Points per game

No it's not! There is loads of examples but take pompey. They had a play off hangover like lots of teams do but hit their straps around November. A true points per game of where the team is would be their last 10 games. Tranmere also, now distractions of the Cup are out of the way they won 5 on a bounce I think?

Either void it or play it.
 
Ghosts of Electricity said:
Either void it or play it.
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Not for me-either points per game or play it-behind closed doors.

The most important thing now is for clubs to start selling tickets for next season,where the income will tide them over. We cant have clubs going to the wall so income including new shirts etc is critical.
 
Plumbs said:
Not for me-either points per game or play it-behind closed doors.

The most important thing now is for clubs to start selling tickets for next season,where the income will tide them over. We cant have clubs going to the wall so income including new shirts etc is critical.
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100% agree, my big thing is not buggering up two seasons for the sake of one.

Points per game just doesn't work for me. You are awarding points for games not played. Games should either be played or not, to give notional points just adds more to the farce.
 
Ghosts of Electricity said:
100% agree, my big thing is not buggering up two seasons for the sake of one.

Points per game just doesn't work for me. You are awarding points for games not played. Games should either be played or not, to give notional points just adds more to the farce.
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The real issue is the integrity of the competition and I dont just mean for each division.There have to be winners,losers and play off spots but like I've said on another thread money is critical given that clubs will have invested heavily.
I'd take up the top two from the Championship,divide the parachute money between the next four as it stands and do the same further down the leagues on a pro rata basis.No relegation this season from the PL.

That's not a perfect solution because there isnt one but at least it mitigates the financial implications for everyone. Just voiding the season renders the passion,travelling and commitment from everyone this season meaningless.
 
As the FA have made the lower leagues null and voi son should the EFL and the Prem. Only fair to be consistent.
 
Walnut said:
As the FA have made the lower leagues null and voi son should the EFL and the Prem. Only fair to be consistent.
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They've had that chucked back at them. FA Council to decide I believe.
 
Plumbs said:
The real issue is the integrity of the competition and I dont just mean for each division.There have to be winners,losers and play off spots but like I've said on another thread money is critical given that clubs will have invested heavily.
I'd take up the top two from the Championship,divide the parachute money between the next four as it stands and do the same further down the leagues on a pro rata basis.No relegation this season from the PL.

That's not a perfect solution because there isnt one but at least it mitigates the financial implications for everyone. Just voiding the season renders the passion,travelling and commitment from everyone this season meaningless.
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There are a number of reasons why you can't just promote the top 2. Fulham would argue that it was still all to play for for starters. Plus the sop of divvying up the parachute money is nowhere near the value of actual promotion.
 
Plumbs said:
The real issue is the integrity of the competition and I dont just mean for each division.There have to be winners,losers and play off spots but like I've said on another thread money is critical given that clubs will have invested heavily.
I'd take up the top two from the Championship,divide the parachute money between the next four as it stands and do the same further down the leagues on a pro rata basis.No relegation this season from the PL.

That's not a perfect solution because there isnt one but at least it mitigates the financial implications for everyone. Just voiding the season renders the passion,travelling and commitment from everyone this season meaningless.
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Nothing to do with Leeds in top two by any chance? Lay season out have a break and start next season. Have a close season and play 21/22 which should finish before Qatar World Cup. As for Euros .... ram it bloody stupid idea over 12 countries
 
Walnut said:
As the FA have made the lower leagues null and voi son should the EFL and the Prem. Only fair to be consistent.
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Only third tier and lower in the non leagues not all.
Plenty have wrote to the FA complaining about that descion so it could be revoked.
No points per game nonsense just finish the season so you can have promotion and relegation from every single league and if that's in October and they then have to start again tough.
 
Kettlebelly said:
Nothing to do with Leeds in top two by any chance? Lay season out have a break and start next season. Have a close season and play 21/22 which should finish before Qatar World Cup. As for Euros .... ram it bloody stupid idea over 12 countries
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No not at all but equally what if the Seasiders were top? (smiley) The critical issue is the financing of clubs where every season around this time clubs put their season tickets on sale,then in July launch their kits and conclude their sponsorship deals.
If the current season goes on until (say) August then that whole bank of finance is put on hold until then,which would cripple clubs who incidentally would have to pay extended wages to their playing staff.
 
Wizaard said:
There are a number of reasons why you can't just promote the top 2. Fulham would argue that it was still all to play for for starters. Plus the sop of divvying up the parachute money is nowhere near the value of actual promotion.
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Yup I agree but equally Fulham havent been promoted yet and the season has been stopped by a situation out of everyone's control.The share of the PP money could be divvied on a pro rata basis so they get an extra chunk,thus making it as fair as possible.
Its all about damage limitation and trying to preserve the integrity of this season to a degree,in a situation where any decision is bound to upset someone.
 
Plumbs said:
No not at all but equally what if the Seasiders were top? (smiley) The critical issue is the financing of clubs where every season around this time clubs put their season tickets on sale,then in July launch their kits and conclude their sponsorship deals.
If the current season goes on until (say) August then that whole bank of finance is put on hold until then,which would cripple clubs who incidentally would have to pay extended wages to their playing staff.
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So you’re advocating a PL of 22 teams, which to get back to status quo of 20 clubs, would mean 5 teams relegated next season. I don’t see the PL clubs chancing their hands on that. Think of it, roughly 25% going down!!!
Teams can’t be promoted/relegated if season isn’t complete. Court cases will be flying around like a serious virus.
 
Ghosts of Electricity said:
No it's not! There is loads of examples but take pompey. They had a play off hangover like lots of teams do but hit their straps around November. A true points per game of where the team is would be their last 10 games. Tranmere also, now distractions of the Cup are out of the way they won 5 on a bounce I think?

Either void it or play it.
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With you on this mate. They need to act on it. I think the next month or so will indicate where we are at
 
Kettlebelly said:
So you’re advocating a PL of 22 teams, which to get back to status quo of 20 clubs, would mean 5 teams relegated next season. I don’t see the PL clubs chancing their hands on that. Think of it, roughly 25% going down!!!
Teams can’t be promoted/relegated if season isn’t complete. Court cases will be flying around like a serious virus.
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No not 5 relegated but drip feed it for a couple of seasons to get it back to 20. It gets the Leagues out a hole to some degree and maintains some sort of integrity to the competition.
 
Plumbs said:
No not 5 relegated but drip feed it for a couple of seasons to get it back to 20. It gets the Leagues out a hole to some degree and maintains some sort of integrity to the competition.
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Sorry Plumbs either promotion AND relegation takes place or finish the season whenever. Your plan when knocked down to L2 would reduce it to 21 as 3 go up automatically. Making season finish now and do promotions etc will open up a massive can of worms with lawsuits flying everywhere. What a cluster feck we shall have over next two seasons drip feeding relegation. Four teams relegated to get PL back to 20 even that’s roughly 20% of League teams.
Would you advocate this IF Leeds were 3rd on goal difference and a game in hand?
 
Kettlebelly said:
Sorry Plumbs either promotion AND relegation takes place or finish the season whenever. Your plan when knocked down to L2 would reduce it to 21 as 3 go up automatically. Making season finish now and do promotions etc will open up a massive can of worms with lawsuits flying everywhere. What a cluster feck we shall have over next two seasons drip feeding relegation. Four teams relegated to get PL back to 20 even that’s roughly 20% of League teams.
Would you advocate this IF Leeds were 3rd on goal difference and a game in hand?
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Not sure about L2 because of the Bury situation but the idea was to minimise collateral damage to the clubs collectively,which is the overriding issue right across every division and league involved.

Regarding Leeds they are other clubs who have invested heavily (within ffp and without pp money) would be worse off next season and beyond if they were denied the opportunity to go up. West Ham by comparison would keep hold of their PL money under a likely relegation that's now avoided.

To be honest I'd rather Leeds stayed down,because they're withdrawing our away season tickets and making it hard to maintain my loyal and committed support. Crapped on from a not so great height in an effort to satisfy the 'woodworkers' who did bugger all when the 15 point deduction hit the club.
 
The problem with points per game is who teams have played and whether they have been at home or away. Not in the least bit fair IMHO.
 
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