Gary Lineker

Matesrates said:
He‘s not a brain surgeon, he’s a TV presenter, it’s a ridiculous amount of money, he’s no better or worse than any other presenter.
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Topping the BBC rich list, along with a shed loads of other over privileged white people. I don't here him moaning about inclusivity there, Hypocrite.
 
Who gives a toss what his political persuasions are when he's presenting a football programme?
He does tweet some funny comments though that seem to wind a few of a certain persuasion up.
 
Scaramanga said:
Topping the BBC rich list, along with a shed loads of other over privileged white people. I don't here him moaning about inclusivity there, Hypocrite.
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It is allowed for a well paid person to criticise a system in which powerful people repress the underlings in order to benefit themselves.
 
gjr69 said:
I think it's a myth that people with left wing views begrudge people being well paid. I'm all for people being well paid, people with special skills and talents should obviously be paid more.
What I don't like is a worker being paid 25000, a manager 40,000, area manager 70,000 and then the ceo getting 750,000 plus bonuses!
Where is the logical progression in salaries?
As for Lineker it's rather amusing to see the righties up in arms about his views when they never ever question the large number of people who earn inflated wages and actually have an effect on their lives.
I suppose its similar to them blaming asylum seekers and people on benefits for the countries problems and not the people who have actually been running the country for the last 12 years!!
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gjr69

We clearly have different views on matters.

Obviously you do begrudge the CEOs being well paid though, that's not a problem but I just find it hard to reconcile with your statement that you are all for the skilled and talented being well paid !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Edit to add: Are you not concerned about the lack of "logical progression" in salaries at the BBC ? Asking for a friend :)
 
gjr69 said:
You have to give a reason and the decent thing to do as a bloke is to go down the unreasonable behaviour route and apply it to yourself. You'd be a bit of dickhead if you wouldn't do that for your wife and mother of your kids when the simple truth is that you no longer wanted to be together.
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Well, if that IS the case, then I owe him an apology. He’s still as annoying as hell though. Too vocal and I don’t agree with a lot of his views..
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Yes, I remember Schofield winning the Golden Boot and scoring El Classico hat tricks.
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😄 You know what I mean. A "nice" guy who is painfully on message but has another side to him. I'm not saying he wanks off tramps or is cruel to animals or anything but, y'know, he's the sort that would. You've got to be naturally wary of these types.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
gjr69

We clearly have different views on matters.

Obviously you do begrudge the CEOs being well paid though, that's not a problem but I just find it hard to reconcile with your statement that you are all for the skilled and talented being well paid !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Edit to add: Are you not concerned about the lack of "logical progression" in salaries at the BBC ? Asking for a friend :)
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SEASIDE2020 said:
gjr69

We clearly have different views on matters.

Obviously you do begrudge the CEOs being well paid though, that's not a problem but I just find it hard to reconcile with your statement that you are all for the skilled and talented being well paid !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Edit to add: Are you not concerned about the lack of "logical progression" in salaries at the BBC ? Asking for a friend :)
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Maybe my English skills have let me down or maybe you haven't comprehended my point.
I am in favour of the skilled and talented being well paid but particularly in the world of business why are those on the top rung paid maybe 10 times those a step or two down?
It makes no sense. Where I work the top bosses change every 3 or 4 years, the new one comes in and tries to change much of what the last one did. If the last one was so good why does so much have to change? Fact is they weren't that good and in all liklihood neither is the new one but they get massive salaries and bonuses out of line with the rest of the company.
If the ceo earned maybe 250,000 and received the same annual pay rise as the rest of us in percentage terms I have no complaints.
He is more talented than most of us I presume so deserves it but he doesn't deserve over a million a year with bonuses.
As for Lineker the same sort of principle applies, he deserves more than an electrician at the BBC but does he deserve 1.25 million more, I don't think so, and his personal views are nothing to do with that, they are just his views.
My basic thoughts are reward those who deserve it but keep it sensible as the happiest societies are the ones where the smallest wealth gaps exist.
I hope that makes things clearer for you and your friend.
 
Seasider1887 said:
Go and read your Guardian and while your at it apply to house some. I heard Gary has them living at his house eating a certain brand of crisp he advertises despite working for a BBC many pay for including the most vulnerable pensioners. No I am not his biggest fan. It’s not me being racist because hi is a man of colour now apparently. Next he will be marching at Gay pride. That must be worth some virtue signalling points.
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I haven't got the space, time or money to put them up but I'm happy for a portion of my taxes to go towards helping people, be that vulnerable pensioners or asylum seekers, good use of my money.
As for reading the Guardian don't know what that has to do with anything, I read the Daily Mail aswell, I don't spend half my life as a virtue signalling, lefty snow flake and the other half as a bigoted gammon!!
They are just opinions and views among many others that I read and consider.
 
gjr69 said:
Maybe my English skills have let me down or maybe you haven't comprehended my point.
I am in favour of the skilled and talented being well paid but particularly in the world of business why are those on the top rung paid maybe 10 times those a step or two down?
It makes no sense. Where I work the top bosses change every 3 or 4 years, the new one comes in and tries to change much of what the last one did. If the last one was so good why does so much have to change? Fact is they weren't that good and in all liklihood neither is the new one but they get massive salaries and bonuses out of line with the rest of the company.
If the ceo earned maybe 250,000 and received the same annual pay rise as the rest of us in percentage terms I have no complaints.
He is more talented than most of us I presume so deserves it but he doesn't deserve over a million a year with bonuses.
As for Lineker the same sort of principle applies, he deserves more than an electrician at the BBC but does he deserve 1.25 million more, I don't think so, and his personal views are nothing to do with that, they are just his views.
My basic thoughts are reward those who deserve it but keep it sensible as the happiest societies are the ones where the smallest wealth gaps exist.
I hope that makes things clearer for you and your friend.
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gjr69

You didn't have to make yourself clear, I fully understood that you had a problem with CEOs earning far more than other employees but the market will decide why a certain CEO earns £1m rather than £250k and not your goodself.

Good luck in your quest for happiness but there may be less for you to share in utopia as you will be less likely to attract skilled senior staff.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
gjr69

You didn't have to make yourself clear, I fully understood that you had a problem with CEOs earning far more than other employees but the market will decide why a certain CEO earns £1m rather than £250k and not your goodself.

Good luck in your quest for happiness but there may be less for you to share in utopia as you will be less likely to attract skilled senior staff.
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The market is bent for CEOs at the major companies, the sort of situation that Starmer should deal with but won't.
Not going to change my life one way or the other but the economy of the UK would benefit if across the board the huge amounts given to one person were shared more equally.
Give £500,000 to a millionaire and he sticks most of it away somewhere for a rainy day, give £500 to a thousand regular people and in all likelihood they spend it in their local economies thus benefitting many people.
Like you said earlier we won't agree, you think the CEOs are exceptionally skilled and deserve a disproportionate amount to their staff, I think the workers deserve more and the whole economy would benefit if they were rewarded.
Doesn't make me a communist I just question the abilities of those at the top and I know that the market isn't open and fair when it comes to their salaries, it is a gravy train that they will never derail.
Anyway I'm off to work now, I assume you will be in your luxury penthouse sleeping off the excesses of your capitalist lifestyle, or maybe just been up all night trying to hide money from the taxman😉, either way have a good weekend.
 
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