Jaffa_The_Hut
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Must be the Fleetwood connection.I'm only teasing. I think you're quite an interesting study, actually.
Must be the Fleetwood connection.I'm only teasing. I think you're quite an interesting study, actually.
Bloody Commie!!I'm only teasing. I think you're quite an interesting study, actually.
I know Iām correctTrump negotiated the withdrawal deal in Doha and it was implemented by his administration. By the time the Biden administration took over there were only 2500 US troops remaining in Afghanistan.
Youāre correct that the final evacuation was a clusterfeck, and Biden has certainly been criticised for that, but arguably he had very few options left to him given the situation he inherited from the previous administration.
The Russians have no interest in the Baltic states or Finland because the people arenāt Russian. They have an interest in eastern Ukraine because the people are Russian. Thatcher sent her armada to the south Atlantic to free a couple of thousand Brits from Argentineās junta, but you say that Russia canāt be allowed to protect its own kin on its doorstep. This is total nonsense. As for NATO, Russia would choose to end the whole world (including itself) rather than be defeated by a gaggle of social and moral degenerates and born-again Nazis.'Uncle Vlad' ! FFS he is a mass murderer and criminal.
An alternative scenario is that Trump is elected, Putin, very happy with Trump's lukewarm support for NATO, tries to broker an agreement to stop the fighting in Ukraine in exchange for territory (as you envisage). Putin then sets his sites on gaining territory in one of the Baltic states who would, like Ukraine, find it difficult to defend themselves alone. This puts other NATO members into a difficult position and ends up with the eventual breakup of the organisation completely changing world dynamic and placing more power in the hands of China, India and Russia. A 'new' NATO emerges without the US and Hungary but is significantly weaker etc., etc. The world is plunged into chaos and a conflict breaks out in the Balkans etc. etc. It's all pure speculation.
The short answer is that anything could happen. However, If you think that appeasing Putin by ceding territory in a sovereign country to him is the correct course of action, I would say that you are completely wrong. All that will do is embolden him.
Falklands was to distract from domestic situation and about oilThe Russians have no interest in the Baltic states or Finland because the people arenāt Russian. They have an interest in eastern Ukraine because the people are Russian. Thatcher sent her armada to the south Atlantic to free a couple of thousand Brits from Argentineās junta, but you say that Russia canāt be allowed to protect its own kin on its doorstep. This is total nonsense. As for NATO, Russia would choose to end the whole world (including itself) rather than be defeated by a gaggle of social and moral degenerates and born-again Nazis.
Just a thought.The Russians have no interest in the Baltic states or Finland because the people arenāt Russian. They have an interest in eastern Ukraine because the people are Russian. Thatcher sent her armada to the south Atlantic to free a couple of thousand Brits from Argentineās junta, but you say that Russia canāt be allowed to protect its own kin on its doorstep. This is total nonsense. As for NATO, Russia would choose to end the whole world (including itself) rather than be defeated by a gaggle of social and moral degenerates and born-again Nazis.
The result of that if enacted would simply amount to ethnic cleansing. Similar suggestions are being made right now about the Palestinians in Gaza. Former German leader Merkel has stated that the EU/NATO bloc never had any intention of going ahead with Minsk 2. The Minsk accords would have peacefully settled the situation in Ukraine that began with the 2014 Maidan coup. Russia tried to push for these agreements to be actioned. Alas to no avail.Just a thought.
Why couldnāt these people in Ukraine who want to be Russian just move over the border to Russia?
Wouldn't have been a war if they had done it.
Fair point, but as you say generally well-assimilated. Mr Belokon, for example, is an ethnic Russian, but apparently Latvian first. That said, so far at least, the Baltic Russians havenāt suffered eight years of deadly assault as the eastern Ukrainian people did prior to the current war.There is a significant Russian minority in Latvia, of 24% of the population. Similarly for Estonia with 23% ethnic Russians.Lithuania has only 5% Russians. Compare those figures with 17% in Ukraine overall although mainly in the east of the country.
They immigrated into the Baltic soviets in the years after WW2 as part of the Soviet Unionās ādenazificationā efforts. They seem to be well-assimilated and dispersed though and are not fomenting rebellion. Being now part of the EU must be very helpful in that regard.
But whether Putin will try and wind them up is another question, so I would not be so sure as to say āthe Russians have no interest in the Baltic states because there are no Russians thereā.
Ethnic cleansing is when they are forced out like we saw in Bosnia and the Jews in Germany pre 1939 Iām talking about the repatriation of them with their homeland their country of choice thatās not ethnic cleansing.The result of that if enacted would simply amount to ethnic cleansing. Similar suggestions are being made right now about the Palestinians in Gaza. Former German leader Merkel has stated that the EU/NATO bloc never had any intention of going ahead with Minsk 2. The Minsk accords would have peacefully settled the situation in Ukraine that began with the 2014 Maidan coup. Russia tried to push for these agreements to be actioned. Alas to no avail.
Fair point, but as you say generally well-assimilated. Mr Belokon, for example, is an ethnic Russian, but apparently Latvian first. That said, so far at least, the Baltic Russians havenāt suffered eight years of deadly assault as the eastern Ukrainian people did prior to the current war.