Honest assessment of last season's loans?

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FY16JJ

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Now the dust has settled and we can all look back at last season, how do you feel we did in the loan market.
Personally I felt it was the classic - club reputation rather than player reputation 'they're from City/Arsenal/Wolves they must be good'.
I think sometimes we get blinded by where the players have come from rather than the attributes of the players and how they will help us progress rather than the other way round.
 
Patino - will be a very good player in the future, not used correctly in most games and didnt get the physical support that he needed, playing him as a defensive midfielder was truly dumbfounding, but even so 4 goals and four assists over the season wasnt a bad tally, if he had been used better and possibly more sparingly i think that tally would have been higher.
Rogers - didnt really do a great deal until Dobbie took over and let him do the things he was good at, had three or four really good games.
Fiorini - injured a lot of the time, might have had more impact but personally thought hes too much of a head down player. got a fantastic pass on him and likes a shot, took Dobbie to finally use him properly as well.
Bowler - i ve always thought Bowler a bit overrated. on his day he can do wonderful things, but that wonder will come with quite a lot of losing possession and very little defensive capability. Very rarely finds team mates to create opportunities which you really do need from a "creative" player.
Corbaneau - scored a couple of decent goals but it was easy to see that other players found him frustating because he would simply not pass the ball to anyone else even when in very good positions.
Poveda - could have been an absolute superstar for us, but again badly used by two managers. there were times when he and Yates just seemed to read each other really well but neither manager wanted to go down that route for some inexplicable reason.

overall i think the talent was there but was badly used by two pretty much incompetent managers / head coaches
 
Fiorini - decent but is his injuries caused a massive issue - 4/10

Rogers - impressed with his attitude as much as anything 7/10

Patino - some good games, but also some not so good. Clearly a talented player - 6/10

Williams - took a lot of stick and was left exposed by Crappletons awful tactics - 4/10

Goode - looked a good addition until the hamstring curse struck - 5/10

Bowler - a shadow of his former self until Dobbie was given the reigns - 6/10

Corbeanu - scored some goals and caused teams issues but also looked raw and at times was a headless chicken - 5/10

Poveda - frustrating that a player with so much ability wasn't given more chances but was inconsistent to say the least - 6/10
 
Rogers was good, Fiorini in the little he played was good, Patino was technically very good but let down by those around him unfortunately which dragged him down a bit at times. The rest were a bit meh.
 
I found them all to be a bit disappointing but they didn't come into the best situation and were unlucky with injuries and/or managers.

Fiorini, Patino, and Rogers all have good futures in the game.

Bowler and Poveda would flourish in the right set up, whether they find that is a different story.

Williams destined for a solid career at L1, maybe Championship level. Didn't see enough of Goode to make a proper judgment.
 
Costero Poderoso said:
Patino - will be a very good player in the future, not used correctly in most games and didnt get the physical support that he needed, playing him as a defensive midfielder was truly dumbfounding, but even so 4 goals and four assists over the season wasnt a bad tally, if he had been used better and possibly more sparingly i think that tally would have been higher.
Rogers - didnt really do a great deal until Dobbie took over and let him do the things he was good at, had three or four really good games.
Fiorini - injured a lot of the time, might have had more impact but personally thought hes too much of a head down player. got a fantastic pass on him and likes a shot, took Dobbie to finally use him properly as well.
Bowler - i ve always thought Bowler a bit overrated. on his day he can do wonderful things, but that wonder will come with quite a lot of losing possession and very little defensive capability. Very rarely finds team mates to create opportunities which you really do need from a "creative" player.
Corbaneau - scored a couple of decent goals but it was easy to see that other players found him frustating because he would simply not pass the ball to anyone else even when in very good positions.
Poveda - could have been an absolute superstar for us, but again badly used by two managers. there were times when he and Yates just seemed to read each other really well but neither manager wanted to go down that route for some inexplicable reason.

overall i think the talent was there but was badly used by two pretty much incompetent managers / head coaches
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You've said all that I was going to say. All I would add is that these youngsters were sent to us because their parent clubs thought we could develop them well. They didn't arrive as fully developed stars. Unfortunately, they were either misused or made to carry too much responsibility. None of them had reached Sterling's level of development and it was unreasonable of our fans to expect that standard.
 
I think Patino isn't ready for the Championship, he needs to get bigger and learn from a lower league.
Fiorini looked great, hit that injury ruined his season.
Rodgers, good tricky player but needs to take his chances, missed way too many for me.
Poveda has too many discipline issues which limited his playing time, but showed glimpses of quality.
Bowler, the Olympiacos move has destroyed his confidence and he is very much a confidence player.
Williams is league 1 at best right now.
Goode was OK when he played. But nothing special.
None of the loans really set my world on fire.
 
You could see what Fiorini, Patino and Rogers would have given had they been fit and played right. All 3 would be a dream next season, sadly out of our league though.
 
The fact we cannot get away from is we were relegate, the loan players should have made the difference we needed to stay up and they didn’t. So in summary some of the players we had last year have real potential for the future but overall as a group they were disappointing and should have contributed more.
 
Costero Poderoso said:
Patino - will be a very good player in the future, not used correctly in most games and didnt get the physical support that he needed, playing him as a defensive midfielder was truly dumbfounding, but even so 4 goals and four assists over the season wasnt a bad tally, if he had been used better and possibly more sparingly i think that tally would have been higher.
Rogers - didnt really do a great deal until Dobbie took over and let him do the things he was good at, had three or four really good games.
Fiorini - injured a lot of the time, might have had more impact but personally thought hes too much of a head down player. got a fantastic pass on him and likes a shot, took Dobbie to finally use him properly as well.
Bowler - i ve always thought Bowler a bit overrated. on his day he can do wonderful things, but that wonder will come with quite a lot of losing possession and very little defensive capability. Very rarely finds team mates to create opportunities which you really do need from a "creative" player.
Corbaneau - scored a couple of decent goals but it was easy to see that other players found him frustating because he would simply not pass the ball to anyone else even when in very good positions.
Poveda - could have been an absolute superstar for us, but again badly used by two managers. there were times when he and Yates just seemed to read each other really well but neither manager wanted to go down that route for some inexplicable reason.

overall i think the talent was there but was badly used by two pretty much incompetent managers / head coaches
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No write up for Williams?
 
Fiorini made a difference shame we didn’t get many games out of him.
Rogers was a ok, Williams reliable, quietly went about his business.
Patino, frustrating, obviously has something about him but went to ground too easy.
Poveda, looked like he couldn’t be arsed most of the time.
Bowler worse than when he left us
Lad from wolves showed promise when he ran at the opposition.
Overall felt they could have give a bit more
 
Barbarian said:
Fiorini didn't really get enough games to form a proper opinion. From what little we saw, he did look the most able of the loans.
Rogers was a close second for me.
Patino had a 'reputation', wasn't as good as I expected.
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Pretty much agree with this.

Fiorini has the most talent, more developed and will probably go the furthest in the game. Was dictating the games he played and this would have only got better with a constant run.

I thought Patino was very tidy on the ball but showed the energy of a player in his mid thirties at times. if he does well will make it in the championship or a foreign league.

Rogers - still got a lot of potential and has some great physical attributes. Needs to discover his best position and decision making. Feel he would do well in league one next season where he could get 25 goals/assists combined, discover his best position and then be ready to stamp this on the top end of the championship.
 
Rogers has real potential but needs to leave City and find the right club (why not Blackpool?). Patino was thrown in with the big boys and early on you could see he had that extra bit of quality. However, he really needed an experienced old head alongside him and I think he lost confidence in what he was being asked to do. He needs to develop physically and mentally but his lack of pace will restrict how far he can go.

Fiorini, Poveda and Corbeanu all had talent but questionable attitudes. I don't see any of them having careers in the Premier League. Rhys Williams has time on his side and like Rogers needs to find the right club. He has some potential but needs to work on his positional play and physicality.
 
My honest opinion is that there's no point bringing talented young players to the club and then putting washed up old buffoons in charge of them. We started to see those players in the last few games. I'd take any of them back this season.
 
I think I read in an article the idea was for Patino to come in and out of the team, and he was expected to play about half our games being that he’s so young, and not exactly a big lad. The injury and being made into our first choice defensive mid absolutely wrecked him, and I hope he can recover from it as there is a player in there.
Fiorini if fit would have been our fans player of the year.
Rogers has potential but needs to settle in one position. He won’t make it at city, but could have a very good career.
Theo was probably better than we thought at the time. He’d have chipped in across a season.
Poveda is very very talented but has ‘move to mls/ Saudi’ all over him at the moment.
Williams wasn’t good enough, and was found at at Swansea as well, so I can’t see him going on to much better.
 
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