Police college report - Nicola Bulley

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Delfino

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I see this has been released.

Generally supportive of the investigation but identifies several learning areas.

Took a quick look. Many of them were identified on the incident thread of the time. The report is worth a read.
 
I’ll have a look, thanks.
A couple of witnesses did hear a scream.
Elements of the enquiry were clearly nonsense.

I’m often around that area. Can’t believe it’s been 10 months already. I’ll lay some flowers for her in January. RIP Nicola. 💐


P.S. I blame the puma. 🐈‍⬛
 
A few initial things from the report
- The police should have secured the area and not assumed this wasn't a crime.
- The police should have treated it as a critical incident
- Peter Faulding should have been NDAd
- They shouldn't have realised Nicola's medical details but briefed the media in a private session
- They should have handled communications better
- The actual investigation itself was very good.
 
Delfino said:
A few initial things from the report
- The police should have secured the area and not assumed this wasn't a crime.
- The police should have treated it as a critical incident
- Peter Faulding should have been NDAd
- They shouldn't have realised Nicola's medical details but briefed the media in a private session
- They should have handled communications better
- The actual investigation itself was very good.
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Some good points Delfino, especially your final one.

I have a feeling part of the reason her medical details were released were to deflect the attention somewhat off her partner, which it did.
 
Bend it like Suddick said:
Some good points Delfino, especially your final one.

I have a feeling part of the reason her medical details were released were to deflect the attention somewhat off her partner, which it did.
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The report covers the scenario where the police felt they had to release her details but says had they privately briefed the media, it wouldn't have come to that.
 
The whole thing makes little sense to me. I have walked my dog along that path many times and the first thing I would say is that the river is narrow and the water is shallow at the bank but quite deep in the middle. If you slip down the bank, which I have done, you enter the water at a depth of two feet or less. Then you swear and clamber out of the water. I'm not doubting the outcome of the investigation but I'm confused as to how a young fit person could possibly drown in that water unless they were unconsious when entering it.
 
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Purely from memory I think the implication from the Inquest was that she could have slipped head first into the water, and inhaled a lot of cold water very quickly, which might have led to her sudden drowning?
Might account for the screams, and no suggestion of suicide as I recall?
I don’t know enough to comment on how that stacks up medically, and how she might have entered the water in that manner, and I haven’t been by that bit of river for about 40 years so I don’t know how feasible that explanation is at that site?
I do struggle to account for the fact that for all that searching she wasn’t found for three weeks given the apparently fairly calm state of the river at that time?
As for the bizarre way in which she eventually was found then my mind just ‘boggles’ !
The whole incident was very strange from start to finish.
 
glasshalffull said:
Purely from memory I think the implication from the Inquest was that she could have slipped head first into the water, and inhaled a lot of cold water very quickly, which might have led to her sudden drowning?
Might account for the screams, and no suggestion of suicide as I recall?
I don’t know enough to comment on how that stacks up medically, and how she might have entered the water in that manner, and I haven’t been by that bit of river for about 40 years so I don’t know how feasible that explanation is at that site?
I do struggle to account for the fact that for all that searching she wasn’t found for three weeks given the apparently fairly calm state of the river at that time?
As for the bizarre way in which she eventually was found then my mind just ‘boggles’ !
The whole incident was very strange from start to finish.
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My wife, who works for the ambulance service, told me you can drown very quickly from cold water shock & not have to inhale much water for it to happen.
Probably the most plausible explanation for this tragic event.
 
You’ve got to accept the inquest’s verdict of accidental death. Toxicology & a thoroughly detailed post mortem will have been carried out on the discovery of her body. I feel sorry for the family as if it wasn’t bad enough the first time round, that this inquiry has brought it all up again. Perhaps they can now slowly start to rebuild their lives.
 
Tangerinemoss said:
That's disgusting, what a scum bag
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Just had the Police Commissioner on Radio Lancs absolutely weighing into this Walter Mitty character Faulding.

Absolutely lorded it up with the media. Claimed he'd find her in a day, then claimed she 100% was not there and now is claiming he found her within 6 minutes of being there but the Police would not accept his sonar evidence.

The guy is indeed a total scumbag who was only in it for himself.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Said at the time and I’ll say it again for the record.
I’m still not convinced how a young perfectly healthy woman fell into a very small slow flowing river and couldn’t get out and indeed no one heard her shouts/screams for help and her dog never moved from her supposed point of entry.
I’m not suggesting any foul play or indeed anything else suspicious but I just don’t get she couldn't get out of the river or at the very least someone never heard/saw her in distress.
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It's fairly remote and it was cold at the time. Plenty of people have heart attacks with the shock of the cold water.

Who knows though?
 
Went there this weekend. The horses have made a right mess of the grassy path. Someone has repaired the wonky stile, but moved it slightly further down and it comes out onto a muddy slope next to where Nicola most probably went in. You couldn’t make it up.
I’d like to set up a game camera in that area because I’m still sure I saw a black panther type large cat in the next field across, looking towards Parlick. Be on the lookout if ever you’re in that area.
 
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