Nigel Farage

Mexboroseasider said:
Not really. It’s just that we have a slightly peculiar form of “democracy” called first past the post that allows a minority to secure power over the majority.
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Quite right mex , and with voting ID coming in (unneccesarily) that minority is at risk of getting more power. . But what about all the conservatives who detest farage and believe me there are many of them.
 
Wonder if he'll be doing unbiased reporting on all the brexiteers who have since managed to grab themselves European passports. Germany anyone ? Er Mr farage ?
 
And a will he be reporting on the fishing industry. He likes a trip to Dover doesnt he. Maybe he could catch up on how they are all faring post bexit. Perhaps a report titled 'done up like a kipper '
 
brightontangerine said:
Quite right mex , and with voting ID coming in (unneccesarily) that minority is at risk of getting more power. . But what about all the conservatives who detest farage and believe me there are many of them.
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Well it’s certainly true plenty of Tories hate Farage. You can include the PM in that number.

While Nige fans on here will be cheering on his attacks on “woke”, Mr Rivett Rivett is not shy of putting the boot into Boris either.

I’m looking forward to that 👍
 
Memphisboy said:
All the usual mob straight in with the insults failing again to realise that more people in this country hold Conservative views than left wing views.
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I dispute that. But, even if you are correct about most holding Conservative views, that does not mean far-right views, Farage Views, Boris pikanini Johnson views.
 
Memphisboy said:
All the usual mob straight in with the insults failing again to realise that more people in this country hold Conservative views than left wing views.
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What the hell has Farage got do with Conservatism? He’s just a shytey far rightie!

Someone commented, they thought he was a **. I think that’s rather unfair, to twats!
 
Wizaard said:
Tolerance and freedom to speak right there 😉
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I think we saw the how the guardians of free speech value that freedom when Tommy Robinsons henchmen were dragging a bloke off his soap box and giving him a good slap so that Tommy could give his speech on free speech 👍
 
Thegoalmachine said:
The bloke should not have been suspended for taking the knee!!

He should have been sacked on the spot 👍🏻🇬🇧
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Because you're an offended snowflake in favour of cancelling anything you don't agree with? Bless.

Even if the knee doesn't achieve anything more than winding twats up, it'll be worth it.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I think we saw the how the guardians of free speech value that freedom when Tommy Robinsons henchmen were dragging a bloke off his soap box and giving him a good slap so that Tommy could give his speech on free speech 👍
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It's not like tiny Tommy is going to do it himself is it?

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'OI! Who are you calling a fraudulent racist oompa loompa?'
 
Nice one Nige.Always in the media when it suits him,never misses an opportunity to crank up the rhetoric and for all his faults managed to change the shape of British politics for generations.
A touch of the Thatch about him but he's always been consistent-unlike many other politicians some of who should know better.
 
Plumbs said:
Nice one Nige.Always in the media when it suits him,never misses an opportunity to crank up the rhetoric and for all his faults managed to change the shape of British politics for generations.
A touch of the Thatch about him but he's always been consistent-unlike many other politicians some of who should know better.
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Consistent, yes. Consistently looking after Number One while fleecing the gullible. What happened to Reform UK?
 
Mexboroseasider said:
Well it isn’t really each to their own really.

One presenter took the knee and has been cancelled as a result.

So much for the bastion of free speech.
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Some of this taking the knee misunderstanding is becoming laughable.

People say yeah but they're doing it for different reasons to why blm do it, but they do it to the same symbol and the slogan as their name, its messy.

The problem is if I start doing a symbol at the same time as a far right group lets say for eg, but for different reasons, people will always associate it with them despite me doing it for good reasons in my head.

The whole BLM thing has been ridiculous here given it was an American problem, a criminal who was wrongly and unnecessarily killed, no indication it was for race I've seen, just like a black cop killing a white guy isn't necessarily, it was over aggressive policing and they guy will be rightly punished. Doesnt mean there isn't problems over there but its vastly worse in USA.

It then spread over here depite the police proving with facts at the time there is no police brutality or bias to certain groups over here and they are just responding to the crimes committed, of course no one wanted to listen.

Allowed to rip down statues of people who obviously don't hold up to todays values is ridiculous, its called history and you learn from it, want something changing go the proper route.

So for taking the knee , If it was me I'd change the gesture.

For everyone saying anyone who bood is a racist, which is complete bollox, if they changed the gesture to crossing arms whilst stood in a circle or something so its nothing to do with blm and the slogan to 'End racism in all forms' or something and people accepted it would they accept they called it wrong?

Point is you cant take something that started with the political Marxist BLM, start doing it and do it for you own reasons which is the same slogan as the political BLM and get upset when people won't forget thats its come about because of the political BLM.

To people of BLM watching people take the knee its basically showing support for them I'd imagine, as they are doing their symbol. Empowering what is a group with some dodgy aims like defunding the police, why would anyone want that unless they want to be able to commit crimes with impunity?

The police in this country are too soft and step on eggshells, but compared to other police do generally a great job in increasingly difficult circumstances. Only a loony group would want to defund them, we need more of them.
 
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JJpool said:
Some of this taking the knee misunderstanding is becoming laughable.

People say yeah but they're doing it for different reasons to why blm do it, but they do it to the same symbol and the slogan as their name, its messy.

The problem is if I start doing a symbol at the same time as a far right group lets say for eg, but for different reasons, people will always associate it with them despite me doing it for good reasons in my head.

The whole BLM thing has been ridiculous here given it was an American problem, a criminal who was wrongly and unnecessarily killed, no indication it was for race I've seen, just like a black cop killing a white guy isn't necessarily, it was over aggressive policing and they guy will be rightly punished. Doesnt mean there isn't problems over there but its vastly worse in USA.

It then spread over here depite the police proving with facts at the time there is no police brutality or bias to certain groups over here and they are just responding to the crimes committed, of course no one wanted to listen.

Allowed to rip down statues of people who obviously don't hold up to todays values is ridiculous, its called history and you learn from it, want something changing go the proper route.

So for taking the knee , If it was me I'd change the gesture.

For everyone saying anyone who bood is a racist, which is complete bollox, if they changed the gesture to crossing arms whilst stood in a circle or something so its nothing to do with blm and the slogan to 'End racism in all forms' or something and people accepted it would they accept they called it wrong?

Point is you cant take something that started with the political Marxist BLM, start doing it and do it for you own reasons which is the same slogan as the political BLM and get upset when people won't forget thats its come about because of the political BLM.

To people of BLM watching people take the knee its basically showing support for them I'd imagine, as they are doing their symbol. Empowering what is a group with some dodgy aims like defunding the police, why would anyone want that unless they want to be able to commit crimes with impunity?

The police in this country are too soft and step on eggshells, but compared to other police do generally a great job in increasingly difficult circumstances. Only a loony group would want to defund them, we need more of them.
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And no one in this country has suggested defunding the police. They're not even funded in the same way as they are in the States where sheriff is a political office.
 
Wizaard said:
Consistent, yes. Consistently looking after Number One while fleecing the gullible. What happened to Reform UK?
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To be fair they're probably re-forming so in that context its difficult to criticise them
 
JJpool said:
Some of this taking the knee misunderstanding is becoming laughable.

People say yeah but they're doing it for different reasons to why blm do it, but they do it to the same symbol and the slogan as their name, its messy.

The problem is if I start doing a symbol at the same time as a far right group lets say for eg, but for different reasons, people will always associate it with them despite me doing it for good reasons in my head.

The whole BLM thing has been ridiculous here given it was an American problem, a criminal who was wrongly and unnecessarily killed, no indication it was for race I've seen, just like a black cop killing a white guy isn't necessarily, it was over aggressive policing and they guy will be rightly punished. Doesnt mean there isn't problems over there but its vastly worse in USA.

It then spread over here depite the police proving with facts at the time there is no police brutality or bias to certain groups over here and they are just responding to the crimes committed, of course no one wanted to listen.

Allowed to rip down statues of people who obviously don't hold up to todays values is ridiculous, its called history and you learn from it, want something changing go the proper route.

So for taking the knee , If it was me I'd change the gesture.

For everyone saying anyone who bood is a racist, which is complete bollox, if they changed the gesture to crossing arms whilst stood in a circle or something so its nothing to do with blm and the slogan to 'End racism in all forms' or something and people accepted it would they accept they called it wrong?

Point is you cant take something that started with the political Marxist BLM, start doing it and do it for you own reasons which is the same slogan as the political BLM and get upset when people won't forget thats its come about because of the political BLM.

To people of BLM watching people take the knee its basically showing support for them I'd imagine, as they are doing their symbol. Empowering what is a group with some dodgy aims like defunding the police, why would anyone want that unless they want to be able to commit crimes with impunity?

The police in this country are too soft and step on eggshells, but compared to other police do generally a great job in increasingly difficult circumstances. Only a loony group would want to defund them, we need more of them.
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Or just separate it instead of using any old excuse.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Or just separate it instead of using any old excuse.
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I've said before I can see the players aren't doing it for that, I wouldnt boo, but I can see why others do and am just pointing out this will always be in some way linked to the blm movement.

A seperate movement like kick it out would have had universal support, not sure why people seem to debate that.

Its obvious.
 
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