Putin contemplating attacking the UK

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Read it in the MOS also seen a video clip of him saying the Kremlin have backed his plan to attack any country found supplying arms to Ukraine.
This agreement also includes the use of nuclear weapons as well he proudly states in his brief.
So enjoy the bank holiday guys and girls it might be our last. 🥹
I might just stay in the Lake District another day or two see how things pan out. 😟
 
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Putin's narrative is for domestic consumption. He needs to sound decisive and on top of the situation. His war is going badly and he knows it.
 
Apart from nuclear (which would also wipe out Russia) how does he actually propose to attack the UK? With what? How does he get his army and ships here? They'd get destroyed the second they entered any NATO area. Their air force is inferior to the UK's, let alone NATO, his Navy would last 5 minutes against the Royal Navy and his Army is a creaking load of wank.

If he tried the nuclear option than a) bye bye Russia and b) at least half his missiles would probably malfunction.
 
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poolseasider said:
Correct his crappy Russian army would be take out in 48hrs if he attacked us.
As to nuclear weapons all NATO'S are aimed at Moscow they'd be wiped out in no time.
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I have to admit, I thought the Russkies were a more efficient killing machine than they are, I think they would be a pushover for the WW2 Wermacht these days.
 
It’s precisely because he’s struggling in Ukraine that we should be concerned. His only option might be to use tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine at which point, what will the west do, shout outrage and do nothing, or take action?
 
Matesrates said:
It’s precisely because he’s struggling in Ukraine that we should be concerned. His only option might be to use tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine at which point, what will the west do, shout outrage and do nothing, or take action?
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An interesting point, but any action taken may well be too late.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Apart from nuclear (which would also wipe out Russia) how does he actually propose to attack the UK? With what? How does he get his army and ships here? They'd get destroyed the second they entered any NATO area. Their air force is inferior to the UK's, let alone NATO, his Navy would last 5 minutes against the Royal Navy and his Army is a creaking load of wank.

If he tried the nuclear option than a) bye bye Russia and b) at least half his missiles would probably malfunction.
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His Army is a creaking load of wank 😂😂😂
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Read it in the MOS also seen a video clip of him saying the Kremlin have backed his plan to attack any country found supplying arms to Ukraine.
This agreement also includes the use of nuclear weapons as well he proudly states in his brief.
So enjoy the bank holiday guys and girls it might be our last. 🥹
I might just stay in the Lake District another day or two see how things pan out. 😟
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I wouldn't stay in the Lakes by the way with Sellafield on your doorstep.
 
The Russians say their Satan ll missile can reach Mach 27 and travel 11,000 miles. Washington is only 4800 miles from Moscow so it would only take 15 mins to fire one at the USA.

There is bound to be a war with Russia and the West over the Arctic too eventually. As soon as natural resources from there are needed, land right disputes will begin.

Whatever happens in our lifetime, one thing is for sure, the advancement in weapon technology means that humans are nudging ever closer to wiping themselves out one day. At least that might help Global Warming and the Polar Ice Caps to reform if humans do obliterate themselves.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
I wouldn't stay in the Lakes by the way with Sellafield on your doorstep.
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Well away from sellafield.
However If one went off I’d have time to jog to the pub and go out in stile. 🍻

I wouldn't be over confident of our navy and airforce taking out Putins.
We may well have the best hardware but sheer numbers alone would count in the end.
Russia has 10 times more aircraft, surface ships, submarines, and aircraft and don’t be fooled not everything Russia has is as old as the Moskva was.
 
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Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Well away from sellafield.
However If one went off I’d have time to jog to the pub and go out in stile. 🍻

I couldn't be over confident of our navy and airforce taking out Putins.
We may well have the best hardware but sheer numbers alone would count in the end.
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Where in the Lakes are you?
 
If Sellafield goes most of Northern Europe would go too just through contamination.

Also, Inskip apparently is number 4 on the Russian target list for the UK as apparently we contact our subs from there.

Now I wonder what Boris put in that letter .....?
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
The Russians say their Satan ll missile can reach Mach 27 and travel 11,000 miles. Washington is only 4800 miles from Moscow so it would only take 15 mins to fire one at the USA.

There is bound to be a war with Russia and the West over the Arctic too eventually. As soon as natural resources from there are needed, land right disputes will begin.

Whatever happens in our lifetime, one thing is for sure, the advancement in weapon technology means that humans are nudging ever closer to wiping themselves out one day. At least that might help Global Warming and the Polar Ice Caps to reform if humans do obliterate themselves.
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Do we know whether this Satan ll missile is fully operational yet and in production?
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
The Russians say their Satan ll missile can reach Mach 27 and travel 11,000 miles. Washington is only 4800 miles from Moscow so it would only take 15 mins to fire one at the USA.

There is bound to be a war with Russia and the West over the Arctic too eventually. As soon as natural resources from there are needed, land right disputes will begin.

Whatever happens in our lifetime, one thing is for sure, the advancement in weapon technology means that humans are nudging ever closer to wiping themselves out one day. At least that might help Global Warming and the Polar Ice Caps to reform if humans do obliterate themselves.
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Every cloud 😂
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Well away from sellafield.
However If one went off I’d have time to jog to the pub and go out in stile. 🍻

I wouldn't be over confident of our navy and airforce taking out Putins.
We may well have the best hardware but sheer numbers alone would count in the end.
Russia has 10 times more aircraft, surface ships, submarines, and aircraft and don’t be fooled not everything Russia has is as old as the Moskva was.
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But how do their Navy and airforce get here?
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Yeah, I said nukes were a separate issue.
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Most of the major airforces of the world has a Smart weapon (non nuke) capability that are capable of launching from several hundred miles with great accuracy that potentially negates the need for aircraft entering into target airspace. Be interesting to see what happens should the Ruskies put one jack boot on Nato soil.🤔
 
Matesrates said:
It’s precisely because he’s struggling in Ukraine that we should be concerned. His only option might be to use tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine at which point, what will the west do, shout outrage and do nothing, or take action?
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Or arm Ukraine with tactical nuclear weapons.
 
Putins army have not been able to take Mariupol after two months of bombing.

The Ukraine defense is far superior as they have shown since early in the invasion.

The clown could only attack the UK or any NATO country with nuclear weapons.

That would be game over for Putin and Russia.

Don’t worry it’s not happening.

Putins close connections will have him out soon ☠️
 

Over a quarter of Russia's tactical groups 'combat ineffective' - MoD​

The UK's Ministry of Defence (MoD) has released its latest update on the situation on the ground in Ukraine, this time focusing on Russian troops.
The ministry say Russia committed more than 120 battalion tactical groups at the beginning of the war on 24 February.
However, more than a quarter of these groups have now been rendered "combat ineffective".
The MoD adds: "Some of Russia’s most elite units, including the VDV Airborne Forces, have suffered the highest levels of attrition.
"It will probably take years for Russia to reconstitute these forces."

Putin is f2cked. His big day is coming up May 9th. Should be interesting to see what spin they can come up with
 
He may well want to press the big red buttons but the men or women tasked with doing it would tell him where to go.
They’ve all got families and know it’s a ludicrous suicide step. No chance whatsoever
 
Matesrates said:
At the moment the dialogue is that we’re providing defensive weapons, although Lavrov has said that means we’re in a proxy war with Russia. Tactical nuclear weapons would surely change the whole story.
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Yep and anyway, who would Ukraine nuke? The invading Russians therefore basically rendering huge swathes of their own country uninhabitable for decades? Russia and hope the wind isn't blowing West?

It's the exact same reasons that Russia wouldn't use them in Ukraine.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Apart from nuclear (which would also wipe out Russia) how does he actually propose to attack the UK? With what? How does he get his army and ships here? They'd get destroyed the second they entered any NATO area. Their air force is inferior to the UK's, let alone NATO, his Navy would last 5 minutes against the Royal Navy and his Army is a creaking load of wank.

If he tried the nuclear option than a) bye bye Russia and b) at least half his missiles would probably malfunction.
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That's an interesting bit of wishful thinking.

Trident missiles regularly fail their periodic testing, as do American minuteman missiles.

Russia still maintains a large strategic bombing capability that has the means to reach the UK very easily from the North. Britain's surface to air defences are extremely limited. The Royal Navy is now so small and under equipped that it would provide almost no defensive capability.

Our armed forces have been underfunded and slashed for 3 decades, whilst changing to a counter-insurgency doctrine.

N.B. I'm not saying Russia could take the UK, but they could do an awful lot of damage.
 
Chunkylad said:
He may well want to press the big red buttons but the men or women tasked with doing it would tell him where to go.
They’ve all got families and know it’s a ludicrous suicide step. No chance whatsoever
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Agree. He is desperate and capable enough of giving the instruction but those involved will know that they and their families and everything they have worked for will be destroyed.
 
GeminiPool said:
That's an interesting bit of wishful thinking.

Trident missiles regularly fail their periodic testing, as do American minuteman missiles.

Russia still maintains a large strategic bombing capability that has the means to reach the UK very easily from the North. Britain's surface to air defences are extremely limited. The Royal Navy is now so small and under equipped that it would provide almost no defensive capability.

Our armed forces have been underfunded and slashed for 3 decades, whilst changing to a counter-insurgency doctrine.

N.B. I'm not saying Russia could take the UK, but they could do an awful lot of damage.
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You have missed out the capabilities of the RAF for some reason 👀
 
EagleDay said:
I have to admit, I thought the Russkies were a more efficient killing machine than they are, I think they would be a pushover for the WW2 Wermacht these days.
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The whole country's massively corrupt, this feeds through into the officer corps, who are also incompetent and corrupt, which means the leadership is poor, which then feeds into the training the troops receive, because the officers don't know how to do it and resources that are meant to be going into that get syphoned off instead.

Similarly, equipment ends up badly maintained or goes missing completely, and is never as good as what it was claimed to be in the first place, so what they end up with is a badly trained, poorly led and unmotivated force with substandard equipment that has nowhere near the combat power it should have.
 
Being reported that a Russian TV host has said one nuclear missile would drown the uk once and for all. A single launch Boris and there is no England at all, he said
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Well away from sellafield.
However If one went off I’d have time to jog to the pub and go out in stile. 🍻

I wouldn't be over confident of our navy and airforce taking out Putins.
We may well have the best hardware but sheer numbers alone would count in the end.
Russia has 10 times more aircraft, surface ships, submarines, and aircraft and don’t be fooled not everything Russia has is as old as the Moskva was.
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.........but, they're struggling with Ukraine. Who'd have thought that?
 
Matesrates said:
Being reported that a Russian TV host has said one nuclear missile would drown the uk once and for all. A single launch Boris and there is no England at all, he said
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Indeed. But the consequences to Russia from a NATO retaliation would put Russia out of the game also.
It’s not as though they can just nuke us and carry on as normal.
 
Bend it like Suddick said:
.........but, they're struggling with Ukraine. Who'd have thought that?
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Exactly. Again, if you rule out nuclear weapons, Russia wouldn’t last 10 minutes against NATO. 30 member states, a good proportion of whom have very effective forces, let off the leash to strike wherever they want.
The UK armed forces might not have the numbers it once had, but to suggest we’re impotent is ridiculous. There’s no point having 10 times the troops/planes/ships etc, when your command structure is so corrupt and inept that you can’t feed your troops or fuel up your vehicles. Add to that that most of your troops don’t want to be there and are so inexperienced that they can’t operate their kit properly.

I’m not saying it would be pleasant, but the Russians must now know what’s in store.
 
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