Life ends at 40 in Blackpool

[tommytwojags]

Blackpool residents over 40 have pretty much had it. According to the town's Director of Social Care, those leaving their 30s become frail, with substance abuse. She says “In Blackpool frailty starts in the mid-forties for a lot of our population." "It's life limiting - drugs, alcohol and smoking. It does reduce your lifespan by a substantial amount. We find that in mental health as well, a lot of our mental health patients are dual-diagnosis. "So they might have schizophrenia, but it's also linked to alcohol, drug use, smoking as well. It does go hand-in-hand."

Thank goodness I live in St Annes.

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[April13th1970]

 

[Jaffa_The_Hut]

Blackpool residents over 40 have pretty much had it. According to the town's Director of Social Care, those leaving their 30s become frail, with substance abuse. She says “In Blackpool frailty starts in the mid-forties for a lot of our population." "It's life limiting - drugs, alcohol and smoking. It does reduce your lifespan by a substantial amount. We find that in mental health as well, a lot of our mental health patients are dual-diagnosis. "So they might have schizophrenia, but it's also linked to alcohol, drug use, smoking as well. It does go hand-in-hand."

Thank goodness I live in St Annes.

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So much for the Gold Coast sounds more like the Crack coast.

 

[JJpool]

Another stereotypical article and a bit of a sensationalist thread title really.

Of course they'll be many it does apply to buy many it doesn't. I bet most are in the central area and a lot are other towns mongs who moved. There's a big Scottish contingent for e.g. and they have similar issues up there.

Tbh from a purely numbers pov those who die early are effectively reducing the issue, as I'd imagine the youngsters coming through these days will be healthier than the generations this affects, as seems to be the case, for eg it's cool to go to the gym now whereas even when I was growing up, far less so.

The opportunity's in the town are far better than what was on offer a few decades ago, where also many people felt they had to leave and were replaced by other towns lowlifes, which are now probably largely contributing to this issue.

With that happening less the problem should reduce over time naturally.

 

[poolseasider]

Blackpool residents over 40 have pretty much had it. According to the town's Director of Social Care, those leaving their 30s become frail, with substance abuse. She says “In Blackpool frailty starts in the mid-forties for a lot of our population." "It's life limiting - drugs, alcohol and smoking. It does reduce your lifespan by a substantial amount. We find that in mental health as well, a lot of our mental health patients are dual-diagnosis. "So they might have schizophrenia, but it's also linked to alcohol, drug use, smoking as well. It does go hand-in-hand."

Thank goodness I live in St Annes.

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St Anne's which is full of piss and bag heads around St Alban's road.
As to the article a load of bollocks every town and city has problems.

 

[Wizzerboy]

Another stereotypical article and a bit of a sensationalist thread title really.

Of course they'll be many it does apply to buy many it doesn't. I bet most are in the central area and a lot are other towns mongs who moved. There's a big Scottish contingent for e.g. and they have similar issues up there.

Tbh from a purely numbers pov those who die early are effectively reducing the issue, as I'd imagine the youngsters coming through these days will be healthier than the generations this affects, as seems to be the case, for eg it's cool to go to the gym now whereas even when I was growing up, far less so.

The opportunity's in the town are far better than what was on offer a few decades ago, where also many people felt they had to leave and were replaced by other towns lowlifes, which are now probably largely contributing to this issue.

With that happening less the problem should reduce over time naturally.

The youngsters coming through are just as bad with substance abuse.
There have been a number of funerals that my lads have been to of 'youngsters ' that have had their lives ended too early from that shit
Add to that, processed food and the amount of fast food outlets all over the country not just Blackpool and the health situation isn't as good as you might imagine.
I absolutely love your enthusiasm for our town but sometimes it'd do you good to take your tangerine tinted specs off once in a while

 

[1966_and_all_that]

Another stereotypical article and a bit of a sensationalist thread title really.

Of course they'll be many it does apply to buy many it doesn't. I bet most are in the central area and a lot are other towns mongs who moved. There's a big Scottish contingent for e.g. and they have similar issues up there.

Tbh from a purely numbers pov those who die early are effectively reducing the issue, as I'd imagine the youngsters coming through these days will be healthier than the generations this affects, as seems to be the case, for eg it's cool to go to the gym now whereas even when I was growing up, far less so.

The opportunity's in the town are far better than what was on offer a few decades ago, where also many people felt they had to leave and were replaced by other towns lowlifes, which are now probably largely contributing to this issue.

With that happening less the problem should reduce over time naturally.

I agree with some of that but the town also needs good, long lasting jobs and quality housing in safe, green spaces. That is why projects like the Revoe renewal, the Blackpool Gateway and the Central Station rejuvination are essential. The town centre also needs to be repurposed - gone are the days of grand department stores. For me there has to be an insistence on quality venues; a sort of gentrification for ordinary people, without the executive apartments and Michelin star bullshit. Of course, given the way that northern towns have been rundown over the past 40 years or so, this will take time. Work has already begun but the results will not be fully visible for a decade.

 

[Adams Kebab]

So much for the Gold Coast sounds more like the Crack coast.

I see the usual anti Blackpool brigade are out in force again how childish.

 

[JJpool]

The youngsters coming through are just as bad with substance abuse.
There have been a number of funerals that my lads have been to of 'youngsters ' that have had their lives ended too early from that shit
Add to that, processed food and the amount of fast food outlets all over the country not just Blackpool and the health situation isn't as good as you might imagine.
I absolutely love your enthusiasm for our town but sometimes it'd do you good to take your tangerine tinted specs off once in a while

Youngsters all over the uk are doing party drugs, as has always happened, the police need to get tough on drugs. But there's a bit of a culture to look after yourself more these days once people grow out of that. The messaging and push for healthy food has never been stronger. Of course some don't grow out of it.

But Blackpool isn't experiencing the same influx of problem people as it used to. Therefore when those die off and are replaced by locals with generally less issues, the problem reduces, nowhere near fixed, but reduces.

Youngsters aren't drinking as much as past generations also. Everyone smoked back in the day and now far less do. Those 2 things alone are huge for health.

The food on offer is the same country wide and yes will be an issue for some, however it's likely to drag everywhere down.

 

[Wizzerboy]

Youngsters aren't drinking as much as past generations also. Everyone smoked back in the day and now far less do. Those 2 things alone are huge for health.

Get yourself down highfield Rd on a Friday and Saturday.
Drinking establishments packed out and throngs of people outside smoking, probably a little extra being consumed too

If that's just one street in Blackpool what's the rest like?

 

[JJpool]

I agree with some of that but the town also needs good, long lasting jobs and quality housing in safe, green spaces. That is why projects like the Revoe renewal, the Blackpool Gateway and the Central Station rejuvination are essential. The town centre also needs to be repurposed - gone are the days of grand department stores. For me there has to be an insistence on quality venues; a sort of gentrification for ordinary people, without the executive apartments and Michelin star bullshit. Of course, given the way that northern towns have been rundown over the past 40 years or so, this will take time. Work has already begun but the results will not be fully visible for a decade.

It's all underway, the airport enterprise zone is helping to create thousands of jobs, jobs not usually associated with a tourist area, engineering etc.

Housing is being improved and new housing is of a good standard. Of course loads more to do. The minimum wage has gone up fast, ok people right now are struggling but that's inflation, the minimum wage is actually a respectable level now.

Much of what you say is happening. Which is why I'm saying that as the generations that suffered, so to speak, through lack of opportunity and felt the need to leave so were replaced by dossers feom elsewhere, as that dies out... they will be replaced by generations generally who drink less, smoke less, have more opportunity in and around the area.

So over the next decade or so I think we'll see an improvement in many areas of these 'lists' that Blackpool is near the top of.

 

[Malced]

So it’s another sensationalist headline to try and grab attention. It’s not literal. It’s a play on words around the phrase ‘life begins at 40’.

I had to laugh when I read the comment from two 50 year olds who have lived in Blackpool all their lives. Ahead of their quote, I expected it to say, speaking from the grave via Gypsy Petulengro……..
But no, apparently both are alive and kicking. Who’d have thought?

We also have the insight from the mental health expert that says ‘most of our mental health patients are dual-diagnosis.’
"So they might have schizophrenia, but it's also linked to alcohol, drug use, smoking as well. It does go hand-in-hand."

Last time I looked, that wasn’t befitting the definition of dual diagnosis. Though I admit I have always thought that people who smoke are indeed crazy. Maybe that’s it.

(Doctor, I’m worried about my mental health. I think I’ve got 4 separate mental health conditions. I’ve got smoking, drinking, drug using and a mayonnaise addiction. )

There is something of truth in the article. And it comes within the context of the nation’s health getting worse. (Mainly due to obesity).

I’ve played pool across three fairly local leagues in the last couple of years. The Fylde League, the Kirkham league, and the Blackpool league.

I have to say from my own experiences, that the teams in the Blackpool league generally have a lot of players who seem very unhealthy. This appears to be linked to poverty. It’s a stark contrast to what I see in the kirkham league. A complete difference.

So in summary, the article is attention seeking with its headline, and there’s only anecdotal evidence behind its claims. It’s just the opinion of a few residents and one or two others.
But in my opinion, there is some truth behind it, albeit truth mixed with a pinch of salt and a blob of low fat Mayo.

 

[JJpool]

Youngsters aren't drinking as much as past generations also. Everyone smoked back in the day and now far less do. Those 2 things alone are huge for health.

Get yourself down highfield Rd on a Friday and Saturday.
Drinking establishments packed out and throngs of people outside smoking, probably a little extra being consumed too

If that's just one street in Blackpool what's the rest like?

I think you're forgetting how much drinking was done by past generations.

Google it, younger generations aren't drinking as much or smoking as much.

 

[Mikeyboy]

Probably applies to about 2%.

 

[poolseasider]

The youngsters coming through are just as bad with substance abuse.
There have been a number of funerals that my lads have been to of 'youngsters ' that have had their lives ended too early from that shit
Add to that, processed food and the amount of fast food outlets all over the country not just Blackpool and the health situation isn't as good as you might imagine.
I absolutely love your enthusiasm for our town but sometimes it'd do you good to take your tangerine tinted specs off once in a while

Your contradicting yourself in that post 'all over the country not just Blackpool'.

As a town because the main industry being hospitality which in general is poorly paid are going to have slightly bigger issues than other places.
What can done about that if we raise wages will that bring down drug/alcohol dependency and poor diets not sure.

 

[1966_and_all_that]

Youngsters all over the uk are doing party drugs, as has always happened, the police need to get tough on drugs. But there's a bit of a culture to look after yourself more these days once people grow out of that. The messaging and push for healthy food has never been stronger. Of course some don't grow out of it.

But Blackpool isn't experiencing the same influx of problem people as it used to. Therefore when those die off and are replaced by locals with generally less issues, the problem reduces, owegere near fixed, but reduces.

Youngsters aren't drinking as much as past generations also. Everyone smoked back in the day and now far less do. Those 2 things alone are huge for health.

The food on offer is the same country wide and yes will be an issue for some, however it's likely to drag everywhere down.

What is being described, both in the article and by posters is a concept - already well understood - known as multiple deprivation. The idea is that once people find themselves in a position of poverty, perhaps through unemployment, maybe through drugs, the whole of their life experience tends to follow suit. A single mother on benefits may have two jobs to hold down, if she lacks family support then she lacks the time needed to care properly for her child/children; takeaways or poor meals become a substitute for decent meals sitting as a family. Children may lack the parental interaction that encourages strong language development and core moralities. Education suffers if the family is poorly paid. The mother may begin to suffer depression from fatigue and knowing that she is not properly providing for her family. And so it goes on. The Labour Government of 1997-2010 were helping to break this cycle with its Sure Start programme but more - much more - is needed.

 

[Malced]

What is being described, both in the article and by posters is a concept - already well understood - known as multiple deprivation. The idea is that once people find themselves in a position of poverty, perhaps through unemployment, maybe through drugs, the whole of their life experience tends to follow suit. A single mother on benefits may have two jobs to hold down, if she lacks family support then she lacks the time needed to care properly for her child/children; takeaways or poor meals become a substitute for decent meals sitting as a family. Children may lack the parental interaction that encourages strong language development and core moralities. Education suffers if the family is poorly paid. The mother may begin to suffer depression from fatigue and knowing that she is not properly providing for he family. And so it goes on. The Labour Government of 1997-2010 were helping to break this cycle with its Sure Start programme but more - much more - is needed.

Sure Start has been replaced with Certain Early Finish

 

[JJpool]

What is being described, both in the article and by posters is a concept - already well understood - known as multiple deprivation. The idea is that once people find themselves in a position of poverty, perhaps through unemployment, maybe through drugs, the whole of their life experience tends to follow suit. A single mother on benefits may have two jobs to hold down, if she lacks family support then she lacks the time needed to care properly for her child/children; takeaways or poor meals become a substitute for decent meals sitting as a family. Children may lack the parental interaction that encourages strong language development and core moralities. Education suffers if the family is poorly paid. The mother may begin to suffer depression from fatigue and knowing that she is not properly providing for he family. And so it goes on. The Labour Government of 1997-2010 were helping to break this cycle with its Sure Start programme but more - much more - is needed.

No one is denying issues, the op title and article suggests it applies to all over 40, or the majority, which isn't the case.

We do need the break the cycle and as previously mentioned, steps have and are being taken all the time to ensure the generations coming now and in the future are better, also less bad people coming in.

 

[tangysider]

Blackpool residents over 40 have pretty much had it. According to the town's Director of Social Care, those leaving their 30s become frail, with substance abuse. She says “In Blackpool frailty starts in the mid-forties for a lot of our population." "It's life limiting - drugs, alcohol and smoking. It does reduce your lifespan by a substantial amount. We find that in mental health as well, a lot of our mental health patients are dual-diagnosis. "So they might have schizophrenia, but it's also linked to alcohol, drug use, smoking as well. It does go hand-in-hand."

Thank goodness I live in St Annes.

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Also OK living in Bispham

 

[Lala]

Youngsters all over the uk are doing party drugs, as has always happened, the police need to get tough on drugs. But there's a bit of a culture to look after yourself more these days once people grow out of that. The messaging and push for healthy food has never been stronger. Of course some don't grow out of it.

But Blackpool isn't experiencing the same influx of problem people as it used to. Therefore when those die off and are replaced by locals with generally less issues, the problem reduces, owegere near fixed, but reduces.

Youngsters aren't drinking as much as past generations also. Everyone smoked back in the day and now far less do. Those 2 things alone are huge for health.

The food on offer is the same country wide and yes will be an issue for some, however it's likely to drag everywhere down.

The only people I know who fit the bill described in the OP are a family that moved here from Salford.

Nobody I know who is actually from Blackpool fits that bill. I’m not saying it’s all ‘out of towners‘ but it’s a high majority that have given Blackpool this backwards step health wise.

There is more of a culture of party drugs amongst the younger generation, yes. But that’s more, or just as prevalent in your big cities like Manchester as it’s not about poverty its just a stupid trend.

My girls aged 29 and 23 go to the gym daily, eat so healthily, don’t touch drugs, and only one of them drinks alcohol at all now. Both Blackpool born and bred and brought up in a single parent family

 

[Matesrates]

Millions and millions being invested in the town, so those investing must believe it will bring rewards. The fact is there’s a culture in Blackpool, and many other towns, of drug and alcohol abuse. Let’s face it, apart from families, most come to Blackpool to do exactly that and it rubs off on local young people.

Young people definitely don’t drink as much as they used to, or as regularly, and of course smoking has reduced considerably, but drugs are widely available now, whereas in my day, it was there, but not as prominent.

I said on previous threads, it’s great that millions are being invested in the town, and I expect they believe they will attract a better class of visitor, but how do they get rid of the down and outs? Many have come from out of town, preferring to be beside the sea, rather than in an industrial slum.

 

[C_C_C_Cider]

About time we stopped shipping all the down and outs from other counties.

 

[1966_and_all_that]

The only people I know who fit the bill described in the OP are a family that moved here from Salford.

Nobody I know who is actually from Blackpool fits that bill. I’m not saying it’s all ‘out of towners‘ but it’s a high majority that have given Blackpool this backwards step health wise.

There is more of a culture of party drugs amongst the younger generation, yes. But that’s more, or just as prevalent in your big cities like Manchester as it’s not about poverty its just a stupid trend.

My girls aged 29 and 23 go to the gym daily, eat so healthily, don’t touch drugs, and only one of them drinks alcohol at all now. Both Blackpool born and bred and brought up in a single parent family

And hats off to you for bringing up your girls well. My point was to show how deprivation can multiply, not that it is guaranteed to.

 

[bill40]

I think you're forgetting how much drinking was done by past generations.

Google it, younger generations aren't drinking as much or smoking as much.

Yes I believe they're called 'puriteens' catchy name. Glad I'm not growing up now.

 

[JJpool]

but how do they get rid of the down and outs?

You can only really improve the town, job opportunities, make it nicer, property value goes up and is then less affordable for the down and outs. You can also put in place the conditions to help people, good education, support for people with issues, tackle crime and discourage drug use etc.

About time we stopped shipping all the down and outs from other counties.

Also this isn't happening anywhere near as much as it used to as the opportunity's increase, less are leaving, which in itself will reduce the amount coming in.

 

[todayistheday]

I often say Blackpool is a shitehole but St annes is worse. Two fine golf courses, one tries to make out its in Lytham for some reason.

 

[Matesrates]

You can only really improve the town, job opportunities, make it nicer, property value goes up and is then less affordable for the down and outs. You can also put in place the conditions to help people, good education, support for people with issues, tackle crime and discourage drug use etc.


Also this isn't happening anywhere near as much as it used to as the opportunity's increase, less are leaving, which in itself will reduce the amount coming in.

The problem isn’t property values, it’s the b & bs which have been turned into benefit hostels, slap bang in the centre of a tourist town. The relevant authorities need to find a solution that deals with this.

 

[Foolweary]

St Anne's which is full of piss and bag heads around St Alban's road.
As to the article a load of bollocks every town and city has problems.

Your last line is only true in degrees.

Blackpool has a chronic issue, most other places do not, and some places have almost no problems of this type at all.

It really is time people stopped hand waving this stuff away, it is a problem, and it needs solving.

 

[poolseasider]

Your last line is only true in degrees.

Blackpool has a chronic issue, most other places do not, and some places have almost no problems of this type at all.

It really is time people stopped hand waving this stuff away, it is a problem, and it needs solving.

As I explained above because Blackpool is a low wage town we are always going to have higher problems than elsewhere as poverty and substance abuse often go hand in hand.

That will be hard to change as hospitality in a holiday town usually are the poorest wages.

 

[tommytwojags]

Blackpool has a chronic issue, most other places do not, and some places have almost no problems of this type at all.

It really is time people stopped hand waving this stuff away, it is a problem, and it needs solving.

Keeping sick, alcoholic, drug reliant transients and migrants out of Blackpool is as difficult as stopping illegal immigrants from entering the UK. In fact it's much harder because there seem to be unlimited funds to tackle the latter and there are no restrictions on who comes to live in the Fylde.
When I was a student working in bars in the town centre just about everyone I worked with was an addict or on the run from their spouses or the police. They all arrived for the Summer season in the hope they wouldn't be caught. I don't believe there's a remedy for all of this.

 

[Matesrates]

Providing accommodation for anyone who arrives in the town with nowhere to live is the problem. I expect the council has a legal duty to do so, but it’s the core of the problem. I’m pretty sure that if I decided to move to Windsor or Harrogate with nowhere to live, I wouldn’t be provided with accommodation straight away.

 

[Goldfinger]

Your last line is only true in degrees.

Blackpool has a chronic issue, most other places do not, and some places have almost no problems of this type at all.

It really is time people stopped hand waving this stuff away, it is a problem, and it needs solving.

Everywhere has it's undesirables.
Unfortunately Blackpool attracts them from the 4 corners of the universe thus multiplying the associated issues.

 

[1966_and_all_that]

The problem isn’t property values, it’s the b & bs which have been turned into benefit hostels, slap bang in the centre of a tourist town. The relevant authorities need to find a solution that deals with this.

Note how Blackpool's development in the late C19th and early C20th was characterised by throwing up as many properties as possible, cheek by jowl. Local planning laws were introduced that would have prevented this density of building but the entrepreneurs of Blackpool got in there first. This was not such an issue when holiday-makers from the mill towns were being accommodated in hotels an guest houses not too far removed from their own home experience. Latterly, of course, expectations have risen, leading to vacant properties being taken up by exploitative, absentee landlords, who do not maintain them adequately. Yes, Central Government and local Councils needs to act - hence the Central Station and Revoe developments. beyond that, we all know that more areas are ripe for redevelopment.

 

[JJpool]

The problem isn’t property values, it’s the b & bs which have been turned into benefit hostels, slap bang in the centre of a tourist town. The relevant authorities need to find a solution that deals with this.

From a bit ago...

"Tackling rogue landlords​

Longstanding neglect by some local landlords has led to Blackpool experiencing some of the worst housing conditions in the country, with at least 1 in 3 properties classified as ‘non-decent’.

An expanded local enforcement team will take tough action against those not meeting existing standards and measure landlords against future national standards. This beefed-up inspection regime will tackle exploitation in the local private rented sector and supported housing market driving up housing quality and protecting the most vulnerable.

Alongside this enforcement drive, Homes England will join forces with Blackpool Council, using additional funding of £650,000 to explore regeneration opportunities to improve Blackpool’s housing stock and quality of place.

And there’s support for residents in supported housing as well with a portion of a further £20 million, over 3 years, to improve standards of support and drive out unscrupulous providers"

Also they are refurbishing a lot of properties trying to bering the standard of housing up so it'll be worth more, gives a better standard of living and is less affordable to the dossers.

I think 'My Blackpool home' are involved in that.

I think in some areas they will end up knocking down old properties and building new ones for families.

 

[Ginge]

Blackpool residents over 40 have pretty much had it. According to the town's Director of Social Care, those leaving their 30s become frail, with substance abuse. She says “In Blackpool frailty starts in the mid-forties for a lot of our population." "It's life limiting - drugs, alcohol and smoking. It does reduce your lifespan by a substantial amount. We find that in mental health as well, a lot of our mental health patients are dual-diagnosis. "So they might have schizophrenia, but it's also linked to alcohol, drug use, smoking as well. It does go hand-in-hand."

Thank goodness I live in St Annes.

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What utter bollocks.

 

[premierdream2010]

Blackpool residents over 40 have pretty much had it. According to the town's Director of Social Care, those leaving their 30s become frail, with substance abuse. She says “In Blackpool frailty starts in the mid-forties for a lot of our population." "It's life limiting - drugs, alcohol and smoking. It does reduce your lifespan by a substantial amount. We find that in mental health as well, a lot of our mental health patients are dual-diagnosis. "So they might have schizophrenia, but it's also linked to alcohol, drug use, smoking as well. It does go hand-in-hand."

Thank goodness I live in St Annes.

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what a pile of crap

 

[Stony Hill]

The only people I know who fit the bill described in the OP are a family that moved here from Salford.

Nobody I know who is actually from Blackpool fits that bill. I’m not saying it’s all ‘out of towners‘ but it’s a high majority that have given Blackpool this backwards step health wise.

There is more of a culture of party drugs amongst the younger generation, yes. But that’s more, or just as prevalent in your big cities like Manchester as it’s not about poverty its just a stupid trend.

My girls aged 29 and 23 go to the gym daily, eat so healthily, don’t touch drugs, and only one of them drinks alcohol at all now. Both Blackpool born and bred and brought up in a single parent family

Good for you AND the girls. (Err. Women.)

 

[JJpool]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://democracy.blackpool.gov.uk/documents/s67387/Item%25206.%2520Appendix%2520B.%2520Evidence%2520Base.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj3m7CsrZaAAxUqU0EAHQjCDwYQFnoECA8QAQ&usg=AOvVaw3Vw1oPPmM1jvm9B3ljeuYj

Found this...Worth a read for some information about various things, HMO'S amd protecting other areas from having HMO'S ruin them too.

It's from 2021 but the data will be probably be older than that, maybe even some from the previous census, but still worth a look.

But it highlights about the issue from people outside the area.

Including...







So when people wonder why a lot of investment is going into the central area, this is why.

It needs levelling up with better housing etc, getting rid of derelict building and reducing HMO's. The less cheap crap accommodation the less of these wasters can come. New housing can be filled with people willing to pay, not scrounge.

As highlighted in one of the stats, half of drug deaths are from transient renters and many of the renters are from outside the area.

Theres in town problems of course but if somehow you could take away those not from Blackpool that drags the town down, it would jump up so many league tables instantly.

As said, there's more opportunities now than in a long long time, things are improving and much more investment due, it says in the document less people are expected to come in. The unfit people, many often from elsewhere, tend to die off earlier and if not replaced with others from elsewhere the issue reduces.

Along with all the measures being taken as buildings are improved and new homes built over bad etc, things should start to improve over time.

 

[Blackpool Are Back!]

 

[tommytwojags]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://democracy.blackpool.gov.uk/documents/s67387/Item%25206.%2520Appendix%2520B.%2520Evidence%2520Base.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj3m7CsrZaAAxUqU0EAHQjCDwYQFnoECA8QAQ&usg=AOvVaw3Vw1oPPmM1jvm9B3ljeuYj

Found this...Worth a read for some information about various things, HMO'S amd protecting other areas from having HMO'S ruin them too.

It's from 2021 but the data will be probably be older than that, maybe even some from the previous census, but still worth a look.

But it highlights about the issue from people outside the area.

Including...

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So when people wonder why a lot of investment is going into the central area, this is why.

It needs levelling up with better housing etc, getting rid of derelict building and reducing HMO's. The less cheap crap accommodation the less of these wasters can come. New housing can be filled with people willing to pay, not scrounge.

As highlighted in one of the stats, half of drug deaths are from transient renters and many of the renters are from outside the area.

Theres in town problems of course but if somehow you could take away those not from Blackpool that drags the town down, it would jump up so many league tables instantly.

As said, there's more opportunities now than in a long long time, things are improving and much more investment due, it says in the document less people are expected to come in. The unfit people, many often from elsewhere, tend to die off earlier and if not replaced with others from elsewhere the issue reduces.

Along with all the measures being taken as buildings are improved and new homes built over bad etc, things should start to improve over time.

I found that both startling and sad. On the basis of those statistics I don't see any way Blackpool can ever adequately provide for the welfare of its population of transients and incoming sick and retired people.

 

[JJpool]

I found that both startling and sad. On the basis of those statistics I don't see any way Blackpool can ever adequately provide for the welfare of its population of transients and incoming sick and retired people.

It's mainly that inner area that's the main issue. Needs regeneration, new houses, improving existing houses, keep improving the towns opportunities so that less people leave and are replaced by more dregs. Good education for that next generation so less go on to be like the generation there now.

Improve the area with tree planting and green spaces, to promote better health and mental health. Try and improve the community spirit.

As said replacing some run down areas with the cheap flats with newer houses will mean families will move in eventually and it'll take time but the cycle of people coming in from outside can reduce. That's a start. From there you try and build further.

A lot of what's needed is in the pipeline to happen, but will take a bit of time.

Infact I'd love to know where that central drive regeneration project is meant to start or where its currently at. Along with the Blackpool Central project it'll transform the area if not least by look, not just that road but many surrounding ones too. I suppose it's part of the revoe regeneration and that's barley off the ground, 1st starting with around the stadium, still no news on the east or even the pitches starting.