Nottingham Forest game will be cat A £28 / £30

JJpool

JJpool

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Posted on another thread but whats the thoughs on this?

For me we aren't capitalising on these bigger games.

Have said before 28 quid in Blackpool or 30 walk on is too much, of we have any ideas of attracting bigger home crowds.

Rather than charge 28 or 30 and fill the 3 sides we should be trying to charge 24 and open part of the NE to home fans or do a deal and fill it.

The big games are where the casuals and new fans want to come and if there's no capacity then we won't grow.

The stadium doesn't help and were not utilising it to its maximum efficiency.

What do people think, did people think we'd seen the last of cat A this season? A few people told me on here the club had learned, given most games were 24 quid.

The club have done an awful lot right, but I haven't seen much in the way of trying to grow the fanbase from deals or reasonable walk on prices given thats how quite a lot still buy.

For me with these bigger games we are missing opportunities to grow.
 
voyeur said:
Sheff Utd game cat A too.
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Thats really disappointing, thats a midweek night time game too.

Very poor pricing imo, the forest one could be almost a dead rubber game for us by then, hopefully not though.

You always get the stop moaning replies on here from some, but some of us just want the fanbase to grow and us to capitalise on the feelgood factor now.

You never know what will happen in football, you have to capitalise when the going is good.

I bet if this was put to a vote before the season the vast majority wouldn't have picked a category system as the best way to go. Infact, didn't people complain when that interim board did a high price or missed something.... because there's almost all good things from the club its like some dont want call out a seemingly poor strategy.
 
To charge 28/30 for a midweek game in school time is plain stupid when I heard that Saturday I thought WTF.
Lets be honest apart from Preston there isn't a Cat A game which is going to make a difference to Blackpool residents so your basically getting an extra 6 quid from an away end from as small as ours pointless.
 
It depends where your standpoint is because it needs money to succeed and this town hasn't got it,although some of the London exiles could afford this on their loose change.

Some clubs do limited free junior tickets to help balance things up but to many on the Fylde a higher cost is unaffordable, so not really sure how the club can pitch it.
 
Imho, they have a month to actually think about pricing for next season. they really need to drop the 'lets do what every other club does' attitude and be more Blackpool fan savvy.

@SLO

£28 for NF is too much.

Is it just lazy from the Club?
 
Haven't done all of the aways but some Cardiff last week was 21 Stoke is 25 Barnsley called off game has 23 on the ticket.
So what gives us the right to charge 27(£1 commission) to away fans we are ripping them off as well as home.
 
poolseasider said:
To charge 28/30 for a midweek game in school time is plain stupid when I heard that Saturday I thought WTF.
Lets be honest apart from Preston there isn't a Cat A game which is going to make a difference to Blackpool residents so your basically getting an extra 6 quid from an away end from as small as ours pointless.
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Yeah it's not the right approach.

I showed an example in another thread a few weeks back of how you can actually make a similar amount of money with a lesser price with only a few hundred increase.

When the amounts are fairly close it makes little sense to prioritise a little bit extra money over helping more pool fans go to the game. With the right strategy you could actually make the same or more and have more fans going.

Wrong priority imo.

We laugh at pne, a club losing a lot per season, but one thing they do is cheaper tickets, deals etc, trying everything to fill their stadium with home fans. We've done very little so far.
 
fcblackpool said:
Imho, they have a month to actually think about pricing for next season. they really need to drop the 'lets do what every other club does' attitude and be more Blackpool fan savvy.

@SLO

£28 for NF is too much.

Is it just lazy from the Club?
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You didn't tag the @SLO_BFC properly. 😬

Agree completely though. It's the one thing that been badly misjudged.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
Club just reported a loss of £4.8 million. If it can't charge Championship prices whilst in the Championship, then it won't remain in the Championship for long.
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That was an unheard of season, because of covid.

We all appreciate the investment and the way Simon is taking the club forward.

So because we're a small championship club in crowd numbers we should have to raise our prices to compete?

To compete in the championship with other clubs wages we'd have to double our budget so should we raise prices to nearly 60 a pop? No.

Plus as shown in my thread the other week with a modest increase in fans we can earn a similar amount with a lesser price strategy.

Should the club drop cat pricing next season?

Or get rid of the on the day charge? Or both.... To me to grow the fanbase we have to be more competitive with pricing. 28 quid for the big games is too high and 30 on the day, with only previous purchase history anyway, is not going to help attract the extra fans. If we dropped the on the...
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We are taking the high price less fans approach rather than the lower price more fans approach.

If you asked most people pre season with 2 choices the majority would pick the lower one as the best way to grow the fanbase and make similar money to what we do now.
 
JJpool said:
We laugh at pne, a club losing a lot per season, but one thing they do is cheaper tickets, deals etc, trying everything to fill their stadium with home fans. We've done very little so far.
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They do have a lot more empty seats than us though! Not a lot of scope for us to sell more seats.

Some though.
 
voyeur said:
They do have a lot more empty seats than us though! Not a lot of scope for us to sell more seats.

Some though.
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Yeah, but we aren't using what we have optimally.

For eg, no reason you couldn't use part of the SE corner in the away end, the nobbers sat there and still plenty for segregation, the fans are closer when going through the tunnel to the bar area anyway.

We opened 2 blocks for the pne game in the east, weren't even full blocks only part on advice, 800, you could open 2 full blocks which is about 1200 maybe, have a full block segregation and give away fans the block nearest the media section extra as well as the couple hundred in half that corner.

The only thing then is away fans exit south, but let home fans in the north go through that gate and all good.

Also were hindered by that stand yes but we've had enough time to put in some temp facilities. We managed to fill the stadium in the past.

I'm looking forward to the training ground but the east is in many ways a higher priority, as if we insist on the current arrangements for away fans we cannot expand the fanbase. But with waiting for the council whoknows when that could be done. The season with no fans would have been a great time to expand.

But tbh we could build the NE corner over a summer, adding about 1k, but again it's waiting for the wider area development.
 
The pay on the days are completely wrong. And I agree with many others that it's a wasted opportunity to fill the stands and make use of the NE stand by making it attractive.
 
Are the categories arranged by the Police?
As in Cat C no police, Cat B some police and Cat A loads of police ( and make it worse outside the ground!)?
Therefore that’s why the cost is more?
Although I guess that’s the same with other teams, or do they categorise matches and charge accordingly?
 
I struggle to believe that the people running the club would shut sections of the ground and forego income for no good reason. They are obviously very focused on maximising revenue. Cos they need to.
 
Seasided said:
Are the categories arranged by the Police?
As in Cat C no police, Cat B some police and Cat A loads of police ( and make it worse outside the ground!)?
Therefore that’s why the cost is more?
Although I guess that’s the same with other teams, or do they categorise matches and charge accordingly?
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I wouldn't have thought so, other clubs don't do it. It might cost a bit more to police bigger games, but the revenue increases anyway with a bigger crowd, daft to hit the fans in the pocket and price some out for the big games.

The big games are the only games some casual fans will go to, some new fans want to go to, at first.

Its the best chance to attract more, with reasonable pricing and a deal here n there maybe. Hopefully then some of those come more regularly.

Most teams don't do cat pricing i don't think, some do.
 
poolseasider said:
What are Championship prices?
Stoke for example charge £26 for an Adult ticket and have a ground near 30k!
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Plenty of clubs charge over £30 so we are still only charging middle ground prices for this league even in the top category. Nobody is even taking into account inflation which is running at between 7 and 10%. Should the club just take the hit on that?
 
voyeur said:
I struggle to believe that the people running the club would shut sections of the ground and forego income for no good reason. They are obviously very focused on maximising revenue. Cos they need to.
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It is bizarre, I remember the confusion when from one of those structured dialogue meetings they said no plans to open the east to home fans, so they didn't plan for it and therefore its not been ready for home fans from the off.

When you start the season with a game against a team like Cardiff, which isn't a huge draw beyond the hardcore, cat a 28 and 30 quid... its a misjudgement plain and simple.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
Plenty of clubs charge over £30 so we are still only charging middle ground prices for this league even in the top category. Nobody is even taking into account inflation which is running at between 7 and 10%. Should the club just take the hit on that?
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I know many don't and I'd guess the majority don't though, even established clubs for years.

We've just come up, the town isn’t wealthy, we shouldn't be charging more than a lot of other clubs.

We more than anyone have missed out with the boycott years and recently the promotion with only 4k fans allowed to both games, usually many many more thousands go and then attend the following season.

The success now is critical to build upon, the feelgood factor is here now, things can change fast in football, if you don't capitalise when its going good you can miss the opportunity.
 
JJpool said:
It is bizarre, I remember the confusion when from one of those structured dialogue meetings they said no plans to open the east to home fans, so they didn't plan for it and therefore its not been ready for home fans from the off.

When you start the season with a game against a team like Cardiff, which isn't a huge draw beyond the hardcore, cat a 28 and 30 quid... its a misjudgement plain and simple.
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We don't run the club so we don't know all the factors that make up the decisions. We may not agree and there's no actual right or wrong, but Sadler made himself into a successful businessman, stuck his neck out and bought the club, took on the costs and the risks, put his hand in his pocket and he gets to decide the ticket pricing and the seating plan. It's as simple as that really. If he was abusing the club we'd all rightly kick off. But he isn't.
 
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BigHandsOliverKahn said:
Plenty of clubs charge over £30 so we are still only charging middle ground prices for this league even in the top category. Nobody is even taking into account inflation which is running at between 7 and 10%. Should the club just take the hit on that?
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So? We should do what's best for us. We are, in reality, a deprived town with thousands of lapsed fans due to 30 years of abuse. The time is right to be attracting these fans. Our fans.

Quite frankly I couldn't give a shit about other clubs. Nor should anyone else be.

Any empty seat on a football ground is a wasted opportunity for present and future revenue.
 
voyeur said:
We don't run the club so we don't know all the factors that make up the decisions. We may not agree and there's no actual right or wrong, but Sadler made himself into a successful successful businessman, stuck his neck out and bought the club, took on the costs and the risks, out his hand in his pocket and gets to decide the ticket pricing and the seating plan. It's as simple as that really. If he was abusing the club we'd all rightly kick off. But he isn't.
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They've done a lot right, but not everything and more to do here.

Maybe it'll be raised and batted away at the structured dialogue meeting...

Be nice to get an answer and a vision for growing the fanbasea dn an acknowledgement of price being a key factor.

I get the feeling Mansford is behind the prices.
 
Fed up off this talk it’s £28 quid £30 on the day if 4-6 quid is gonna make a big deal to your budget I’d suggest going to football matches at all shouldn’t be a priority
And stay at home and save your cash you clearly need it
Cheap kids seats is what we need more than anything the kids in the north are amazing!!!
 
Dannyp1988 said:
Fed up off this talk it’s £28 quid £30 on the day if 4-6 quid is gonna make a big deal to your budget I’d suggest going to football matches at all shouldn’t be a priority
And stay at home and save your cash you clearly need it
Cheap kids seats is what we need more than anything the kids in the north are amazing!!!
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I'm a season ticket holder so it doesn't affect me, but why do we always get this type of post. If people think price doesn't make a big difference then I don't know what to tell you.

You can guarantee if the club decided to do a cheap deal or lower prices to fill the stadium the same people would be there now praising the club saying what a brilliant initiative it is. 🙄

Its a very simple concept, the more affordable to the area the more people will be able to attend and attend more regularly.

If we want bigger crowds we have to be more affordable, especially in games that aren't on the same level as the pne game yet are the same price.
 
JJpool said:
I'm a season ticket holder so it doesn't affect me, but why do we always get this type of post. If people think price doesn't make a big difference then I don't know what to tell you.

You can guarantee if the club decided to do a cheap deal or lower prices to fill the stadium the same people would be there now praising the club saying what a brilliant initiative it is. 🙄

Its a very simple concept, the more affordable to the area the more people will be able to attend and attend more regularly.

If we want bigger crowds we have to be more affordable, especially in games that aren't on the same level as the pne game yet are the same price.
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Bigger crowds only really occur after you have gone up a division. It's the standard of football, rather than price which is more of a factor. If you think making it cheaper than it already is will mean we increase our chances of promotion from the Championship, then that's where our opinions differ. If your argument is that it is a poor area so needs to be cheap, then fine but that is likely to see us compete at a lower level.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
Plenty of clubs charge over £30 so we are still only charging middle ground prices for this league even in the top category. Nobody is even taking into account inflation which is running at between 7 and 10%. Should the club just take the hit on that?
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Some of the fans are certainly taking a hit on it.
 
Empty seats earn the club nothing and we have about 3,000 of them at every home game

The challenge now surely for the club and its supporters trust is to think of ways to fill these empty seats

We are a championship side with good owners and a decent manager and we can't fill the ground
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
Plenty of clubs charge over £30 so we are still only charging middle ground prices for this league even in the top category. Nobody is even taking into account inflation which is running at between 7 and 10%. Should the club just take the hit on that?
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No they don't only the London teams which is fare enough as their running costs will be higher.
Cardiff was 21 and Stoke on Saturday is 25, why are we charging more than them especially for a Wednesday night game that you can watch with others for a tenner or free on Sky.

As to your inflation argument I'm quite sure Blackpool residents are suffering a tad more than our wealthy owner and players £28 is too much.
 
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