Nixon says it's Critchley...

BlackpoolFC said:
They spoke with him after the Wigan game in November but it wasn’t the right time.
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Critchley has already rejected us twice? You just know there will be a third time... disasters alway come in threes.
He was the starting cause of our relegation and you want to give him a THIRD chance, Mr Sadler? You are coming across like a coerced victim of domestic abuse ! The Klopp method must include training in hypnotism.

Just give the job to Mr Dobbie. He wants it and we know he can do it.
 
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Victorsponge said:
Our fans need to get a bloody grip and back whoever is chosen as manager, BFC isn't a bloody cooperative, the fans don't have a say in every decision.
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Yes, we bloody do ! On message boards like this and, more importantly, whether we cough up the cash to go through the turnstiles. “Football is nothing without fans” we used to say.

Jose Riga said “If you spit on the fans and they spit back you might drown”.
Now, I am certainly NOT saying Mr Sadler is spitting on us, but he has to take our opinions into his judgement.
And Critchley HAS spat on us... twice apparently.
 
Archibald Knox said:
Yes, we bloody do ! On message boards like this and, more importantly, whether we cough up the cash to go through the turnstiles. “Football is nothing without fans” we used to say.

Jose Riga said “If you spit on the fans and they spit back you might drown”.
Now, I am certainly NOT saying Mr Sadler is spitting on us, but he has to take our opinions into his judgement.
And Critchley HAS spat on us... twice apparently.
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Why twice ????
 
Archibald Knox said:
Critchley has already rejected us twice? You just know there will be a third time... disasters alway come in threes.
He was the starting cause of our relegation and you want to give him a THIRD chance, Mr Sadler? You are coming across like a coerced victim of domestic abuse ! The Klopp method must include training in hypnotism.

Just give the job to Mr Dobbie. He wants it and we know he can do it.
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If true, then this must be a real slap in the face for Dobbie who we know wants this job in particular and not just any job
 
Personally I wasn't as bothered by Critchley leaving as most. Should have made a statement, but I don't hold grudges. He just made a return more difficult.

I didn't want him back as it would divide fans. Going with someone new and fresh helps get everyone on board straight away and is a new chapter.

Although let's face it he's done nothing but good things here in the past, so it's not like an Appleton appointment, who had done nothing good here before.

But going back again, we may as well not look at any new managers just dig up old ones. He also hasn't done much since he left mind.

I also don't buy the end of season stuff, we actually had mixed results, I'd have taken losing to a relegated side and staying up this season.

If the club get the PR right it can still generate a buzz. But it won't be on Dobbies level of feelgood.

If he comes out and explains what happened and mistakes were made, it'll obviously help.

But where does this leave Dobbie? Obviously you don't want him necessarily shoehorned in, but at the same time it's harsh not to be involved. I'd love him involved.

The football was OK under NC, pragmatic but got results.

Would he do the same again or was that just because of he players we had? He did initially want a passing style.

I don't get this judas nonsense though or I won't song his name of it's him. Ffs he left for far better wages to a far bigger club.

If it is him people need to get a grip, it's nothing like a bad re-appointment of Appleton, although it's not the route I'd have gone.

But I do wonder why is it we can't poach another clubs manager who we haven't had here before.

But whatever, let's see what he has to say.
 
Archibald Knox said:
Critchley has already rejected us twice? You just know there will be a third time... disasters alway come in threes.
He was the starting cause of our relegation and you want to give him a THIRD chance, Mr Sadler? You are coming across like a coerced victim of domestic abuse ! The Klopp method must include training in hypnotism.

Just give the job to Mr Dobbie. He wants it and we know he can do it.
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Tbf it wasn't his fault we fell apart when he left, we didn't have a plan in place which comes from above.

But even with no plan there was loads of time left in the window to pick the right guy, that wasn't hated and sign decent players.
 
Frankly, I think Mr Sadler may be overthinking this. It’s almost like he is thinking “If I appoint Mr Dobbie and he fails, then who do I turn to? I will have to go out for another “Appleton/McCarthy/Other Probable Failure” since Critchley will not be available. But if I appoint Critchley, who we know, and he fails then at least I’ve got Mr Dobbie to turn to.

That’s like the risk averse attitude of a pension fund manager.
 
Victorsponge said:
Our fans need to get a bloody grip and back whoever is chosen as manager, BFC isn't a bloody cooperative, the fans don't have a say in every decision.
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Fans don’t need to back anyone, as yet they have no one to back. You’re right they don’t have a say in any decision, but that doesn’t preclude them from having an opinion on and the right to comment on any decision.
 
Archibald Knox said:
Frankly, I think Mr Sadler may be overthinking this. It’s almost like he is thinking “If I appoint Mr Dobbie and he fails, then who do I turn to? I will have to go out for another “Appleton/McCarthy/Other Probable Failure” since Critchley will not be available. But if I appoint Critchley, who we know, and he fails then at least I’ve got Mr Dobbie to turn to.

That’s like the risk averse attitude of a pension fund manager.
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I'm not sure that's the exact thinking but SS is clearly risk averse to the point of making a mess of it. Like giving Appleton a 4 year contract - a decision that can only emanate from a warped kind of thinking. I was pretty flummoxed when that was announced.
 
All this “it will divide the fans” talk is complete bullshit. Our fans are divided over whether tomorrow is Wednesday or not. Critch is by far the best pedigree we have been linked with. If some fans are wetting their knickers over a “betrayal” maybe they need to go outside a bit more.
 
Critchley leaving opened the door for the fuck up appointments. So he’s not fully to blame. The silence was rude but in keeping with the current silence. Just bizarre when season tickets are on sale.
 
voyeur said:
I'm not sure that's the exact thinking but SS is clearly risk averse to the point of making a mess of it. Like giving Appleton a 4 year contract - a decision that can only emanate from a warped kind of thinking. I was pretty flummoxed when that was announced.
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I don’t think ‘risk aversion’ is quite the word. More like a lack of rounded approach to risk.

If Dobbie gets the job (say) the risk of him losing games or having a difficult start is higher than with Critch. Right? But if we lose games with Dobbie in charge, the fans probably won’t turn, at least initially.

With Critch the risk of losing games is, hopefully, better managed. But as someone correctly stated earlier, a couple of defeats (or even a couple of misplaced passes) and you get ‘Stephen Dobbie’s Tangerine Army’ from the north.

As I say, hopefully he gets away with it. It’s certainly far more likely than with the Appletart appointment last summer. But there would seem to be a medium between the two risks who would’ve brought some of Critchley’s qualities without the baggage.
 
Archibald Knox said:
Yes, we bloody do ! On message boards like this and, more importantly, whether we cough up the cash to go through the turnstiles. “Football is nothing without fans” we used to say.

Jose Riga said “If you spit on the fans and they spit back you might drown”.
Now, I am certainly NOT saying Mr Sadler is spitting on us, but he has to take our opinions into his judgement.
And Critchley HAS spat on us... twice apparently.
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The fact is he will NEVER please all the fans with his choice so he just needs to get to with it, if you don't like his choice and take your ball home the so be it.
 
rememberlesshannon said:
If we win games the first few games, how he left would become a distant memory. That's the bottom line, whoever gets the job will be judged on results and that's the way it should be.
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Didn't everyone say the same about Appleton last summer, and look how that turned out!
 
AmericanTangerine said:
In the 20/21 season, from October onward we took more PPG than any other team and went on the longest unbeaten run of the division (16 games).

If it hadn't been for the slow start we would have easily been promoted automatically.
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If my auntie had bollocks it would have been my uncle
 
Would someone who is good at business make the same mistake twice by hiring someone who is not wanted by the fans . Surely not and if so how will this effect season ticket sales ,because he is the only man that they could employ that would stop me buying one.
 
Critchley is not "not wanted by the fans". He's not wanted by a proportion of people on here who assume they speak for the majority.
In reality, most were pretty disgusted the way Critchley left. He'd built up a rapport and trust with the fans, then he disappeared to fulfil what he thought may be a once in a lifetime opportunity. He was probably very embarrassed about it and didn't know what to say, so said nothing. If he'd said anything, it would have been dismissed as hollow words anyway. But he also has unfinished business here. He may well have learned from his mistakes - he does seem to be that sort of person. There's a huge difference between him and Appleton returning - Appleton was never a fan favourite, never achieved anything with us, and has strong links up the road. Critchley is different. He does understand this club and the fans. He bought into and pushed on the master plan originally. He then f***ed up. But is he the best chance we have of rectifying things? He's certainly not the worst option. People just need to get over themselves. If he does come back, he's got a lot to prove. But we'd be stupid not to give him the chance to do so.
 
voyeur said:
I'm not sure that's the exact thinking but SS is clearly risk averse to the point of making a mess of it. Like giving Appleton a 4 year contract - a decision that can only emanate from a warped kind of thinking. I was pretty flummoxed when that was announced.
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How many times do I have to say it? These contracts have break clauses, it doesn't matter if you give them one year, four years or twenty years, the cost to the club is the same if they want to get rid.
 
Lost Seasider said:
How many times do I have to say it? These contracts have break clauses, it doesn't matter if you give them one year, four years or twenty years, the cost to the club is the same if they want to get rid.
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Keep telling me. It's always good fun. Have you seen Appleton's contract?

What's the point of them btw?!
 
voyeur said:
I'm sure you're right but I don't know how you know the terms of Appleton's contract.
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I know how contracts are structured generally, I know that no club is going to give a manager 4 years pay if they want to sack him, I can make an educated guess at what the terms would be.
 
Tangerine Tractor said:
Critchley is not "not wanted by the fans". He's not wanted by a proportion of people on here who assume they speak for the majority.
In reality, most were pretty disgusted the way Critchley left. He'd built up a rapport and trust with the fans, then he disappeared to fulfil what he thought may be a once in a lifetime opportunity. He was probably very embarrassed about it and didn't know what to say, so said nothing. If he'd said anything, it would have been dismissed as hollow words anyway. But he also has unfinished business here. He may well have learned from his mistakes - he does seem to be that sort of person. There's a huge difference between him and Appleton returning - Appleton was never a fan favourite, never achieved anything with us, and has strong links up the road. Critchley is different. He does understand this club and the fans. He bought into and pushed on the master plan originally. He then f***ed up. But is he the best chance we have of rectifying things? He's certainly not the worst option. People just need to get over themselves. If he does come back, he's got a lot to prove. But we'd be stupid not to give him the chance to do so.
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I agree with your point of view and yes this forum only represents a small faction of the fan base. If there are 50 people on here warning
of this appointment must not go ahead so what !
 
Victorsponge said:
The fact is he will NEVER please all the fans with his choice so he just needs to get to with it, if you don't like his choice and take your ball home the so be it.
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If a few thousand took their ball home, he would be in the 💩. Good thing he doesn’t have that attitude, we would be bankrupt.
 
Lost Seasider said:
I know how contracts are structured generally, I know that no club is going to give a manager 4 years pay if they want to sack him, I can make an educated guess at what the terms would be.
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Maybe, but it's all about negotiations and who wants who the most I would imagine. And how good the negotiators are, like Appleton's agent. And Ben M.
 
The circumstances in which he left BR do not bother me nor, I suppose, his silence. What does bother me is that as the 21/22 season drew to a close, it was clear that Critchley was losing his way (perhaps that's why he took the opportunity to bail). He then failed at Villa...and failed again, big time, at QPR.
Critchley has had his moment in the sun. It's over. Time to move on. Critchley back here? Not for me.
 
I hope this isn’t true, as I hated his football from the 2nd half of the Championship season. I didn’t like his favouritism of certain players or the fact that he sucked the enthusiasm out of Jerry and turned him into a bench warmer.

For me, he’s a poor people manager. When things started to go wrong he lacked the skills to turn the tables. I hated the way he’d beat his chest after a good result and then be invisible after a poor one.

For me he’s an assistant or development coach. I don’t see that he has the skills or personality to cope with a variety of adult professional players. Everything dropped right in his first season, some great signings for L1 and also no pressure from fans due to Covid.

Autumn onwards in the Championship and things / the mood started to change, and for me he rather fell apart. I didn’t see the sort of passion and determination, or man management skills needed in the job role. I think we’ve seen that since at QPR.
 
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