Hardie

The only time he played for us (Papa John cup games?🤔) he played alongside Joe Nuttall says it all. I thought he looked a decent player when l saw him but what do l know 🤔
 
TangerineBayern said:
The only time he played for us (Papa John cup games?🤔) he played alongside Joe Nuttall says it all. I thought he looked a decent player when l saw him but what do l know 🤔
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I saw him play in a few games and miss some glorious chances. He's improved, but he was rubbish for us.
 
Wizaard said:
I saw him play in a few games and miss some glorious chances. He's improved, but he was rubbish for us.
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Can't agree Wiz, he looked like player who had potential especially with his pace and ability to close down but was never given a chance apart from playing alongside Nuttall. Be interesting to see what his market value is now as he seems to be doing alright in the Championship.
 
TangerineBayern said:
Can't agree Wiz, he looked like player who had potential especially with his pace and ability to close down but was never given a chance apart from playing alongside Nuttall. Be interesting to see what his market value is now as he seems to be doing alright in the Championship.
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Hardie or Joseph? Or as it was at the time, Hardie or Yates? We haven't missed him.
 
Player doesn't work out a club but does elsewhere non shocker.

Our club is littered with those types over the years some like Charlie Adam become legends.

So couldn't give a toss about Hardie good luck to the lad but did Rotherham forum mention Jerry Yates every time he scored for us probably not.
 
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Hardie looked like a player who was playing for a different team than the other 10.

I.e. he didn't suit what we were doing under Larry.

Don't think he played at all under Critch, not even pre season.
 
poolseasider said:
Player doesn't work out a club but does elsewhere non shocker.

Our club is littered with those types over the years some like Charlie Adam become legends.

So couldn't give a toss about Hardie good luck to the lad but did Barnsley's forum mention Jerry Yates every time he scored for us probably not.
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Jerry never played for Barnsley so probably not !
 
td53 said:
Hardie looked like a player who was playing for a different team than the other 10.

I.e. he didn't suit what we were doing under Larry.

Don't think he played at all under Critch, not even pre season.
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Jerry signed on 21st July Hardie was gone 29th.

They was the COVID season which didn't get going until September and Friendlies done in August.
 
Grayson refused to give him a chance after he scored a hattrick in the reserves. Then he sent him out on loan where Hardie thrived. I remember because I was fuming he'd been sent out. By the time Critchley came in, Hardie didn't want to be here and we respected that and let him go for a fee. I remember Critchley saying he'd spoken to him and tried to get him to stay, but he was adamant that he wanted to leave. So him leaving was on Grayson and no one else.
 
I remember this forum and twatter going into meltdown because he wasn't being played and it was even worse when he went out on loan. Grayson was a dinosaur of a manger and we lost a really good striker because he was so set in his ways.v
 
He didn’t play well for us so didn’t warrant a place in the team. Happy he’s found some form elsewhere.
 
I can only remember him v Accy away when he had a one on one well saved that he probably should’ve scored…

The only other time was that grim Bolton away game that was 0-0 when Grayson brought him on on the right wing, clueless. Probably gave the team a couple of days off like he loved the lazy bastard- Grayson that is.

Don’t think Hardie ever got a proper chance because we’d spent more on Nuttall (who couldn’t be arsed being a footballer) but he’s definitely taken it at Plymouth 👏🏻
 
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He was hardly pulling up trees after he left, 5 in 43 in 2020/21, would anyone have been screaming for him to start ahead of Jerry, Ellis or Madine based on that?
 
As a side note, I Googled how Joe Nuttall was getting on - 8 goals in 35 games for Oldham in the National League. Just shows, if we all had a crystal ball as at the time I remember thinking he looked the part and just needed to click, before realising he was a waster and stealing a contract off us. I remember thinking Hardie looked sharp but a bit lightweight. How things change as players develop...
 
I bleed Tangerine said:
Grayson refused to give him a chance after he scored a hattrick in the reserves. Then he sent him out on loan where Hardie thrived. I remember because I was fuming he'd been sent out. By the time Critchley came in, Hardie didn't want to be here and we respected that and let him go for a fee. I remember Critchley saying he'd spoken to him and tried to get him to stay, but he was adamant that he wanted to leave. So him leaving was on Grayson and no one else.
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Yep, Grayson shipped him out to Plymouth, he helped get them promoted from League 2 and by the time Critchley came in Hardie’s heart was in Plymouth.

Hope we put a sell-on clause in the deal when we sold him permanently to Plymouth 🤞
 
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Critchley got rid of him not Grayson
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Critchley said that the lad wanted to go to Plymouth, he'd asked him to stay but he wasn't going to make someone stay here that wanted to be somewhere else. Which is the exact right thing to do. If he had been given a proper chance before being loaned out then he would have stayed. His leaving was 100% on Grayson and no one else. I get you hate Critchley, but this one was really not his fault.
 
Kyle Seasider said:
Critchley said that the lad wanted to go to Plymouth, he'd asked him to stay but he wasn't going to make someone stay here that wanted to be somewhere else. Which is the exact right thing to do. If he had been given a proper chance before being loaned out then he would have stayed. His leaving was 100% on Grayson and no one else. I get you hate Critchley, but this one was really not his fault.
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Strange that as when i spoke to Ryan Hardie at Westmorland services during his Plymouth loan he said he wanted to come back to Blackpool and impress the new manager

Must have been lying
 
Kyle Seasider said:
Critchley said that the lad wanted to go to Plymouth, he'd asked him to stay but he wasn't going to make someone stay here that wanted to be somewhere else. Which is the exact right thing to do. If he had been given a proper chance before being loaned out then he would have stayed. His leaving was 100% on Grayson and no one else. I get you hate Critchley, but this one was really not his fault.
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I'm sure he was also in the last year of his contract and it was obvious that he wasn't going to be signing a new one. So the choice was, force a player to stay for the year that doesn't want to be here or get some cash for him.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Strange that as when i spoke to Ryan Hardie at Westmorland services during his Plymouth loan he said he wanted to come back to Blackpool and impress the new manager

Must have been lying
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I'm only going off what was said by Critchley and the club when Hardie was sold. Maybe he had a change of mind inbetween speaking to you and the end of the season, maybe the club was lying, who knows.
 
Nuttall appears to have had mental health issues, which I hope are behind him and he can get is career going as a late bloomer. Hardie didn't work out for us. I tend to think Grayson may have been a big reason for that, but it so often happens both ways i.e. an unfancied player goes to a club and thrives and a highly rated signing fails before looking a different player somewhere else.

It's the same drum I always bang on, that real life football is not Champ Manager. It's complicated with pesky things like individual and group human behaviours messing up the best laid plans of mice and men.

Plymouth's gain was our loss, but it's the other way round with so many players, e.g. Stephen Crainey or Jerry or even Rhodes.

Personally I don't lose any sleep or fume over the decision to move him on.
 
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