Has the law changed

I nearly hit one tonight as I was reversing into my drive, he could have seen I was pulling in, but didn't wait, I caught a glimpse of him at the last minute & stopped, as he swerved into my drive & pedalled off. Probably about 14. No doubt I would have been blamed.
 
Sooty59 said:
I nearly hit one tonight as I was reversing into my drive, he could have seen I was pulling in, but didn't wait, I caught a glimpse of him at the last minute & stopped, as he swerved into my drive & pedalled off. Probably about 14. No doubt I would have been blamed.
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That's because the law is diminishing self-responsibility in cases such as you describe.
 
The law has changed and so apparently has the Highway Code. I believe that cyclists get more rights. I bet nobody on here knows the new rules.
 
Cyclists tend to ignore the law and ride on footpaths. No problem with children as it's the safest place for them to be, but adults ... grow up, if you're not clever enough to ride on a road (where you should be) then walk!
The law states:
Section 72 of the Highway Act 1835 prohibits ‘wilfully riding’ on footpaths, which refers to the path at the side of a carriageway. The original law from 1835 doesn’t refer to bicycles or cyclists (as bicycles weren’t in such common use in England as they are today) and it doesn’t mention pavements - as this is a modern word. However, the interpretation is clear - it’s not legal for a cyclist to ride their bike on the pavement. The Highway Code also states: “You must not cycle on a pavement.”
The offence of riding a bike on the pavement is punishable by an on-the-spot fine, a fixed penalty notice of £30. This is charged under Schedule 3 and Section 51 of the Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988.
The Highway Code reinforces this legislation and cyclists can only ride on 'designated' cycle lanes.
 
Brett scores for fun said:
Cyclists tend to ignore the law and ride on footpaths. No problem with children as it's the safest place for them to be, but adults ... grow up, if you're not clever enough to ride on a road (where you should be) then walk!
The law states:
Section 72 of the Highway Act 1835 prohibits ‘wilfully riding’ on footpaths, which refers to the path at the side of a carriageway. The original law from 1835 doesn’t refer to bicycles or cyclists (as bicycles weren’t in such common use in England as they are today) and it doesn’t mention pavements - as this is a modern word. However, the interpretation is clear - it’s not legal for a cyclist to ride their bike on the pavement. The Highway Code also states: “You must not cycle on a pavement.”
The offence of riding a bike on the pavement is punishable by an on-the-spot fine, a fixed penalty notice of £30. This is charged under Schedule 3 and Section 51 of the Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988.
The Highway Code reinforces this legislation and cyclists can only ride on 'designated' cycle lanes.thee to
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The fault being the Police tend to turn a blind eye,a lot of hazel to prosecute.
 
John40 said:
The fault being the Police tend to turn a blind eye,a lot of hazel to prosecute.
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Worse than that, I was cycling to the shops one evening and my rear light decides to start playing up, I was pulled over by the police to inform me of such and they then told me to ride on the pavement. Personally, I have no problems with certain people cycling on the footway as long as they are careful, it's the lunatics who ride on the path as if they are riding on the road that is the real problem.
 
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EagleDay said:
Worse than that, I was cycling to the shops one evening and my rear light decide to start playing up, I was pulled over by the police to inform me of such and they then told me to ride on the pavement. Personally, I have no problems with certain people cycling on the footway as long as they are careful, it's the lunatics who ride on the path as if they are riding on the road that is the real problem.
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then nicked you 200 yards up the road for riding on the footpath and riding without a rear light double points for their totting up score 🤣
🤣🤣
 
As a cycle and e-scooter enthusiast, I thought I would give my 2 pence.

I love riding on the pavement, day or night and always no lights. It makes the ride all the more fun dodging pedestrians and making drivers guess what you might do next, if they can see you that is. Will I hop off the curb or will I not, will I cross a road without looking, damn sure I will.

My favourite is scaring the sh1t out of pedestrians who have no idea you are coming up behind then. It's brilliant.

Without these little pleasures I would merely be peddaling along with no real joy.

Please try to see it from our point of view on our bikes and e-scooters. Boys just want to have fun. There is no better thrill than a near death experience.

Maybe give it a try and see what you think 👍🏻 🚴
 
EagleDay said:
Worse than that, I was cycling to the shops one evening and my rear light decides to start playing up, I was pulled over by the police to inform me of such and they then told me to ride on the pavement. Personally, I have no problems with certain people cycling on the footway as long as they are careful, it's the lunatics who ride on the path as if they are riding on the road that is the real problem.
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was it a pink bike with no crossbar?.
 
TowerPower said:
As a cycle and e-scooter enthusiast, I thought I would give my 2 pence.

I love riding on the pavement, day or night and always no lights. It makes the ride all the more fun dodging pedestrians and making drivers guess what you might do next, if they can see you that is. Will I hop off the curb or will I not, will I cross a road without looking, damn sure I will.

My favourite is scaring the sh1t out of pedestrians who have no idea you are coming up behind then. It's brilliant.

Without these little pleasures I would merely be peddaling along with no real joy.

Please try to see it from our point of view on our bikes and e-scooters. Boys just want to have fun. There is no better thrill than a near death experience.

Maybe give it a try and see what you think 👍🏻 🚴
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I could shove you onto the path of an oncoming bus. Would that be a larf?
 
Tower - when you progress try the old kick 'em on the 4rse as your passing. That gets them right at it.

Used to be tram hopping - Love the old electric scooter me.
 
There are some real idiots about on these scooters.
Only yesterday, on Blackpool Old Road, P-le-Fylde, one guy went past towards town, doing over 20, and on the wrong side of the road.
What an idiot, he soon switched to the other side when cars came bombing down, as they do on that stretch.
Loads of young people on them daily going past the house.
 
I find for nuisance cyclists that a good short bar or piece of wood rammed through the front wheel as they pass makes excellent comedy. You just wait for them to turn up and away you go. The addition of giving them a mark out of ten whilst their lying on the floor for their crash style gives added satisfaction!
 
Brett scores for fun said:
Cyclists tend to ignore the law and ride on footpaths. No problem with children as it's the safest place for them to be, but adults ... grow up, if you're not clever enough to ride on a road (where you should be) then walk!
The law states:
Section 72 of the Highway Act 1835 prohibits ‘wilfully riding’ on footpaths, which refers to the path at the side of a carriageway. The original law from 1835 doesn’t refer to bicycles or cyclists (as bicycles weren’t in such common use in England as they are today) and it doesn’t mention pavements - as this is a modern word. However, the interpretation is clear - it’s not legal for a cyclist to ride their bike on the pavement. The Highway Code also states: “You must not cycle on a pavement.”
The offence of riding a bike on the pavement is punishable by an on-the-spot fine, a fixed penalty notice of £30. This is charged under Schedule 3 and Section 51 of the Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988.
The Highway Code reinforces this legislation and cyclists can only ride on 'designated' cycle lanes.
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As a keen cyclist myself, I totally agree...
Kids I can understand because they don't totally understand the dangers of car drivers - for example they don't appreciate just how difficult it is, as a car driver, to see a cyclist in dark clothing on a dark night with no lights. And they're young, they make mistakes all the time etc - so roads can be a bit unsafe for those kids who go around in a daze (most?? 🤪)
But adults?? No excuse at all for cycling on the pavements and should be hung, drawn and quartered.
 
BlackpoolWolves said:
As a keen cyclist myself, I totally agree...
Kids I can understand because they don't totally understand the dangers of car drivers - for example they don't appreciate just how difficult it is, as a car driver, to see a cyclist in dark clothing on a dark night with no lights. And they're young, they make mistakes all the time etc - so roads can be a bit unsafe for those kids who go around in a daze (most?? 🤪)
But adults?? No excuse at all for cycling on the pavements and should be hung, drawn and quartered.
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No excuse?

The reason cyclists ride on footways is because of their general belief that roads are unsafe, you've got knob heads driving a tonne of metal speeding in residential areas, running red lights, using mobile phones, close passing etc.

Reallocate road space from cars to bikes and then there's no excuse.
 
Walthamstow_Seasider said:
No excuse?

The reason cyclists ride on footways is because of their general belief that roads are unsafe, you've got knob heads driving a tonne of metal speeding in residential areas, running red lights, using mobile phones, close passing etc.

Reallocate road space from cars to bikes and then there's no excuse.
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"close passing" to bloody true, cycling back from Sainsbury's this morning I turned left with a car waiting to turn out and some prat couldn't wait for me to complete the turn so she decided to cut me up, shame I hadn't got my helmet cam.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
It's the dicks on scooters that need chinning. Kids fair enough, have some fun, but grown men can fuck off. Bloody dozens on the prom, have some self respect.
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I feel exactly the same about cyclists no problem with kids, bit some 40 year old on fuckin mountain bike ploughing down the middle of the pavement can piss off......rant over.
 
Walthamstow_Seasider said:
No excuse?

The reason cyclists ride on footways is because of their general belief that roads are unsafe, you've got knob heads driving a tonne of metal speeding in residential areas, running red lights, using mobile phones, close passing etc.

Reallocate road space from cars to bikes and then there's no excuse.
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Nope not having that, if your not competent to ride a bike on the road, don't ride a bike. Next it will be motorbikes on the pavement because the roads are full of cars.
 
Ok. So, if you ride on the road then stick to the road rules and ride on the correct side of the road etc no matter if bike or scooter/E Scooter (you need insuranceetc on an e-scooter). People are genuinely scared of riding on the road because of how drivers are these days and you can't blame them with the amount of stats relating to cyclists being hurt due to driver error or impatience.

How about we all get on and protect each other. Cycling on a pavement you should slow right down to overtake a pedestrian or even go on the road and pedestrians we should also allow the cyclist to over take. That way we would all get on and everyone would feel safe and more importantly.. survive.

A cyclist that isn't confident on a road will make mistakes. Mistakes that could cost a life or even multiple lives. Let's not knock people who aren't confident enough to ride on a road. Let's praise people for actually getting out on a bike and not just driving somewhere.
 
TowerPower said:
Ok. So, if you ride on the road then stick to the road rules and ride on the correct side of the road etc no matter if bike or scooter/E Scooter (you need insuranceetc on an e-scooter). People are genuinely scared of riding on the road because of how drivers are these days and you can't blame them with the amount of stats relating to cyclists being hurt due to driver error or impatience.

How about we all get on and protect each other. Cycling on a pavement you should slow right down to overtake a pedestrian or even go on the road and pedestrians we should also allow the cyclist to over take. That way we would all get on and everyone would feel safe and more importantly.. survive.

A cyclist that isn't confident on a road will make mistakes. Mistakes that could cost a life or even multiple lives. Let's not knock people who aren't confident enough to ride on a road. Let's praise people for actually getting out on a bike and not just driving somewhere.
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Too much common sense there, Tower.
 
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