Is it time to end penalty shoot outs

southshore

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The pressure on the players these days is immense and if unsuccessful, leaves them open to the sort of sh*t we saw after last night.

After extra time, if the scores are level, the winner could be the team with most shots on target, or corners won....

Thoughts?
 
Extra time seems to always be a dour grind with no positive outcome,golden goal seemed to liven it up a touch. Penalty taking is a physical and mental skill,we have to embrace it like other countries seem to do. I notice all the penalty misses were from the no fear of previous failures generation,which is worrying.
 
They tried the "golden goal" a few years back which wasn't popular.....

I get the need for a better alternative to pens and like the idea of removing a player after a certain time point. It also adds tactical nouse as opposed to a game of chance.

11 pens is also a fairer option...

A result on the day/night is my preference.
 
Extra time maybe 10 minutes each way then the golden goal?
Too many big finals being decided on penalties which doesn’t sit right with me. That is for sure.
 
I loved golden goal, but it became another 'don't concede"

Perhaps goals scored in the first 5 minutes of normal time, could count double at the end of extra time ?

If not penalties are as fair a way as we'll get.

I hate them mind.
 
It should be done on tournament points, if equal, total goals scored, if equal, total goals conceded, if equal then pens or golden dribbles from the half way line.
 
Extra time of 10 minutes (5 minutes X 2), with goalkeepers withdrawn, and no offside. If would be havoc with teams having to innovate, but exciting to watch.
 
The pressure on the players these days is immense and if unsuccessful, leaves them open to the sort of sh*t we saw after last night.

After extra time, if the scores are level, the winner could be the team with most shots on target, or corners won....

Thoughts?
Id end Extra Time and go straight to penalties
 
Interesting how important that penalty toss is .. Lineker saying most teams who go first go on to win!
 
I wouldn't have penalty shootouts for domestic competitions, replays until decided for me. The game has famous occasions where multiple replays have been needed - the Liverpool/Arsenal semi as an example. I've no time for the extra fixtures those daft lower league comps create - get rid of those. For the top tier teams, their "fixture congestion" (if you can call 38 games congested) is due to European matches, and I didn't see any of them objecting to 6 extra games from a group instead of a knockout format. So tough, get on with it.

For international tournament football there has to be some kind of on the night decision, for obvious reasons. It's not easy to come up with good alternatives to penalties, but I've always been interested in the remove 1 player ever few minutes idea, it would be good to see how it might work. Also the dribble from halfway, bit more of a skill element involved, but at what point is it classed as being missed? if the keeper parries, do they play on, does he have to have hold of the ball for it to be deemed missed? Other than that, 11 penalties is fairer than the current system, and f you had one sent off you sacrifice one of your goes.
 
Hate penalties- and not just because we have a shocking record in that format.

For me, I’d start extra time with 9 players and every 10 mins, 2 more players come off. Golden Goal winner.
 
I wouldn't have penalty shootouts for domestic competitions, replays until decided for me. The game has famous occasions where multiple replays have been needed - the Liverpool/Arsenal semi as an example. I've no time for the extra fixtures those daft lower league comps create - get rid of those. For the top tier teams, their "fixture congestion" (if you can call 38 games congested) is due to European matches, and I didn't see any of them objecting to 6 extra games from a group instead of a knockout format. So tough, get on with it.

For international tournament football there has to be some kind of on the night decision, for obvious reasons. It's not easy to come up with good alternatives to penalties, but I've always been interested in the remove 1 player ever few minutes idea, it would be good to see how it might work. Also the dribble from halfway, bit more of a skill element involved, but at what point is it classed as being missed? if the keeper parries, do they play on, does he have to have hold of the ball for it to be deemed missed? Other than that, 11 penalties is fairer than the current system, and f you had one sent off you sacrifice one of your goes.
Not a fan of that idea of removing players your just going to end up with a load of injuries.
 
Penalty Corners.

Each team takes it in turn to take a corner, after three touches the ball is declared dead. Fouls by the defending team result in a penalty. Sudden death right from the start, first to score wins. Starting team decided by a coin toss.
That way, every member of the team is involved throughout, so no single hero/villain.
 
I would like to see penalties after drawn League games. If a draw at full time each side gets 1 point. Then a pen shoot out for an extra point to the winner. It would add extra excitement to games.
 
The pressure on the players these days is immense and if unsuccessful, leaves them open to the sort of sh*t we saw after last night.

After extra time, if the scores are level, the winner could be the team with most shots on target, or corners won....

Thoughts?
Or how many times they hit the woodwork
 
You could have penalties before the game at knock out tournaments, that would make it interesting during the game
 
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Just a little bump for this thread. Last few days an FA Cup final, Play Off game and now a European final have all been decided on penalties and can't help feeling that at some point they will have to look at if there's a better system available. Ironically they'll probably change it because the authorities will be worried about being sued by those who miss penalties because of a negative impact on their mental health!
 
I thought the penalties were exceptional quality. If you don't have the minerals to cope withy the pressure then don't step up. Its the best way to end the game.
 
In the play offs I wouldn’t have penalties, if teams can’t be separated over 2 legs then the winner is the team that finished higher in the league.
 
Changed my mind from last summer.

Keep them. Players know they exist and it's up to them (Club too) to prepare themselves accordingly.
 
The pressure on the players these days is immense and if unsuccessful, leaves them open to the sort of sh*t we saw after last night.

After extra time, if the scores are level, the winner could be the team with most shots on target, or corners won....

Thoughts?
I don't think the penalties should be blamed for how people behave after them.

Maybe the team with the highest xG should be declared the winner. 🤠

We live in data driven times. Watching Forest v Blades I did think it's wrong that Forest could go out on penalties to them when they finished 5 points above them. I think I would restructure the playoffs along the lines of the lower leagues or similar. Maybe.
 
I can’t see it changing personally as it would have to come from FIFA across the board in all countries and competitions. For me it has to be completed on the night or day, no replays. I’m not a big fan of extra time, as usually the players are exhausted. What about having the penalty shoot out before kick off, then there’s chance for the loser's to redeem themselves. 👍
 
We could always revert back to ‘tossing a coin’ to decide big games as happened well into the 60’s, hard to believe now.
 
Have no problem with them. Did my first in 1981. You live for that pressure, its not fun at the time but its great. The top professionals need to demosntrate to the world their ability to deal with the pressure, its part of their make up.
 
The pressure on the players these days is immense and if unsuccessful, leaves them open to the sort of sh*t we saw after last night.

After extra time, if the scores are level, the winner could be the team with most shots on target, or corners won....

Thoughts?
Nah, just call it a draw.
 
The pressure on the players these days is immense and if unsuccessful, leaves them open to the sort of sh*t we saw after last night.

After extra time, if the scores are level, the winner could be the team with most shots on target, or corners won....

Thoughts?
What's wrong with replays?
 
In a European final now that would take some organising!

If anything I'd do away with extra time and go straight to penalties it nearly always does end up with pens and like the idea of all 11 taking one.
They used to in the past when transport wasn't what it is now.
 
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