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BFC_BFC_BFC

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Having ploughed through our results and carefully considered the personnel available and the circumstances, I have to say that there is absolutely no way that Michael Appleton deserved to lose his job.

I have been extremely critical of MA and there's no question that we looked bloody disorganised at times, but he really had bugger all to work with, particularly from a defensive point of view... Grant Ward at Right Back being one particular comedy example...

It's hard to admit you were wrong, but on reflection I think I jumped the gun and the Club probably did too..... Admittedly Fan pressure played it's part
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Having ploughed through our results and carefully considered the personnel available and the circumstances, I have to say that there is absolutely no way that Michael Appleton deserved to lose his job.

I have been extremely critical of MA and there's no question that we looked bloody disorganised at times, but he really had bugger all to work with, particularly from a defensive point of view... Grant Ward at Right Back being one particular comedy example...

It's hard to admit you were wrong, but on reflection I think I jumped the gun and the Club probably did too..... Admittedly Fan pressure played it's part
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Ffs ....

I've just worked out I've wasted 124 hours trying to convince you of the above

And another 2.5 hours working out the above
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Having ploughed through our results and carefully considered the personnel available and the circumstances, I have to say that there is absolutely no way that Michael Appleton deserved to lose his job.

I have been extremely critical of MA and there's no question that we looked bloody disorganised at times, but he really had bugger all to work with, particularly from a defensive point of view... Grant Ward at Right Back being one particular comedy example...

It's hard to admit you were wrong, but on reflection I think I jumped the gun and the Club probably did too..... Admittedly Fan pressure played it's part
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Let's get him back then.
 
Appleton didn’t win a game for months and he was a thoroughly depressing character. It was him and the recruitment team that put together this powder puff squad with no character whatsoever.

He was garbage and nobody’s job is safe with his record. Mick McCarthy somehow managed to be even worse which is incomprehensible to be honest.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Having ploughed through our results and carefully considered the personnel available and the circumstances, I have to say that there is absolutely no way that Michael Appleton deserved to lose his job.

I have been extremely critical of MA and there's no question that we looked bloody disorganised at times, but he really had bugger all to work with, particularly from a defensive point of view... Grant Ward at Right Back being one particular comedy example...

It's hard to admit you were wrong, but on reflection I think I jumped the gun and the Club probably did too..... Admittedly Fan pressure played it's part
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No punting him was the right thing to do! Unfortunately his replacement brought in to rescue us turned out to be a bigger disaster!
MA should never have been appointed in the first place, however, I don’t think we would be in the terminal position we are in now if we had kept him until the end of the season, but we would still be in and around the relegation places. In hindsight I would rather we persevered with him but I was glad he went at the time.
We gambled and rolled the dice, unfortunately MM was the wrong choice, Huddersfield did the same at roughly the same time and they appeared to have worked!
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Having ploughed through our results and carefully considered the personnel available and the circumstances, I have to say that there is absolutely no way that Michael Appleton deserved to lose his job.

I have been extremely critical of MA and there's no question that we looked bloody disorganised at times, but he really had bugger all to work with, particularly from a defensive point of view... Grant Ward at Right Back being one particular comedy example...

It's hard to admit you were wrong, but on reflection I think I jumped the gun and the Club probably did too..... Admittedly Fan pressure played it's part
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Never In doubt, well done for admitting the error of your ways 👍🏻👍🏻
 
TheRealKingKenny said:
Appleton didn’t win a game for months and he was a thoroughly depressing character. It was him and the recruitment team that put together this powder puff squad with no character whatsoever.

He was garbage and nobody’s job is safe with his record. Mick McCarthy somehow managed to be even worse which is incomprehensible to be honest.
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At least Appleton had a plan of how he wanted to play and when he had a full squad to pick from he actually did OK

McCarthy on the other hand had no idea or plan and just swapped and changed everything hoping something would work out

However you dress it up both managers were awful appointments and the squad has been woefully short in several key positions
 
TheRealKingKenny said:
Appleton didn’t win a game for months and he was a thoroughly depressing character. It was him and the recruitment team that put together this powder puff squad with no character whatsoever.

He was garbage and nobody’s job is safe with his record. Mick McCarthy somehow managed to be even worse which is incomprehensible to be honest.
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He didn’t win a game in December granted, November doesn’t really count cos we hardly played but he did win a games in August September October and January 👍🏻 here to help
 
Macs tangerine army said:
He didn’t win a game in December granted, November doesn’t really count cos we hardly played but he did win a games in August September October and January 👍🏻 here to help
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Alright smartarse, I couldn’t be bothered to go back and look at our winless run but it was ** long.
 
TheRealKingKenny said:
Appleton didn’t win a game for months and he was a thoroughly depressing character. It was him and the recruitment team that put together this powder puff squad with no character whatsoever.

He was garbage and nobody’s job is safe with his record. Mick McCarthy somehow managed to be even worse which is incomprehensible to be honest.
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Did you really say Appleton assembled the squad😂😂
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
At least Appleton had a plan of how he wanted to play and when he had a full squad to pick from he actually did OK

McCarthy on the other hand had no idea or plan and just swapped and changed everything hoping something would work out

However you dress it up both managers were awful appointments and the squad has been woefully short in several key positions
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Yeah that plan went well didn’t it, we were wide open.

I agree, both terrible.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Having ploughed through our results and carefully considered the personnel available and the circumstances, I have to say that there is absolutely no way that Michael Appleton deserved to lose his job.

I have been extremely critical of MA and there's no question that we looked bloody disorganised at times, but he really had bugger all to work with, particularly from a defensive point of view... Grant Ward at Right Back being one particular comedy example...

It's hard to admit you were wrong, but on reflection I think I jumped the gun and the Club probably did too..... Admittedly Fan pressure played it's part
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You trying to take Phils crown by putting out a contentious statement and watching replies flood in. If so here is another one
 
Macs tangerine army said:
Neither did I , it’s stored in my head cos I went to every game , I take it you didn’t😂😂
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Well done you.

I didn’t go to every game no, geography can make attending every game challenging when I’m a two hour+ flight from Manchester or in London.

I watched every single game and attended when I was in the area. I also have a working set of eyes and we were awful under Michael Appleton.

I wasn’t calling for his head at the time but I won’t be joining your MA fan club either because he was shite.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Having ploughed through our results and carefully considered the personnel available and the circumstances, I have to say that there is absolutely no way that Michael Appleton deserved to lose his job.

I have been extremely critical of MA and there's no question that we looked bloody disorganised at times, but he really had bugger all to work with, particularly from a defensive point of view... Grant Ward at Right Back being one particular comedy example...

It's hard to admit you were wrong, but on reflection I think I jumped the gun and the Club probably did too..... Admittedly Fan pressure played it's part
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Like has been said he shouldn't have been appointed.
It wouldn't have taken much for us to have performed better with him than without him though.
BUT the atmosphere at matches had turned toxic and for that reason alone something had to done or there might have been fans protests at Squires Gate and maybe even words of wisdom directed at the Manager during a game however unlikely that might seem. 😁
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Having ploughed through our results and carefully considered the personnel available and the circumstances, I have to say that there is absolutely no way that Michael Appleton deserved to lose his job.

I have been extremely critical of MA and there's no question that we looked bloody disorganised at times, but he really had bugger all to work with, particularly from a defensive point of view... Grant Ward at Right Back being one particular comedy example...

It's hard to admit you were wrong, but on reflection I think I jumped the gun and the Club probably did too..... Admittedly Fan pressure played it's part
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I'll always maintain that Appleton wasn't the problem it's Mansford and how poor his decision making was over summer including the appointment of Appleton. Neither McCarthy or Appleton got a squad good enough and the book stops at Mansford's door.
 
Nuttalls Mint Toes said:
I'll always maintain that Appleton wasn't the problem it's Mansford and how poor his decision making was over summer including the appointment of Appleton. Neither McCarthy or Appleton got a squad good enough and the book stops at Mansford's door.
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If the book is 'How Not to Run a Football Club' it might be good that it's stopped at his door.
 
Appleton should never have been appointed, almost his first statement was to say we were lucky to stay up last season, then ‘little Blackpool. We then had the lecture off Sadler telling us the board know best.🤣 This error was then compounded by not potting him after the Wigan debacle. As if this catalogue of errors wasn’t enough, they then, after 24 hours deliberating, appoint McCarthy. As the Aussies say, you couldn’t make it up, piss ups in breweries would look like a vicars tea party alongside the absolute shit show of a managerial appointment we have made.talk about how not to run a football club, Nathan Fogg would have enough material off this one season to write a whole series of books.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Having ploughed through our results and carefully considered the personnel available and the circumstances, I have to say that there is absolutely no way that Michael Appleton deserved to lose his job.

I have been extremely critical of MA and there's no question that we looked bloody disorganised at times, but he really had bugger all to work with, particularly from a defensive point of view... Grant Ward at Right Back being one particular comedy example...

It's hard to admit you were wrong, but on reflection I think I jumped the gun and the Club probably did too..... Admittedly Fan pressure played it's pa
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nice run chase,both clueless dickheads who should never been appointed
 
NewburyOne said:
Appleton shouldn't have been sacked after the Watford game, he should have gone much earlier. Just because McCarthy was a disaster doesn't make Appleton any better. Any manager that plays Beesley on the wing deserves sacking.
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He should have gone after the Wigan game.
It would have given the new manager up to a month before a game to look at the squad, including off the pitch dynamics with them being on the Spanish training camp.
They then also had 5 games to assess the players in competitive matches before the transfer window opened up, add to that a full month to get any targets in.
Not getting shut of Applegone so late in the day that his replacement had 12days of the window left.

The fault for this, lays squarely with the board, no-one else.
 
I was never ‘Appleton out’ but I thought he was a thoroughly unlikeable guy and thought we could’ve gone for someone better.

Then the club went for McCarthy and I instantly wanted that miserable ** back.

He would’ve got more of a ‘tune’ out of players like bowler.

Said it before plenty of times already but McCarthy is comfortably one of the worst appointments in my life time.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Having ploughed through our results and carefully considered the personnel available and the circumstances, I have to say that there is absolutely no way that Michael Appleton deserved to lose his job.

I have been extremely critical of MA and there's no question that we looked bloody disorganised at times, but he really had bugger all to work with, particularly from a defensive point of view... Grant Ward at Right Back being one particular comedy example...

It's hard to admit you were wrong, but on reflection I think I jumped the gun and the Club probably did too..... Admittedly Fan pressure played it's part
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Mr motivator was definitely taking us down, no doubt about it.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Having ploughed through our results and carefully considered the personnel available and the circumstances, I have to say that there is absolutely no way that Michael Appleton deserved to lose his job.

I have been extremely critical of MA and there's no question that we looked bloody disorganised at times, but he really had bugger all to work with, particularly from a defensive point of view... Grant Ward at Right Back being one particular comedy example...

It's hard to admit you were wrong, but on reflection I think I jumped the gun and the Club probably did too..... Admittedly Fan pressure played it's part
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l don’t doubt what you’re saying x3 after intensive research by the sounds of it but after that little purple patch in October ending with 2 back to back wins the quality and style of the football nosedived rapidly with the players confidence going with it culminating in that very poor result at Wigan. It was at that point where change was needed especially with the WC break taking place with the hope that some of the long term crocks would be back, but no the Board dicked danced around by not making the obvious decision and our injury list got even worse! Ok so we gave Forest a bit of a tubbing in the FA Cup and gave the transfer window to Appleton, but rather than build on that win he selected a team at Watford that was totally baffling to everyone including the players apart from himself and that sealed his fate. So what do we do we bring in McDinosaur with 19 games left and we had l think 2 games in hand and it’s been nothing but a shambles since. The poor decisions by the Board have left us where we are so the buck stops with them.
 
TangerineBayern said:
l don’t doubt what you’re saying x3 after intensive research by the sounds of it but after that little purple patch in October ending with 2 back to back wins the quality and style of the football nosedived rapidly with the players confidence going with it culminating in that very poor result at Wigan. It was at that point where change was needed especially with the WC break taking place with the hope that some of the long term crocks would be back, but no the Board dicked danced around by not making the obvious decision and our injury list got even worse! Ok so we gave Forest a bit of a tubbing in the FA Cup and gave the transfer window to Appleton, but rather than build on that win he selected a team at Watford that was totally baffling to everyone including the players apart from himself and that sealed his fate. So what do we do we bring in McDinosaur with 19 games left and we had l think 2 games in hand and it’s been nothing but a shambles since. The poor decisions by the Board have left us where we are so the buck stops with them.
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Sorry I don't get this poor performance thing at Wigan

We were in complete control until the red card

That changed the match and we tried to hold on and very nearly did
 
Shows you just how bad Mick McCarthy was managing the Seasiders, that we can find some positives from Appletons time here!!!
I wanted Apples gone as much as anybody, BUT at least We played some football first half of the season, AND he might have just about kept us up.(Well, we'd have a few more points now than Mick got us!)
 
Macs tangerine army said:
He didn’t win a game in December granted, November doesn’t really count cos we hardly played but he did win a games in August September October and January 👍🏻 here to help
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We actually played four games in November 2022 (two at home, two away) and we lost them all, scoring just one goal in the process! 🤔
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Sorry I don't get this poor performance thing at Wigan

We were in complete control until the red card

That changed the match and we tried to hold on and very nearly did
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We were in control until Ekpiteta got sent off and that was in the 17th minute and l said it was a poor result. It most definitely changed the match and as you say we tried to hang on and that’s the problem. Appleton didn’t make a substitution until the 89th minute by bringing on CJ for Charlie, some of our players were blowing out of their arses long before the sub was made and we needed fresh legs on much earlier to change things.
 
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