooting 'nine out of ten cats' again, Wiz ?
 
I agree with some of the points made on this thread and disagree with others but all contributors have made good points without a hint of personal abuse.

Throw in a bit of humour - I think - from x3 who I think makes great points throughout and we have a great thread.

I know that's how it should be all the time but similar threads often descend into the usual suspects against the usual suspects - yes I am as guilty as the next man - without any or very little thought provoking discussion.
 
southshorepool said:
Quite amusing that in the latest yougov poll, the only age group that recorded a majority in favour of going back to the office was the over 65's.
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Employees who want to work from home tend to do so for their own good and not so that the organisation as a whole can benefit from a perceived - and usually non existent - increased productivity.

Edit to add - I meant to say in my opinion and apologies for the sweeping generalisation but I did say "tend to". As you were.
 
There’s a whole heap of interesting points on this thread.

The thing that always sticks out to me is how much capitalists want socialism when they are losing money...

Regarding wfh, it’s clearly not a long term solution for all, but it works some of the time for certain elements of office based jobs. It doesn’t work well for commercial discussions/interactions between suppliers and producers and there’s clearly a lack of developed relationships that will be a result of not spending time with colleagues.

My office is smack bang in the middle of London. The ceo has acknowledged that most people will struggle to get into it with heavy exposure to public transport- something our government tells us to avoid. The ceo was also a big opponent of home working pre-Covid, he’s now a big convert to it. I think it’s pretty clear which parts of it he likes and which parts of business costs he’ll be looking to scale back on when things are back to ‘normal’. WFH shouldn’t be an excuse for saving and pushing costs back to the employee.
 
My credit card was hacked, had to ring their security. He said he was working from home so I asked where that was , the reply, South East Asia.
 
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