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Pauls_Boutique

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Had a Blackpool fan text in saying Appleton should have been kept on, presenter mentioned that wasn’t the feeling he had got from the majority of fans.

I agree that there has been no change since Appleton was sacked, and a temporary manager situation is going to look a bit silly if/when we get relegated but am interested in the general feeling now?

For what it’s worth I think he shouldnt have got the job in the first place and should have been sacked at the World Cup break to give a new, permanent, manager time to look at what he had for 4 weeks and before a transfer window.
 
The board got caught between two strategies. If they wanted a change of manager they should have been more decisive and made the call before the World Cup. It would have given the new man chance to assess and coach the squad and have input into the transfer window. There were also better options around then.

Instead, we faffed about, looked like we were sticking with the incumbent manager, backed him to get in his players, then binned him off anyway and bought in someone who wasn't interested in the new recruits and instead wanted their own.

I'd have understood the board having the courage of their convictions in either acting early to change the manager, or in backing Appleton and sticking with him. I can't understand the way we have gone about it. Fucked everyone.
 
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I listened to radio lancs as well.
Some interesting thoughts from the former professional player (cant remember his name ), about McCarthy.
He thought that McCarthy was more of an arm round the shoulder manager, but he felt that Blackpool needed a manager who would come in like a hurricane.
 
Appleton was the wrong appointment initially , the board made that worse by not backing him b4 the season, we then sold Bowler had horrendous injuries but we're still just above relegation, we then brought in a couple of players he needed for his style of play before sacking him 1 game later for a manager with a totally different style of play who didn't want them players.
I can't believe the incompetence to be totally honest. It reads like a How to on getting relegated. Every decision has seemed to just made things worse.
 
Pauls_Boutique said:
Had a Blackpool fan text in saying Appleton should have been kept on, presenter mentioned that wasn’t the feeling he had got from the majority of fans.

I agree that there has been no change since Appleton was sacked, and a temporary manager situation is going to look a bit silly if/when we get relegated but am interested in the general feeling now?

For what it’s worth I think he shouldnt have got the job in the first place and should have been sacked at the World Cup break to give a new, permanent, manager time to look at what he had for 4 weeks and before a transfer window.
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I agree with whoever sent the text and it wasn’t me
 
To be honest im getting fed up of he should have been sacked during the World Cup nonsense! That would have been just over three months since the start of the season ffs, we didn’t have a bad August, September was ok ish October was good , the only poor month was November all yep all 12 days of it😯 after the break we played well in every game bar Middlesbrough, we held our own against a good Watford team for 75 mins and then bang 🙁
 
Macs tangerine army said:
To be honest im getting fed up of he should have been sacked during the World Cup nonsense! That would have been just over three months since the start of the season ffs, we didn’t have a bad August, September was ok ish October was good , the only poor month was November all yep all 12 days of it😯 after the break we played well in every game bar Middlesbrough, we held our own against a good Watford team for 75 mins and then bang 🙁
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We went into the relegation zone after that wigan game. Of course it was the right time. Like others have said, he shouldn't have even been appointed in the first place.
 
Larryknows said:
Appleton was the wrong appointment initially , the board made that worse by not backing him b4 the season, we then sold Bowler had horrendous injuries but we're still just above relegation, we then brought in a couple of players he needed for his style of play before sacking him 1 game later for a manager with a totally different style of play who didn't want them players.
I can't believe the incompetence to be totally honest. It reads like a How to on getting relegated. Every decision has seemed to just made things worse.
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What was Appleton's style of play?
 
Amazingly, despite 1 win in 17, the only people I don't blame are the players! Assuming McCarthy doesn't stay at the end of the season and we appoint someone else, that would mean four managers in 12 months. The players haven't really stood a chance this season.
Wrong appointments, too many injury prone signings, selling our best player right at the end of the transfer window, signing a player in Poveda who then doesn't get played due to attitude but then not sending him back in January and.... continuing to not play him. This season has just been one mistake after another, a catalogue of errors that has been the direct cause of what will probably be our fate.

These mistakes have now been made - it's done and in a way it's pointless getting down about it. All we can do is keep supporting the team and getting behind the players on matchday. But what we really need to see at the end of this season is a fundamental change in how the board approach football related activities. If that means getting someone in the boardroom with some real football knowledge then so be it. I don't ever want to see such a deeply unpopular manager being appointed again, for example. We cannot have another summer of terrible decision making because there's no doubt about it that this season has been excruciatingly painful, and there's only so many of those kind of seasons that many fans will accept before they start spending their Saturday's doing something else. As it stands I think there's enough goodwill in the tank, but it won't last forever. Let's get back to what we were doing well during 20/21, which was basically working to a coherent strategy.
 
Pauls_Boutique said:
Had a Blackpool fan text in saying Appleton should have been kept on, presenter mentioned that wasn’t the feeling he had got from the majority of fans.

I agree that there has been no change since Appleton was sacked, and a temporary manager situation is going to look a bit silly if/when we get relegated but am interested in the general feeling now?

For what it’s worth I think he shouldnt have got the job in the first place and should have been sacked at the World Cup break to give a new, permanent, manager time to look at what he had for 4 weeks and before a transfer window.
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I agree with all of that but to sack Appleton in mid Jan when he had been very closely involved in the signing of 6 players in the Jan transfer window and had the strongest squad available to him all season and then to bring in Mick McCarthy is likely to go down as one of the worst decisions in BFC’s history. Let’s focus on what actually happened rather than what should have happened. McCarthy hadn’t worked for 15 months and the last time he did work he lost his final 8 Championship games on the bounce at Cardiff. Was McCarthy up to speed on this season’s Championship and the Blackpool squad, I don’t believe he was and “ learning on the job “ has cost us points this season. Yes I would agree McCarthy has a good CV but his achievements were many years ago and there was a very good reason why he has not had any interviews despite submitting multiple job applications over the last 15 months. Just as Critch would often say about some injured players being back on the grass, McCarthy needs to be put out to grass. I don’t know if Appleton would have kept us up this season but I strongly believe we would be in a better position, points wise today, if we had given Appleton until the end of Feb. I feel under McCarthy we are sleepwalking towards inevitable relegation but I still hope I am proven wrong and a miracle does happen.
 
Ball on Fire said:
I agree with all of that but to sack Appleton in mid Jan when he had been very closely involved in the signing of 6 players in the Jan transfer window and had the strongest squad available to him all season and then to bring in Mick McCarthy is likely to go down as one of the worst decisions in BFC’s history. Let’s focus on what actually happened rather than what should have happened. McCarthy hadn’t worked for 15 months and the last time he did work he lost his final 8 Championship games on the bounce at Cardiff. Was McCarthy up to speed on this season’s Championship and the Blackpool squad, I don’t believe he was and “ learning on the job “ has cost us points this season. Yes I would agree McCarthy has a good CV but his achievements were many years ago and there was a very good reason why he has not had any interviews despite submitting multiple job applications over the last 15 months. Just as Critch would often say about some injured players being back on the grass, McCarthy needs to be put out to grass. I don’t know if Appleton would have kept us up this season but I strongly believe we would be in a better position, points wise today, if we had given Appleton until the end of Feb. I feel under McCarthy we are sleepwalking towards inevitable relegation but I still hope I am proven wrong and a miracle does happen.
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Learning on the job - you nailed it.
Doing things we could all see weren't going to work and then probably realizing that himself 🤔
 
Yes learning on the job is a good expression. The constant changing in big numbers of the starting 11 doesn’t exactly strike you as someone who knew the players, their best positions, their strengths & weaknesses etc.
 
The World Cup break gave Appleton a chance to regroup, to rally his men and get some back from injury. Because of these positives it is right that he was retained. The way things played out after the WC made it inevitable that he should be dismissed.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
The World Cup break gave Appleton a chance to regroup, to rally his men and get some back from injury. Because of these positives it is right that he was retained. The way things played out after the WC made it inevitable that he should be dismissed.
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The month of November prior to the international break was a disastrous month for Blackpool and Appleton, 4 losses and only 1 goal scored. After the international break in Dec, Appleton‘s Blackpool drew 4 games and lost 1 game (2-1 to Sheff Utd) plus we beat Notts Forest 4-1 in the FA Cup. We weren’t winning League games, Pool fans were calling for Appleton to be sacked and I believe the BFC Board decision to sack Appleton in mid Jan had already been taken before we played Watford away. I am not aware of any key players coming back from injury in Dec and Appleton never got the chance to bed in the 6 new signings in the Jan transfer window. As I said at the time I would have given Appleton at least another month to turn the situation around.
 
Pauls_Boutique said:
Yes learning on the job is a good expression. The constant changing in big numbers of the starting 11 doesn’t exactly strike you as someone who knew the players, their best positions, their strengths & weaknesses etc.
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Teaching an old dog new tricks is perhaps an equally relevant expression.
 
McCarthy has said several times that Terry Connor or TC (Top Coach) as McCarthy refers to him is working very closely with the Blackpool strikers every day and he will get them scoring regularly again. After 8 games under McCarthy, our 3 strikers — Yates, Madine, and Lavery have not scored a goal between them. We have scored a total of 6 goals in those 8 games and Carey is top scorer with 2 goals. We won’t stay up if this goal drought continues.
 
Ball on Fire said:
McCarthy has said several times that Terry Connor or TC (Top Coach) as McCarthy refers to him is working very closely with the Blackpool strikers every day and he will get them scoring regularly again. After 8 games under McCarthy, our 3 strikers — Yates, Madine, and Lavery have not scored a goal between them. We have scored a total of 6 goals in those 8 games and Carey is top scorer with 2 goals. We won’t stay up if this goal drought continues.
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Since Conner has been working with the strikers:

Yates - injured
Lavery - injured
Beasley - injured
Madine - 4 game suspension

Whatever Conner has been doing with these guys I REALLY hope he does something else!!
 
Pauls_Boutique said:
Since Conner has been working with the strikers:

Yates - injured
Lavery - injured
Beasley - injured
Madine - 4 game suspension

Whatever Conner has been doing with these guys I REALLY hope he does something else!!
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Sounds to me like TC hasn‘t got a leg to stand on!! Does TC now stand for Terry’s Crocks?
 
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It seems to me we have a problem regarding managers or the lack of them,if we go down or not at the end of the season we will have no manager if MM goes as he says he will, why not try a new young manager eg Stephen Dobbie to work with him until the end of the season that way he will get to know the players and what is required for next season when he can take over from MM, he has been doing a dam fine job with the development squad up till last night but you can't win em all. But we will probably go for someone who has been sacked a dozen or more times spend a wad of cash on new players and get nowhere again you know it makes sense.😊
 
Ball on Fire said:
The month of November prior to the international break was a disastrous month for Blackpool and Appleton, 4 losses and only 1 goal scored. After the international break in Dec, Appleton‘s Blackpool drew 4 games and lost 1 game (2-1 to Sheff Utd) plus we beat Notts Forest 4-1 in the FA Cup. We weren’t winning League games, Pool fans were calling for Appleton to be sacked and I believe the BFC Board decision to sack Appleton in mid Jan had already been taken before we played Watford away. I am not aware of any key players coming back from injury in Dec and Appleton never got the chance to bed in the 6 new signings in the Jan transfer window. As I said at the time I would have given Appleton at least another month to turn the situation around.
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The moment we lost at Wigan, with 4 weeks break followed by a transfer window was the time to sack Appleton. The manner in which we lost, with an unfathomable decision not to make any subs until the 89th minute was shocking management.

The crowd singing Sacked in the morning possibly saved him, as the board wouldn't want to look like they were bowing to fan pressure.

For me, that's when it became really hard to stay up, as weeks were wasted drifting along with no signs of improvement. A change had to be made, unfortunately it hasn't had the desired effect to date.
 
HodderSeasider said:
Our current board's record of appointing managers is abject. Only Critch can be counted as a success, so I don't hold out much hope for their choice for next season!
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They actually make Karl seem semi-competent in the interview process.
Are they actually just pretending to do interviews, then go, ”let’s appoint our mate”?
 
Easy to say now, but yeah.

Like others have said it seemed like MM didn't know a thing about us. Surely a successful guy managing billions of dollars would make sure at least that the guy he brings in knows his task back to front. They might not have been "names" but surely there's ex managers who make it their job when not employed to study teams they have a chance of a job at.
 
Wizaard said:
The moment we lost at Wigan, with 4 weeks break followed by a transfer window was the time to sack Appleton. The manner in which we lost, with an unfathomable decision not to make any subs until the 89th minute was shocking management.

The crowd singing Sacked in the morning possibly saved him, as the board wouldn't want to look like they were bowing to fan pressure.

For me, that's when it became really hard to stay up, as weeks were wasted drifting along with no signs of improvement. A change had to be made, unfortunately it hasn't had the desired effect to date.
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Yes I agree the time to sack Appleton was in early Dec, four losses in the month of Nov including Wigan away, 22 points from 21 games must have been raising alarm bells. When this opportunity was not taken, I would not have sacked Appleton in mid Jan after signing 6 new players in the Jan transfer window, I would have given Appleton until the end of Feb (Reading game) to integrate the new players and turn the situation around. The signings of Bowler, Rogers, Trybull, Goode, Nelson and Lyons plus the return of some players from long term injuries did give me confidence that we would have a better second half of the season and would not be relegated.

For me it has become really hard to stay up since McCarthy became Manager, he was the wrong appointment at the wrong time. I have seen nothing so far under McCarthy that gives me any confidence we will avoid relegation and as you say “ we are drifting along with no signs of improvement “. How long would you give McCarthy before trying something else?
 
Ball on Fire said:
Yes I agree the time to sack Appleton was in early Dec, four losses in the month of Nov including Wigan away, 22 points from 21 games must have been raising alarm bells. When this opportunity was not taken, I would not have sacked Appleton in mid Jan after signing 6 new players in the Jan transfer window, I would have given Appleton until the end of Feb (Reading game) to integrate the new players and turn the situation around. The signings of Bowler, Rogers, Trybull, Goode, Nelson and Lyons plus the return of some players from long term injuries did give me confidence that we would have a better second half of the season and would not be relegated.

For me it has become really hard to stay up since McCarthy became Manager, he was the wrong appointment at the wrong time. I have seen nothing so far under McCarthy that gives me any confidence we will avoid relegation and as you say “ we are drifting along with no signs of improvement “. How long would you give McCarthy before trying something else?
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Too late to change again. We have to see the season out one way or another.

In McCarthy's defence, ever since he came in its been constant Tuesday, Saturday, Tuesday games.

Just maybe we'll see an improvement for a week on the training ground? Straw, clutch....
 
Wizaard said:
Too late to change again. We have to see the season out one way or another.

In McCarthy's defence, ever since he came in its been constant Tuesday, Saturday, Tuesday games.

Just maybe we'll see an improvement for a week on the training ground? Straw, clutch....
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McCarthy will get you picking points up though it won’t happen overnight wouldn’t be surprised if you got something against the clarets.
Looking at your remaining fixtures you probably have the most winnable matches of your rivals ..
Its Blackpools to lose .
 
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