Interesting Comment in Critch Interview

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I’ve just had a listen to the pre-match interview with Critchley with Andy Bayes of Radio Lancs, after TAM had mentioned it in the podcast.

Critchley stated that we’d had an apology from the PGMOL this week acknowledging that both decisions (offside) vs Wycombe we’re incorrect and therefore we should have been 1-0 up at half time.

Just goes to show the kind of fine margins on which a match and potentially a season can hinge.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I’ve just had a listen to the pre-match interview with Critchley with Andy Bayes of Radio Lancs, after TAM had mentioned it in the podcast.

Critchley stated that we’d had an apology from the PGMOL this week acknowledging that both decisions (offside) vs Wycombe we’re incorrect and therefore we should have been 1-0 up at half time.

Just goes to show the kind of fine margins on which a match and potentially a season can hinge.
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interesting, seems that the PGMOL are issuing quite a lot of apologies just lately.

we were still a bit crap against wycombe but yes fine margins, ref was useless again yesterday,

those apologies particularly in the pl could turn out to be financially problematic.
 
Costero Poderoso said:
interesting, seems that the PGMOL are issuing quite a lot of apologies just lately.

we were still a bit crap against wycombe but yes fine margins, ref was useless again yesterday,

those apologies particularly in the pl could turn out to be financially problematic.
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Thought ref was fine yesterday. VAR would have sorted Wycombe result, but people don't seem to like it.
 
We deservedly got beat at Wycombe and that first half performance was unacceptable…they could have scored five and if our goal had stood and there’s hadn’t then they wouldn’t have eased off..fine margins and all that..we were dreadful first half and as a consequence lost the game..we were not unlucky tbh
 
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TANGERINETOWERPOWER said:
We deservedly got bit at Wycombe and that first half performance was unacceptable…they could have scored five and if our goal had stood and there’s hadn’t then they wouldn’t have eased off..fine margins and all that..we were dreadful first half and as a consequence lost the game..we were not unlucky tbh
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Goals change games. 😉
 
TANGERINETOWERPOWER said:
We deservedly got beat at Wycombe and that first half performance was unacceptable…they could have scored five and if our goal had stood and there’s hadn’t then they wouldn’t have eased off..fine margins and all that..we were dreadful first half and as a consequence lost the game..we were not unlucky tbh
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We didn’t look spectacular for the first 10 on Saturday… Had Reading scored in that spell, then we may have faced a different result / performance, who knows?

As Voy has said above, goals change games and I think (especially when you are a side that’s perhaps lacking a bit of luck / confidence) an early goal (and especially a dodgy one) can have a big impact.

In fairness to Critchley, he acknowledged the performance didn’t deserve a result, but nonetheless you can’t ignore the potential impact of a 2 goal swing in any game of football (it’s massive).
 
poolseasider said:
Now edited my mistake its well over 100k.
Scotland figures are 120k and PL over 10k per match.👍
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No reason why the costs can't be covered by the TV money from the PL, given as a grant to the EFL. I can see that you need kit, technicians and extra match officials so it's not cheap. However it would have had an impact at Wycombe, and would have kept us in the PL with the extra 3 points from the home game against united when we would have had an unassailable 3 goal lead with the penalty.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
We didn’t look spectacular for the first 10 on Saturday… Had Reading scored in that spell, then we may have faced a different result / performance, who knows?

As Voy has said above, goals change games and I think (especially when you are a side that’s perhaps lacking a bit of luck / confidence) an early goal (and especially a dodgy one) can have a big impact.

In fairness to Critchley, he acknowledged the performance didn’t deserve a result, but nonetheless you can’t ignore the potential impact of a 2 goal swing in any game of football (it’s massive).
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Agree . I was a bit concerned during the first 10 but we did great after that.
 
Meliora said:
No reason why the costs can't be covered by the TV money from the PL, given as a grant to the EFL. I can see that you need kit, technicians and extra match officials so it's not cheap. However it would have had an impact at Wycombe, and would have kept us in the PL with the extra 3 points from the home game against united when we would have had an unassailable 3 goal lead with the penalty.
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Did you see the nonsense of the handball on the Wolves player which cost them 3 points over the Weekend?
It proves technology works but those officiating it don't no difference in any game.

Keep VAR in the top leagues not third division football as asking someone else to pay for it is ridiculous.
 
I find VAR largely annoying. And disruptive.

My main bugbear with refereeing though is the awarding of penalties generally, regardless of whether VAR is used. Because the rules are so open to interpretation. What is a punishable handball? And should contact automatically be deemed a foul?

The rule itself, in both cases, leads to inconsistency surely.

The delays while additional refs observe slow motion replays from different angles just further expose the inadequacy of the rules. Because it takes ages and there's no clearly correct decision.

I also dislike the disallowing of goals when a finger or a toe nail is off side. But I also dislike linos who get offside decisions horrendously wrong. But which is worse? 🤔
 
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Just have decent officials that have their competence, eyesight and fitness regularly assessed. I can accept the occasional error on a close call, but we are getting increasing numbers I a single match.
Don't like VAR because it slows down play and makes ridiculous decisions when someone's toe or finger is judged offside. Also scrap the ridiculous procedure when a lino delays flagging when someone is miles offside.
 
I certainly don't want VAR and I think that on balance I'm happy to accept the ups and downs that might be associated with Human Error in order to avoid it, although there are certain limits to what constitutes 'acceptable tolerance' and so it's important to strive for improvements in the way matches are officiated, but also in terms of ensuring the rules are clear and simple enough to make their job less difficult / subjective.

As for the comments above about 'toenails offside' etc.. If you employ any 'precise' system and you are looking for consistency of decision making, then it's inevitable that you have to draw the line at some point. So wherever you draw the line, the decision is always going to have to come down to a fine margin... At some point it is offside and at another point it's onside.

If for example you were to say that anything up to 6 inches offside is within acceptable tolerance, what happens if the player is 6 and a quarter inches offside?
 
We need VAR because refs are not good enough and I include linesmen. But we need those on VAR to stop getting it wrong as well. It should be fool proof.
 
We could scrap the rules that refs and Var struggle with! It suggests they're not fit for purpose.

We could also have a review system like in cricket.

Just off top me 'ed like.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
We didn’t look spectacular for the first 10 on Saturday… Had Reading scored in that spell, then we may have faced a different result / performance, who knows?

As Voy has said above, goals change games and I think (especially when you are a side that’s perhaps lacking a bit of luck / confidence) an early goal (and especially a dodgy one) can have a big impact.

In fairness to Critchley, he acknowledged the performance didn’t deserve a result, but nonetheless you can’t ignore the potential impact of a 2 goal swing in any game of football (it’s massive).
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Agree with @BFC_BFC_BFC - I actually think it would have been a very different result at Wycombe if we'd gone in at the break 1-0 up.
 
incredible_edibles said:
Agree with @BFC_BFC_BFC - I actually think it would have been a very different result at Wycombe if we'd gone in at the break 1-0 up.
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The performance as a whole wasn’t good

I’m not sure it would have been any different

Anyway it meant Critch had to work them hard in the week which resulted in the spectacular win against Reading
 
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