o/t Banning 60+ from football grounds

wizard_wes

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Being muted on Talksport .. I'll just light the litmus paper, throw the grenade and run before I read the comments incoming from our regulars 💥
 
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If that is true then full refunds of season tickets for over 60's should be offered. Otherwise what is the point in renewing?
 
An archaic meaning of 'mute' is 'to defecate'. As in Animal Farm where the pigeons flew over the men's heads and 'muted' on them. (Ill leave it at that)
 
If the government has rejected exclusions on the grounds of age then the clubs would be open to being sued under the age discrimination legislation, which the clubs would inevitably lose on. And if you look at the current new cases of the virus in this country they are mostly within young adults who are not social distancing. Perhaps it is those that shoild be banned!
 
Although it’s got to be the fairest way of keeping the country going economically whilst protecting the NHS. The over 60s have generally had it good through their lives and they tend to be the loudest when talking about the war they weren’t involved in. I’d say it was right for them to make the sacrifice.
Especially that Uncle Albert character. Does he still live in Bushey?
 
Hopefully just a moot point.
Shouldn't generalise, as far as I'm concerned. Age is one of the protected characteristics, after all.

I've had to work extra hours during lockdown, carrying an official letter justifying travel in the early days, not enough ppe to deal, effectively, with those in our care, several younger, unhealthier colleagues shielding for three months on full pay, clients who are getting twitchier as the supply of illicit substances dries up, threatening and accusing staff of "infecting " them, as we cater for their needs in isolation, when positive cases are confirmed.

I've already fallen foul of the raising of "senior " admission prices this year. Should the authorities ban me from watching my team, I will be disappointed, but, in the great scheme of things, is it really that important?
 
First they scrap my over 60 discount as soon as I qualify, now they are going to ban me altogether?

I'm so annoyed I think I'll shave my ear hair.
 
Hopefully just a moot point.
Shouldn't generalise, as far as I'm concerned. Age is one of the protected characteristics, after all.

I've had to work extra hours during lockdown, carrying an official letter justifying travel in the early days, not enough ppe to deal, effectively, with those in our care, several younger, unhealthier colleagues shielding for three months on full pay, clients who are getting twitchier as the supply of illicit substances dries up, threatening and accusing staff of "infecting " them, as we cater for their needs in isolation, when positive cases are confirmed.

I've already fallen foul of the raising of "senior " admission prices this year. Should the authorities ban me from watching my team, I will be disappointed, but, in the great scheme of things, is it really that important?
👏👏 very rational and unselfish 👍 your whole post.
 
I am over 60 and can run rings around a lot of 40 somethings. That’s ridiculous talk. I plan to purchase my Season ticket tomorrow.
 
Two pensioners I know won't be getting a season ticket anyway unless the ticket office is opened yes they have credit cards and mobiles but don't do purchases online.
Anyone know if they are going to open it again?
 
Is no one available to take a purchase over the phone, even if the the ticket office isn't physically open? Surely, they can offer that?
Don't think so
Quote- The Club can confirm that all renewals or purchases of 20/21 season tickets will ONLY be via the Club’s e-ticketing site.
 
Don't think so
Quote- The Club can confirm that all renewals or purchases of 20/21 season tickets will ONLY be via the Club’s e-ticketing site.

We do things properly now, no more cash through the front door, then straight out the back door.👍
Surely they could arrange a call, collect and pay facility?
 
Although it’s got to be the fairest way of keeping the country going economically whilst protecting the NHS. The over 60s have generally had it good through their lives and they tend to be the loudest when talking about the war they weren’t involved in. I’d say it was right for them to make the sacrifice.
...hope you are joking if not then I have two words for you...one begins with an F and the other O.

As for Talk Sport...more like Talk Shit.
 
Although it’s got to be the fairest way of keeping the country going economically whilst protecting the NHS. The over 60s have generally had it good through their lives and they tend to be the loudest when talking about the war they weren’t involved in. I’d say it was right for them to make the sacrifice.
O.K. You've got me triggered 😀🤬...................now FUCK OFF!.........................It makes me shiver to think what kind of lefty dystopian future we are headed toward. The sooner you under 60 wankers kill yourself off with your street/beach parties and protests/riots, the sooner the rest of us can settle down to a normal life. And thanks for making me do what I don't like doing, bloody swearing!
 
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We do things properly now, no more cash through the front door, then straight out the back door.👍
Surely they could arrange a call, collect and pay facility?
Seems to me the closer we are getting to closing down Covid-19, the more jittery some people are getting.
 
If the government has rejected exclusions on the grounds of age then the clubs would be open to being sued under the age discrimination legislation, which the clubs would inevitably lose on. And if you look at the current new cases of the virus in this country they are mostly within young adults who are not social distancing. Perhaps it is those that shoild be banned!
If it's true, my guess is they are doing it because the cannot control the youngsters and are too frightened to even try.
 
If they ban the over 60s, then the ground would be virtually empty anyway and social distancing will happen naturally...😎...
I’m younger btw, can’t see this ever working tbf....
 
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Here lies the problem!!! This is the current situation in all areas on lockdown, you can't meet friends and family in your own garden, but you can go to the pub, and who is it that goes to the pub and doesn't socially distance. Not, as someone has said the 'old crumblies' but those who believe they are untouchable, the younger generation. Street Parties, Raves, protests and so on.

Signed: Angry old crumbly of Shipley. 👹
 
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Although it’s got to be the fairest way of keeping the country going economically whilst protecting the NHS. The over 60s have generally had it good through their lives and they tend to be the loudest when talking about the war they weren’t involved in. I’d say it was right for them to make the sacrifice.
Had it good, Jesus
 
I’m afraid that closing pubs, theatres, holiday resorts etc really isn’t a long term solution and it hammers those people who work in the sector. Everywhere is as safe now as it was before we’d heard of coronavirus, but some people are clearly at greater risk than others if they catch it.

The easiest and fairest way to move forward is to limit exposure of those at the most risk. That’s clearly older people or people with previously existing health conditions. Those people need to make a sacrifice for the greater good rather than expecting whole industries to go under, tanking the economy while it happens.

I’d suggest that to even out the sacrifice, one in every five games is designated an over 60’s only game, where attendance is restricted to allow for sensible distance between spectators from different households. This will need to be well policed to ensure maximum safety and obviously this also stops ‘rergular’ attendees from being there too. This will mean additional costs to clubs, theatres, pubs etc in the form of more police, stewards or bouncers as well implied losses due to reduced season ticket revenues from the under 60’s, who will rightly demand a lower price for less games.

These extra costs will also have to be pushed onto the over 60’s, but as they have spent their lives getting the best of things (free higher education, the ability to buy cheap ex council properties, freedom of movement to other EU countries, better pensions, massive increases in the value of their houses etc) they clearly have the money, they want to be in the ground and they have no dependents to pay for, the extra cost should be affordable.

I can see already that some are bellyaching about the idea, which perhaps goes to show just how selfish that generation can be. And just think of the sacrifices their parents probably all made.
 
Had it good, Jesus
Of course we did, being born after WW2 meant we were the golden generation:
One bath a week, no showers then;
scraped the ice of our windows, no central heating;
caned at school, didn't harm us !;
food and clothing rationed;
eat it or go hungry, no choice;
No TV until 1953 then one channel in black and white;
No pop music on radio, the devils music;
Very few parents with cars;
Gas lit streets;
Didn't dare litter we put it in our pocket;
recycled bottles, not a new idea;
Tipped our school cap to ladies;
Looked up to seniors;
Did as the bobby told us.

Then, when we started work
Still got an occasional cuff around the ear if things weren't done correctly,
Shouted at by the boss;
Worked very long hours, in my case, on average, 60 hours a week;
Still no takeaways, fish and chips apart.

I'm sure some of the other old crumblies, or should that be pillars of society, can add to the list, but as you can see we are still going and have certain standards that are missing in a lot of people these days.

Yes, they were the Golden Days.
 
I’m afraid that closing pubs, theatres, holiday resorts etc really isn’t a long term solution and it hammers those people who work in the sector. Everywhere is as safe now as it was before we’d heard of coronavirus, but some people are clearly at greater risk than others if they catch it.

The easiest and fairest way to move forward is to limit exposure of those at the most risk. That’s clearly older people or people with previously existing health conditions. Those people need to make a sacrifice for the greater good rather than expecting whole industries to go under, tanking the economy while it happens.

I’d suggest that to even out the sacrifice, one in every five games is designated an over 60’s only game, where attendance is restricted to allow for sensible distance between spectators from different households. This will need to be well policed to ensure maximum safety and obviously this also stops ‘rergular’ attendees from being there too. This will mean additional costs to clubs, theatres, pubs etc in the form of more police, stewards or bouncers as well implied losses due to reduced season ticket revenues from the under 60’s, who will rightly demand a lower price for less games.

These extra costs will also have to be pushed onto the over 60’s, but as they have spent their lives getting the best of things (free higher education, the ability to buy cheap ex council properties, freedom of movement to other EU countries, better pensions, massive increases in the value of their houses etc) they clearly have the money, they want to be in the ground and they have no dependents to pay for, the extra cost should be affordable.

I can see already that some are bellyaching about the idea, which perhaps goes to show just how selfish that generation can be. And just think of the sacrifices their parents probably all made.

You are a real whopper suggesting that we all miss out so the mushrooms in the West can have the ground to themself. I have had a season ticket since the Oystains went and have just as much right.
 
Don't forget obese people as well with their fat arses taking up two seats. It will mean further reduced capacity having to social distance from them. Unless they are made to buy two season tickets for the two seats they occupy.
 
I’m afraid that closing pubs, theatres, holiday resorts etc really isn’t a long term solution and it hammers those people who work in the sector. Everywhere is as safe now as it was before we’d heard of coronavirus, but some people are clearly at greater risk than others if they catch it.

The easiest and fairest way to move forward is to limit exposure of those at the most risk. That’s clearly older people or people with previously existing health conditions. Those people need to make a sacrifice for the greater good rather than expecting whole industries to go under, tanking the economy while it happens.

I’d suggest that to even out the sacrifice, one in every five games is designated an over 60’s only game, where attendance is restricted to allow for sensible distance between spectators from different households. This will need to be well policed to ensure maximum safety and obviously this also stops ‘rergular’ attendees from being there too. This will mean additional costs to clubs, theatres, pubs etc in the form of more police, stewards or bouncers as well implied losses due to reduced season ticket revenues from the under 60’s, who will rightly demand a lower price for less games.

These extra costs will also have to be pushed onto the over 60’s, but as they have spent their lives getting the best of things (free higher education, the ability to buy cheap ex council properties, freedom of movement to other EU countries, better pensions, massive increases in the value of their houses etc) they clearly have the money, they want to be in the ground and they have no dependents to pay for, the extra cost should be affordable.

I can see already that some are bellyaching about the idea, which perhaps goes to show just how selfish that generation can be. And just think of the sacrifices their parents probably all made.

I still can't tell if you're joking, Straighters.
 
Go and ask landlords, restauranteurs, actors, hoteliers or concert promotors if this is a joke. They're suffering big time because of draconian rules that never applied to 'normal' respiratory viruses like flu or pneumonia. The notion that we stop the world because a small percentage of old people are at threat, when said percentage can just adapt and protect themselves and allow the rest of us to have fun, is mental.

Young people have to pay more for car insurance because they're deemed a bigger risk. Why shouldn't older people at more risk also have to pay extra to cover the additional safety costs?
 
Go and ask landlords, restauranteurs, actors, hoteliers or concert promotors if this is a joke. They're suffering big time because of draconian rules that never applied to 'normal' respiratory viruses like flu or pneumonia. The notion that we stop the world because a small percentage of old people are at threat, when said percentage can just adapt and protect themselves and allow the rest of us to have fun, is mental.

Young people have to pay more for car insurance because they're deemed a bigger risk. Why shouldn't older people at more risk also have to pay extra to cover the additional safety costs?
The older generation are not the ones flaunting the rules and having illegal raves, parties, demonstrations etc.

The 20-30+ year olds are the ones that should be on mandatory lockdown until they learn how to behave responsibly.
 
Job for life, great pension scheme including final salary, state pension at 65 and, most importantly, affordable housing, so much so that a fair few people I know who are 50+ own more than one property so are asset rich.
It was state pension at 65 until those twats Cameron and Osborne introduced austerity and fucked it up for everyone.
 
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