Just posted a link regarding Pete wild at barrow fc


any truth in this
Wild ticks all the boxes , plays a high press, his teams are super fit, develops players, he has significantly improved all his clubs, plays attacking football and engages well with fans - would not be surprised to see him end up here
 
Nixon did used to be pretty spot on with our news, but he's been wrong for a while now. I agree that he's probably just seen the other article and made a story of it.

Although Wild would be a good one to have a look at.
 
On the face of it, finishing 9th with Barrow is a massive achievement. Outside of that I have no clue about the bloke!

He should certainly be on our radar if the above is true that he plays an attacking style. Could be our 2nd chance of bringing in an up and coming Barrow manager 👀
 
I've heard he was interviewed last week.
Barrow have one of the lowest budgets in lg2 so for them to nearly make the playoff is huge, remember they were nearly relegated last season. Wild has a reputation of developing younger players and improving older ones - I think he will be a really strong candidate I think and if he was interviewed last week we are clearly very interested. Both he and Barrow will want a quick decision you would imagine.
 
I've heard he was interviewed last week.
I get the feeling they are waiting for the season to end as they want someone in work, my guess is it’s between Wellens and Wild - with an appointment next week. I think they know who they want and it’s not Dobbie
 
I liked the look of Wild when he was mentioned on here.

But I like Dobbie too.

Maybe we could get them both together...

I think Dobbie presses or wants to press, but definitely wants to play a positive passing style.

Wild definitely presses well and also wants to play too, but not sure he's completely managed it yet at Barrow?

They both probably want to do similar things.
 
I get the feeling they are waiting for the season to end as they want someone in work, my guess is it’s between Wellens and Wild - with an appointment next week. I think they know who they want and it’s not Dobbie
Will take longer than next week I would imagine
 
Looking at Barrow's stats 19 defeats and only 47 goals scored so far. Only 1 win in the last 6 games. Not for me when you consider Wellens's Orient only 7 defeats and 90 points on the board. Go for Richie Simon!
A case of budgets too though surely.

What's Wellens style?

Either way Harsh on Dobbie, who is also best placed to assess the squad and knows all its strengths and weaknesses.

Can hit the ground running in terms of recruitment.

I think if we did go a new manager route, Dobbies experience and knowledge would have to be utilised or maybe he'd be part of the coaching staff.

Still think it would be harsh to deny him the job given what we've seen. He'd also be incredibly popular, so would Wellens, Wild is less known but is still a positive fresh start.

It'll be interesting to see what we do. Do we stick with what's now somewhat known in an up and coming Dobbie, or do they choose someone new.

Hard to assess the Norwich game as nothing to play for, but still it'll be interesting to see exactly what Dobbie is trying to do and we can analyse it with no pressure on the game.
 
A case of budgets too though surely.

What's Wellens style?

Either way Harsh on Dobbie, who is also best placed to assess the squad and knows all its strengths and weaknesses.

Can hit the ground running in terms of recruitment.

I think if we did go a new manager route, Dobbies experience and knowledge would have to be utilised or maybe he'd be part of the coaching staff.

Still think it would be harsh to deny him the job given what we've seen. He'd also be incredibly popular, so would Wellens, Wild is less known but is still a positive fresh start.

It'll be interesting to see what we do. Do we stick with what's now somewhat known in an up and coming Dobbie, or do they choose someone new.

Hard to assess the Norwich game as nothing to play for, but still it'll be interesting to see exactly what Dobbie is trying to do and we can analyse it with no pressure on the game.
90 points in a season trumps Wild in my book. Not worth the risk of choosing him over Wellens if there is a possibility of Richie coming.
 
Ive been doing some work in Barlow for last years or so and their “firm“ is called TMF…


….”The Mindless Few”……

when I got told that gave me a right chuckle
 
If we can’t afford Barrow’s manager we’re in serious bother. Suspect 100k tops for the most important ‘signing’ of the Summer
 
Wild is above Wellens in the pecking order IMO and maybe even Dobbie too.

To me, you gauge a manager based on what they are able to do with the resources and circumstances they have available.

Wellens inherited a squad and budget that should have been pushing for Promotion, he took them to the top, which don't get me wrong is very impressive and warrants giving him an interview...

However, Wild took over a team that was clinging to life in the division with one of the lowest budgets and took them to touching distance within the Playoffs, which IMO is a more impressive feat than what Wellens did.

Wild did more with much less, which shows me that he has a higher ceiling than Wellens, who has had both massive successes and massive failures at a plethora of clubs.

I think Wellens is a good manager, but I think he is limited and Wild has the potential to take us much farther.
 
Both Wild and Wellens are under long term contracts so will be costly signings.
Advantage Dobbie.
You'd hope we could poach from club's of Barrow and Leyton Orient's size, having just come down from the Championship. Especially Barrow. I know we ain't some financial heavy weight, but can't see the contract's they have their managers on being too out of our scope.

It all comes out the kitty I suppose, if it's coming down to a decision and Dobbie is still in with a shout, the fact it won't cost owt will certainly help his cause!
 
Wild ticks all the boxes , plays a high press, his teams are super fit, develops players, he has significantly improved all his clubs, plays attacking football and engages well with fans - would not be surprised to see him end up here
Yep. I would prefer Dobbie but wouldn't mind Pete Wild as Pool boss
 
A quote from his last interview:

"I think the people here are quite similar as they are hard-working individuals and they want to come and see a team that works as hard as it can."

That philosophy would suit us well.
Maybe but if you said MM said that when he was boss I would believe it because he loves hard workers.
 
Wild is above Wellens in the pecking order IMO and maybe even Dobbie too.

To me, you gauge a manager based on what they are able to do with the resources and circumstances they have available.

Wellens inherited a squad and budget that should have been pushing for Promotion, he took them to the top, which don't get me wrong is very impressive and warrants giving him an interview...

However, Wild took over a team that was clinging to life in the division with one of the lowest budgets and took them to touching distance within the Playoffs, which IMO is a more impressive feat than what Wellens did.

Wild did more with much less, which shows me that he has a higher ceiling than Wellens, who has had both massive successes and massive failures at a plethora of clubs.

I think Wellens is a good manager, but I think he is limited and Wild has the potential to take us much farther.
Yeah he's probably done more with less.

He certainly seems a very good candidate and that pressing is absolutely essential.

But Dobbie does it too, as much or the main focus, probably not but hard to say with what we've had available, limited time and the necessity to get players confidence back.

@Insider might know more of what he did with the dev squad, was pressing a key element?

People who said they'd seen Barrow more I think said some of the football wasn't amazing. We did play them once ourselves but can only remember us missing chances and them keeping us out.

But Barrow's budget isn't high at all.

He does say he wants to implement a passing style too, but that takes time and clearly budget affects that.

I don't know if it's doable but Wild with Dobbie as assistant maybe, seems to add all the ingredients. But again harsh on Dobbie and we may already have all the ingredients with him already. Would either of them accept that? He might want his own assistants. If Dobbie is not involved at all it seems to be getting rid of something that clearly was getting something out of a bunch who struggled under others and wasting an up and coming talent.

Also the unknown to us if Wild vs the first hand experience of Dobbie, but who also hasn't managed before bar the rescue mission with less pressure.

Tough call this one as Dobbie has been making a positive impact, impressing in training, got more out the group than some experienced managers have, he knows and loves the club, just gets it, can get up and running in summer quickest and with the most knowledge of them. He has experience of being promoted with us and knows the pressures from a players pov. He'll sell tickets, although in the end winning will do it more.

It's got to be advantage him in many ways, but I really like the sound of Wild.

How do both deal when there's expectation on being promoted? Wild wasn't expected to do much with Barrow but did, Wellens was probably expected to get Orient up there and exceeded.

We'll be expected to be in and around the promotion race, so Wellens experience is similar.

What to do...

Does Wellens even want to come here after getting them promoted, does he want a crack at League 1 with the team he got up first? Obviously we're appealing as a bigger club with a past connection, we can be fighting to get back into the championship, if he makes it it's a far higher level.
 
Wild is above Wellens in the pecking order IMO and maybe even Dobbie too.

To me, you gauge a manager based on what they are able to do with the resources and circumstances they have available.

Wellens inherited a squad and budget that should have been pushing for Promotion, he took them to the top, which don't get me wrong is very impressive and warrants giving him an interview...

However, Wild took over a team that was clinging to life in the division with one of the lowest budgets and took them to touching distance within the Playoffs, which IMO is a more impressive feat than what Wellens did.

Wild did more with much less, which shows me that he has a higher ceiling than Wellens, who has had both massive successes and massive failures at a plethora of clubs.

I think Wellens is a good manager, but I think he is limited and Wild has the potential to take us much farther.
That's my view of him and he has improved all the teams he has managed so far from what I have read.
 
Yeah he's probably done more with less.

He certainly seems a very good candidate and that pressing is absolutely essential.

But Dobbie does it too, as much or the main focus, probably not but hard to say with what we've had available, limited time and the necessity to get players confidence back.

@Insider might know more of what he did with the dev squad, was pressing a key element?

People who said they'd seen Barrow more I think said some of the football wasn't amazing. We did play them once ourselves but can only remember us missing chances and them keeping us out.

But Barrow's budget isn't high at all.

He does say he wants to implement a passing style too, but that takes time and clearly budget affects that.

I don't know if it's doable but Wild with Dobbie as assistant maybe, seems to add all the ingredients. But again harsh on Dobbie and we may already have all the ingredients with him already. Would either of them accept that? He might want his own assistants. If Dobbie is not involved at all it seems to be getting rid of something that clearly was getting something out of a bunch who struggled under others and wasting an up and coming talent.

Also the unknown to us if Wild vs the first hand experience of Dobbie, but who also hasn't managed before bar the rescue mission with less pressure.

Tough call this one as Dobbie has been making a positive impact, impressing in training, got more out the group than some experienced managers have, he knows and loves the club, just gets it, can get up and running in summer quickest and with the most knowledge of them. He has experience of being promoted with us and knows the pressures from a players pov. He'll sell tickets, although in the end winning will do it more.

It's got to be advantage him in many ways, but I really like the sound of Wild.

How do both deal when there's expectation on being promoted? Wild wasn't expected to do much with Barrow but did, Wellens was probably expected to get Orient up there and exceeded.

We'll be expected to be in and around the promotion race, so Wellens experience is similar.

What to do...

Does Wellens even want to come here after getting them promoted, does he want a crack at League 1 with the team he got up first? Obviously we're appealing as a bigger club with a past connection, we can be fighting to get back into the championship, if he makes it it's a far higher level.
I think it’s a two horse race between Wild and Wellens - you would imagine that if Dobbie was to get it he would have got it by now. I don’t buy all this ‘all I’m focussing on is Norwich’ as it’s a dead rubber and in the last 10 days (even 3 or 4 weeks) there has been plenty of time for conversations. I expect something to happen next week most likely DoF gets appointed and quickly behind him the new manager. We need to act fast, no time to loose as it’s a massive job rebuilding this summer
 
I don’t really know anything about Wild but he seems to be the right sort of fit. My guess is that Wild, Wellens, Quitchley and Dobb’s will all be in the frame along with a couple we have no idea about. Out of the 4 named here I wouldn’t mind any of them but would probably have Richie at the top of my list and Quitchley at the bottom.
 
I watched a couple of minutes of an interview with him, last week. I wasn't impressed. But there may be a lot more to him than showed up in that clip.
 
Wellens has good experience and has done well, but generally the L2 standard is poor and not a huge jump from National League. With that in mind, the Barrow manager, seriously!! I don’t think SS taking a risk and setting his sights that low. If we were ever going to have a Barrow manager it would have been Evo.

I also don’t think SS would go back for Critchley, after the divisions in the fanbase this season. It would be a huge risk for both parties, unless SS is going to keep our best and invest more heavily on recruitment.

I’d be surprised if Dobbie isn’t given the opportunity.

An alternative for me would be Gary Bowyer. He did very well for us in extremely difficult circumstances and has built his experience since. He’s the type of manager we could get behind.
 
Wellens has good experience and has done well, but generally the L2 standard is poor and not a huge jump from National League. With that in mind, the Barrow manager, seriously!! I don’t think SS taking a risk and setting his sights that low. If we were ever going to have a Barrow manager it would have been Evo.

I also don’t think SS would go back for Critchley, after the divisions in the fanbase this season. It would be a huge risk for both parties, unless SS is going to keep our best and invest more heavily on recruitment.

I’d be surprised if Dobbie isn’t given the opportunity.

An alternative for me would be Gary Bowyer. He did very well for us in extremely difficult circumstances and has built his experience since. He’s the type of manager we could get behind.
Evo got Barrow promoted from the National League and has done really well for Bolton - success is success no matter which way you look at it!
 
I think it’s a two horse race between Wild and Wellens - you would imagine that if Dobbie was to get it he would have got it by now. I don’t buy all this ‘all I’m focussing on is Norwich’ as it’s a dead rubber and in the last 10 days (even 3 or 4 weeks) there has been plenty of time for conversations. I expect something to happen next week most likely DoF gets appointed and quickly behind him the new manager. We need to act fast, no time to loose as it’s a massive job rebuilding this summer
Not sure, as it may be a dead rubber but another chance to look at how Dobbie operates and what his aims are for the side and how he can get thrn across to translate to actual effective football.

It's a tough one, others mentioned do have some useful experience and ways they like their sides to play.
 
We also have to consider long term stability, Dobbie loves the club and it doesn't strike me he'd be jumping ship at the first opportunity.

The other 2 will have left clubs who they’ve not been with that long. Who's to say they won't do a Critch and leave again after maybe impressing here, when big championship clubs start firing managers if they came knocking?
 
We also have to consider long term stability, Dobbie loves the club and it doesn't strike me he'd be jumping ship at the first opportunity.

The other 2 will have left clubs who they’ve not been with that long. Who's to say they won't do a Critch and leave again after maybe impressing here, when big championship clubs start firing managers if they came knocking?
Dobs as a number two to RW or PW makes the most sense to me as it gives him more experience and it gives us some continuity if the appointed manager leaves.

Pete Wild's style and methods would be good for us and Dobs could then step into his shoes if hopefully when Wild is poached off us for doing well.
 
anyone think , league 1 , might , be a step to far for wild
he does seem the fit for pool thou , especially with youngsters
 
Dobs as a number two to RW or PW makes the most sense to me as it gives him more experience and it gives us some continuity if the appointed manager leaves.

Pete Wild's style and methods would be good for us and Dobs could then step into his shoes if hopefully when Wild is poached off us for doing well.
Agree
 
Wild is above Wellens in the pecking order IMO and maybe even Dobbie too.

To me, you gauge a manager based on what they are able to do with the resources and circumstances they have available.

Wellens inherited a squad and budget that should have been pushing for Promotion, he took them to the top, which don't get me wrong is very impressive and warrants giving him an interview...

However, Wild took over a team that was clinging to life in the division with one of the lowest budgets and took them to touching distance within the Playoffs, which IMO is a more impressive feat than what Wellens did.

Wild did more with much less, which shows me that he has a higher ceiling than Wellens, who has had both massive successes and massive failures at a plethora of clubs.

I think Wellens is a good manager, but I think he is limited and Wild has the potential to take us much farther.
In which case Gary Bowyer should be in the running
 
It is a very tough call, I will back any of Dobbie, Wellens or Wild but weighing everything up Dobbie is probably the best bet. If he should get something tomorrow at Norwich then he should be appointed.
 
Not for me

Would much prefer Wellens if there is a chance of getting him we should go all out for him

From what I'm told Wild plays quite a defensive, dull style and plays direct football
 
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