Grimshaw

I would also drop him which I can't believe I'm saying. Both goals against Cheltenham he was poor positionally, 2 goals against Posh he could of done better especially the free kick, and then it was awful keeping for both their 2nd and 3rd last night. Add on top of that he is non-existent from crosses similar to Maxwell. He needs a wake-up call and maybe O'Donnell coming in for him may do that.
 
It's not great singling out players and the keeper is one of those positions where you are out on your own as it is. Grimshaw is a fantastic lad and he's had periods in nets where he's been absolutely brilliant and kept us in the game.

For whatever reason though he's suffered a dip in form recently and has possibly started to cost us.

I have said previously that I thought we probably should have been looking for a better No1 for the longer term, although I also think Grimshaw deserves every opportunity to be successful. I'm not sure whether or not O'Donnell is really up to the task, but I would certainly consider a change if things don't improve soon.
 
It's not great singling out players and the keeper is one of those positions where you are out on your own as it is. Grimshaw is a fantastic lad and he's had periods in nets where he's been absolutely brilliant and kept us in the game.

For whatever reason though he's suffered a dip in form recently and has possibly started to cost us.

I have said previously that I thought we probably should have been looking for a better No1 for the longer term, although I also think Grimshaw deserves every opportunity to be successful. I'm not sure whether or not O'Donnell is really up to the task, but I would certainly consider a change if things don't improve soon.
Fair response, there will be a change on Saturday but we can't keep ignoring the fact Grimshaw is playing poorly. Yes, the defence in front of him needs to improve but pretty much every shot on target ends up as a goal. I'm not sure on the save %s but they can't be great for the last few games.
 
Fair response, there will be a change on Saturday but we can't keep ignoring the fact Grimshaw is playing poorly. Yes, the defence in front of him needs to improve but pretty much every shot on target ends up as a goal. I'm not sure on the save %s but they can't be great for the last few games.
No we can't ignore it and he's plumb bottom of the rankings in terms of Save%. It's strange, because he's been consistently good in terms of shot stopping for the most part.
 
To drop hom would be highly reactive and wrong headed

He's a good keeper and as good as any in this league

Those are my thoughts as well - what good will dropping him do? I'm sure he'll think he could have done better with some of the recent goals conceded, but he can't put it right if he's on the bench.
 
To drop hom would be highly reactive and wrong headed

He's a good keeper and as good as any in this league
Critchley isn’t reactive. He has his favourites. I like Grimmy but he’s been iffy last few games. No chance he’ll get dropped. He’s Critchley’s number 1
 
It’s possible he’s lacking competition. When Maxwell Was the No 1 and he had to fight for his place he thrived. Perhaps he just isn’t challenged enough at present. I’m not suggesting it’s deliberate but it’s just some people’s nature that they perform better under pressure.
 
Critchley isn’t reactive. He has his favourites. I like Grimmy but he’s been iffy last few games. No chance he’ll get dropped. He’s Critchley’s number 1
He will be rested on Saturday along with many others.
However a defeat will cause meltdown on here against Critchley.
 
His shot save percentage this year is 2nd lowest in League One at 60.8%
Worrying considering you would usually say that's his strength
I figured as much, he needs a big performance at Bolton or he has to be dropped. We can't keep singling out Oakley-Boothe, Carey, whoever and glossing over a player who is letting the side down most weeks. This is coming from someone who is a big admirer of Grimmy but we can't just ignore bad performances forever.
 
The other top keepers in the team are hovering around the 80% mark. That's a lot of goals over the course of a season.
Hopefully he can get back on track and discover some form as he's costing us points currently.
 
No we can't ignore it and he's plumb bottom of the rankings in terms of Save%. It's strange, because he's been consistently good in terms of shot stopping for the most part.
He fumbled more than one effort last night, one resulting in a goal.

Having said that, at pitch level, the advertising hoardings made visibility very difficult, especially with us playing in black. I thought the lighting was poor
 
He fumbled more than one effort last night, one resulting in a goal.

Having said that, at pitch level, the advertising hoardings made visibility very difficult, especially with us playing in black. I thought the lighting was poor
Unfortunately it’s happened quite a few times recently, so I’m not sure we can blame the lights.

That said, I think the current problems do extend beyond the keeper.
 
He fumbled more than one effort last night, one resulting in a goal.

Having said that, at pitch level, the advertising hoardings made visibility very difficult, especially with us playing in black. I thought the lighting was poor
Thought it was just me about the lights when the ball was in the air after a hoof sometimes I couldn't see it.
 
Don't blame him , he,s going through a bad spell. Blame the goal keeping coach!! Has Banks ever improved any of our goalies? Maybe time to move an old stalwart on ?
 
As said elsewhere I think Maxwell would have got slaughtered last season if he had put let some of the recent goals in that Grimmy has..that said he still has a little bit of credit left in the bank and probably should get another chance to improve…one more howler and out for me though. Lest we forget Maxwell was magnificent the last time we were promoted from this league. Grimmy I’d not at that standard at present.
 
I don't understand where this drop Grimmy is coming from and all goalies let in goals .I actually don't think he has made any obvious mistakes ,but we hounded out Maxwell so lets see who is next we can pick on.
 
I don't understand where this drop Grimmy is coming from and all goalies let in goals .I actually don't think he has made any obvious mistakes ,but we hounded out Maxwell so lets see who is next we can pick on.
Obvious mistakes, have a look at Cheltenham's 2nd, Peterborough's 2nd his side of the wall, 2nd and 3rd last night. There's 4 I can think of where he should have done better. It really isn't about hounding him, he isn't immune from criticism. The point remains he needs to play better or deserves to be dropped.
 
I would also drop him which I can't believe I'm saying. Both goals against Cheltenham he was poor positionally, 2 goals against Posh he could of done better especially the free kick, and then it was awful keeping for both their 2nd and 3rd last night. Add on top of that he is non-existent from crosses similar to Maxwell. He needs a wake-up call and maybe O'Donnell coming in for him may do that.
If I was in Steve Banks position I would think I was letting the club down with how our first team keeper is performing .
Against Peterborough he didn't even get the wall sorted out.
A lot to work on I think?
Unless it is Steve Banks that is the problem?
 
Their third goal was a great strike but why weren’t we diving in to block it and keep the three points ?
Decent strike it may have been but Grimmy's position was poor, as was his effort to save it. The ball ended up hitting the net 3ft inside the bar and post. The lad gets his name chanted every week, so no one is giving him the abuse Maxwell got. As for defenders getting blocks in, I totally agree, Husband decided to keep his position rather than track his man. Neither Marv or Penno reacted anywhere near quick enough. Poor on a lot of levels, and that includes the through ball from Carey that was far too easily intercepted.
 
Obvious mistakes, have a look at Cheltenham's 2nd, Peterborough's 2nd his side of the wall, 2nd and 3rd last night. There's 4 I can think of where he should have done better. It really isn't about hounding him, he isn't immune from criticism. The point remains he needs to play better or deserves to be dropped.
Its your opinion that its his fault for all these goals and that is all it is ,your opinion. Anyway if you think that our second or third string goalies are going to do better then we could do with what Critchley has done with the rest of the team and keep changing our goalies . We have seen how that works with the rest of the team.
 
Its your opinion that its his fault for all these goals and that is all it is ,your opinion. Anyway if you think that our second or third string goalies are going to do better then we could do with what Critchley has done with the rest of the team and keep changing our goalies . We have seen how that works with the rest of the team.
A blind man can see Grimmy isn't in the best form. If you can't see that, more fool you. I think the fact he doesn't have tougher competition is a problem, just like any player, if they're out of form we need a squad that is capable of suitable replacements.
 
Its your opinion that its his fault for all these goals and that is all it is ,your opinion. Anyway if you think that our second or third string goalies are going to do better then we could do with what Critchley has done with the rest of the team and keep changing our goalies . We have seen how that works with the rest of the team.
In fairness, the opinions are also backed up by the stats, so he's almost certainly not performing to his best and saving as many shots as he ought to be.
 
Think grimmy is better than odonnell.
I think its the 3 at the back that offers him no protection.
Totally agree, we bring Connolly on to offer the team greater protection defensively and rather than play a flat back 4 with Connolly at right back with two CHs and Husband at left back we have to have this ridiculous set up of three at the back. If you watch the Marriott goal there are three defenders against two attackers with Marv struggling to mark no-one and the other two all over the place. Why not just keep it simple and play four with everyone in their correct position, not straying forward and leaving gaps. It's just basic defending and keeping your shape.
 
A good goalie, even in a poor defensive team will himself play well
The fact that Grimmy is starting to perform like Maxwell would seem to point the finger at Banks
He will no doubt be rested as a matter of course for the cup game as will several players
We need to look at the rest of our squad not just the keeper
 
A good goalie, even in a poor defensive team will himself play well
The fact that Grimmy is starting to perform like Maxwell would seem to point the finger at Banks
He will no doubt be rested as a matter of course for the cup game as will several players
We need to look at the rest of our squad not just the keeper
The thread wasn't to single out Grimmy, I think he is a very good keeper, I do think he has struggled of late. We've had threads on Carey, Ekpiteta, Oakley-Boothe, Morgan, etc discussing their performance levels, so I see it as no different to those. The shot save percentage statistics aren't great, in fact they're poor but statistics alone don't always tell the full story. Take the Derby game, they were clinical didn't really have loads of shots but those that they did he had no chance with. He would have been rested this weekend anyway but maybe 10 days of solid work on the training ground will do him good and get him focused and up to his usual levels.
 
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