Nigel Farage

I've said before I can see the players aren't doing it for that, I wouldnt boo, but I can see why others do and am just pointing out this will always be in some way linked to the blm movement.

A seperate movement like kick it out would have had universal support, not sure why people seem to debate that.

Its obvious.
It wouldn't have universal support if it was as visible as the knee though, it's not been remotely as high profile, which is the point.

Some will always look for an excuse, I'm not accusing you of that by the way, sorry if it was implied above.
 
It wouldn't have universal support if it was as visible as the knee though, it's not been remotely as high profile, which is the point.

Some will always look for an excuse, I'm not accusing you of that by the way, sorry if it was implied above.
Thanks for clarifying.

It would from me, i know its like a cliche but my favourite pool player was DJ, some of my favourites today are black too. CJ, ward, Ekpiteta etc. I grew up listening to Black music and endeared myself in the culture as a kid. Etc etc. Aj my favourite fighter. I couldn't give a toss about what colour.

Absolutely love them lads, its a disgrace when they get hurt and abused by a scum minority.

Often in these debates the left vs right turns into calling racist and other names far too easily and when the normal man gets called racist it dilutes the real racists into a bigger group. They probably think well of a quarter of the country is racist then I'm not alone.

When in reality they are an ever diminishing minority imo, often made to seem more by twitter etc.
 
Thanks for clarifying.

It would from me, i know its like a cliche but my favourite pool player was DJ, some of my favourites today are black too. CJ, ward, Ekpiteta etc. I grew up listening to Black music and endeared myself in the culture as a kid. Etc etc. Aj my favourite fighter. I couldn't give a toss about what colour.

Absolutely love them lads, its a disgrace when they get hurt and abused by a scum minority.

Often in these debates the left vs right turns into calling racist and other names far too easily and when the normal man gets called racist it dilutes the real racists into a bigger group. They probably think well of a quarter of the country is racist then I'm not alone.

When in reality they are an ever diminishing minority imo, often made to seem more by twitter etc.
I'm not sure it's a diminishing minority. The Brexit vote has given some people the go ahead to bring out their worst tendencies, whether it's against black, Eastern Europeans or whatever.

There's a distinctly unpleasant tone that this Government see as being vote winning, as mentioned by Baroness Warsi last week in response to Priti Patel.
 
I'm not sure it's a diminishing minority. The Brexit vote has given some people the go ahead to bring out their worst tendencies, whether it's against black, Eastern Europeans or whatever.

There's a distinctly unpleasant tone that this Government see as being vote winning, as mentioned by Baroness Warsi last week in response to Priti Patel.
Well there was a good argument for brexit imo, many. But as with most things you have people on the same side but for different reasons.

Same on the left there can be some quite nasty organisations.

The brexit argument for immigration from me was about numbers. Firstly we are a small country and the infrastructure is buckling already with an aging population and lots of immigration.

Secondly was about integration which is key to a happy society.

At the numbers coming in it was almost impossible to integrate them which takes time, rather many live in their own groups which often doesn’t work out well and creates division.

It was a Sikh bloke who sold me the most on this argument when he explained about him arriving and how it worked for him.

Of course no one listened at the time and called most brexiteers names still.

There is an element of communities changing too quickly, people don't want to see towns rapidly changed with people they don't know and don't connect with or often didn't speak English. It takes time to become British.

Given sensible integration suddenly the groups coming in are mixed into society and given time to feel more British to them and to you.

Its then not them that live over there and we dont mix much its so and so next door who banters about the cricket etc.

If we had a sensible policy from the start I doubt the levels of people caring about it would be high at all.
 
I've said before I can see the players aren't doing it for that, I wouldnt boo, but I can see why others do and am just pointing out this will always be in some way linked to the blm movement.

A seperate movement like kick it out would have had universal support, not sure why people seem to debate that.

Its obvious.
I've said before I can see the players aren't doing it for that, I wouldnt boo, but I can see why others do and am just pointing out this will always be in some way linked to the blm movement.

A seperate movement like kick it out would have had universal support, not sure why people seem to debate that.

Its obvious.
Kick it out have given their unequivocal backing to knee-taking. I assume the gesture now has your full support.
 
Kick it out have given their unequivocal backing to knee-taking. I assume the gesture now has your full support.
The same name and gesture as blm, what's hard to understand. They couldn't exactly not back it could they.

Again change the name and gesture and 99.9% of critics will evaporate. Thats the point. People won't stop seeing the link otherwise, it's basic common sense.

Had this had happened we wouldn't be having this debate.
 
GB News are about to announce the sensational appointment of 2 more high profile personalities.

Katie Hopkins will be joining the team as the Health and Covid correspondent, and Stephen Yaxley-Lennon will be the broadcasters Foreign Affairs correspondent.

They both bring with them decades of experience in their respective fields.
 
So I’am of the same opinion as Farage in that I want to stop the flow of illegal immigrants crossing the channel.

So that’s makes me and everyone else who has the same views a racist then?
He has more than one string to his hate filled bow.
 
Quite enjoyed his new show on gb news.

When they cut to the anti lockdown protests part and those morons abused tom hardwood with horrible abuse...

Are those people thick?

Gb news is the channel for 1 actually reporting on their portest which some others dont and 2 actually supports not having lockdowns.

For him to be abused like that was absolutely ridiculous, the thick idiots.

Timestamped below..... 😲

 
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Well there was a good argument for brexit imo, many. But as with most things you have people on the same side but for different reasons.

Same on the left there can be some quite nasty organisations.

The brexit argument for immigration from me was about numbers. Firstly we are a small country and the infrastructure is buckling already with an aging population and lots of immigration.

Secondly was about integration which is key to a happy society.

At the numbers coming in it was almost impossible to integrate them which takes time, rather many live in their own groups which often doesn’t work out well and creates division.

It was a Sikh bloke who sold me the most on this argument when he explained about him arriving and how it worked for him.

Of course no one listened at the time and called most brexiteers names still.

There is an element of communities changing too quickly, people don't want to see towns rapidly changed with people they don't know and don't connect with or often didn't speak English. It takes time to become British.

Given sensible integration suddenly the groups coming in are mixed into society and given time to feel more British to them and to you.

Its then not them that live over there and we dont mix much its so and so next door who banters about the cricket etc.

If we had a sensible policy from the start I doubt the levels of people caring about it would be high at all.
That argument's been going amongst NF types since Windrush and then with the Ugandan Asians at the time of Amin.

Integration is not impossible and social development, with the right investment is perfectly feasible.
 
That argument's been going amongst NF types since Windrush and then with the Ugandan Asians at the time of Amin.

Integration is not impossible and social development, with the right investment is perfectly feasible.
Probably, but if we look at a lot of towns it doesn't seem to have been very successful, with many communities living separately.
 
Viewing figures for GB news have shot up to 45,000 as a result of Nige joining.

Bet the advertisers are delighted with those figures.
 
Its still early days for all the leftwaffle to be getting off on viewing figures. I always find it funny that everyone talking about Farage and hate, yet all that’s spewed out on this thread is hate. Awaits vitriol and hateful replies.
 
Its still early days for all the leftwaffle to be getting off on viewing figures. I always find it funny that everyone talking about Farage and hate, yet all that’s spewed out on this thread is hate. Awaits vitriol and hateful replies.
As you sow, so shall you reap.
 
That argument's been going amongst NF types since Windrush and then with the Ugandan Asians

Integration is not impossible and social development, with the right investment is perfectly feasible.
I think Priti Patel’s parents where chased out by Amin. She seems to have integrated quite successfully. Possibly too well.
 
Nice one Nige.Always in the media when it suits him,never misses an opportunity to crank up the rhetoric and for all his faults managed to change the shape of British politics for generations.
A touch of the Thatch about him but he's always been consistent-unlike many other politicians some of who should know better.

Plumbs

The most influential British politician of the 21st century bar none.

I'd imagine Wiz will be along to tell us that he has never been a MP as if that makes any difference.
 
The same name and gesture as blm, what's hard to understand. They couldn't exactly not back it could they.

Again change the name and gesture and 99.9% of critics will evaporate. Thats the point. People won't stop seeing the link otherwise, it's basic common sense.

Had this had happened we wouldn't be having this debate.
If it wasn't for your insistent posts we wouldn't be having this debate.
 
If it wasn't for your insistent posts we wouldn't be having this debate.
The debate is nowt to do with me and rages on all boards, regardless of if I'm there.

Also you pulling up posts from nearly a week ago is another reason the debate rages on even after dying down. So that ones on you.
 
The debate is nowt to do with me and rages on all boards, regardless of if I'm there.

Also you pulling up posts from nearly a week ago is another reason the debate rages on even after dying down. So that ones on you.
Sorry JJP, I put it down to having an impish sense of humour on a Friday afternoon. Scara will tell you.
 
Sorry JJP, I put it down to having an impish sense of humour on a Friday afternoon. Scara will tell you.
Actually, I'm catching up on a lot of threads at the moment after lying fallow for a few days. I read quite a bit of that debate and in the end I just got a bit week's off with it all. Hence the rapier blow.
 
Sorry JJP, I put it down to having an impish sense of humour on a Friday afternoon. Scara will tell you.

Yep, classic 66 on a Friday.
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Following up the scoop of Nigel ( is that a poop-scoop?), the new presenter is to be Arlene Foster for some more considered, cultural, thoughts.

Proper right wing totty there should double the viewing figures.
 
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