Wizaard
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Like Grayson and Hendry, both former players
Raggys rant
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JJpool
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I think you need to remember back to the Oystons if you think we're not far removed from them in how we go into seasons.
We only had 8 players at one time just before the season.
Blackpool FC fans furious as squad still has only eight players
With two weeks to go until the new Championship season kicks off, Blackpool only have eight contracted players, leaving their fans angry and worried about relegation
www.telegraph.co.uk
Critchley had an embarrassment of riches really.
It's only this summer we had a few places missing, not ideal, but we had Gabriel on the books, Connolly is a decent utility player.
The sqaud is far better than most put together under the Oystons ffs. We then added after the window.
It wasn't a great summer and mistakes made, but just not comparable to them. We still spent some decent money.
clappers
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I don’t feel particularly spoilt over the last 12 months, to be honest. But if we do have a spoilt fanbase the way you deal with it is like a patient parent explaining and giving encouragement ….not getting the leather belt out and whacking them with an open letter saying “we know what we are doing and look it’s working so you plebs know phook all and any more trouble I’ll give you six of the best.” Massive mistake that’s made it all much much worse now it’s inevitably turned to shit again under Crappleton
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Sooty59
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I drove past Bolton’s ground yesterday & it looks good, whether we like it or not they have a bigger fan base than us. It will cost compo & a bigger wage than he’s on (which could rise if they really want to keep him) so unless he has a real desire to return I very much doubt it happening. We missed that boat some time ago. However it would show ambition if we could pull it off.
Seaside of life
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Do you know how much the club is losing? Has lost since SS too over?
He is literally spunking his cash into BFC.
I think the fans should put their hands in their pockets more. Maybe sell shares.
FFS you see threads on here moaning about ticket prices!!!!!!
ive never once moaned about prices but it’s the championship ffs
clappers
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He’s not leaving Bolton at this point. Our fantastic board for some reason thought it best to insult his application on grounds of inexperience and dismissed him out of hand by all accounts… so even if he was minded to take the risk on a lower end Championship team rescue job it won’t be with us.
I wouldn't call an embarrassment of riches having to start a first season in the championship with a left back and a right winger as his midfield and a midfielder at right back like Critchley had to, I'm sure he wouldn't have at the time anyway but just had to find a way. My point is if we end up playing catch up and sending patched up teams out with a manager saying he's doing the best he can, then we can't really be surprised when it can't be sustained. And when that manager looks and sounds like he's always just missed the last bus home and seemingly isn't the best at getting a lot out of a little then it puts things into that sharper focus.I think you need to remember back to the Oystons if you think we're not far removed from them in how we go into seasons.
We only had 8 players at one time just before the season.
Blackpool FC fans furious as squad still has only eight players
With two weeks to go until the new Championship season kicks off, Blackpool only have eight contracted players, leaving their fans angry and worried about relegation
Critchley had an embarrassment of riches really.
It's only this summer we had a few places missing, not ideal, but we had Gabriel on the books, Connolly is a decent utility player.
The sqaud is far better than most put together under the Oystons ffs. We then added after the window.
It wasn't a great summer and mistakes made, but just not comparable to them. We still spent some decent money.
I'm not sure how much more can be done this month to plug gaps but it needs a hard reset this summer and as soon as we know what league we're in. We're obviously going to get something along those lines anyway because there won't be many left on the books if options aren't taken up and when loans go back. But I'm hoping for a more sensible approach. Pre-contracts agreed early to sign on the first day they can be registered. I honestly don't mind whether Appleton remains a part of that and if he can get in who he thinks can make his playing idea work better. But whatever we have in place we've got to stick to and become that club.
1966_and_all_that
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Importantly, Bolton and Blackburn - even Wigan - were well ahead of us in getting their clubs into shape infrastructure-wise, so they are in a better position to concentrate on the football side today. Our time will come but we have catching up to do.
Adams Kebab
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Ryan Wintle sorted our shit start to last season.
People think Patino and Carey is a weak centre midfield, fuckin hell James and Ward was pathetic
Oh and that shit start coincided with… (drum roll)
Callum Connolly right back.
Just like Knob End away.
tangysider
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Think Dobbie is worth serious consideration when the inevitable happens. Do not think he is ready yet but with a strong experienced no2 who knows. Plus points are his affinity to the area and his knowledge of Scottish football which historically has delivered us gems,and crucially he will already be wanting blackpool youth players to make the first team.
Did see him with the development team and he works them hard and seemed to talk a lot of sense.
hertfordseasider
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This is exactly the point Raggy was making yesterday and what I have been going on about for ages, "We may not be ready for the Championship" FFS, why aren't we? We are there, but we are plummeting down to League 1, when will we be ready, what is Sadler\s aim? A league 1 club that gets in the Championship every now and again That'snot what we should aiming for. We should be aiming for the EPL, that should be the ultimate goal and the standard should be the Championship. What's the matter with some of you?
Sadler bought the club knowing full well what was needed, anyone who bought the club HAD to spend millions to sort out the mess it was left in, if he didn't then he was a fool. If I had his money and bought the club I would know that needed doing, we all would, but my ambition would be what I mentioned above and I would be shouting from the rooftops, but as I said if I had his money there is no way I would buy the club, but he has, he's lucky to have that amount to spend, I'm not going to go all gooey eyed because he has put some money into the club. You have to remember the club was a bargain and because of that it has value in the future, so he had to invest to bring it up to scratch otherwise he really would have been spunking his money away.
He won't be securing the club's long term future if we end up as a League 1 club with an average crowd of 8,000 if he's lucky and people walking around the town in United, City & Liverpool shirts. If he hasn't got ambition for the club then I'm sorry but he needs to either change his attitude to the football side of the club or he needs to get someone on who can do it for him so he can sit back more, BB is certainly not that person!
JJpool
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It's pretty obvious who would would be a popular ex player.Like Grayson and Hendry, both former players
Wizaard
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If we go back to League One we'll be averaging a lot less than 8,000. Nearer 5,000.
hertfordseasider
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I was being unusually optimistic Phil, I don't get this lack of ambition from our supporters, I know you don't have it, you are the most optimistic supporter we have, but so many think we are little old Blackpool, maybe because that's all they really know, we were lucky enough to have been supporters at the tail end of a very long successful stay in the top flight. However, as was said last night on the Pod, there are lots of new young supporters who have known the EPL year and they will want a team who has ambition, who will be in the Championship striving for the EPL, that's life, if we end up a a bog standard League 1 side they will disappear and go and support City or United.
Sadler and Mansford, and some of the supporters have really disappointed me in this ** little old Blackpool Bollocks, we need a change of thought, we need a VB and an Ian Holloway, they believed and look what happened, this peas are green, gray anorak vision needs putting in room 101.
Costero Poderoso
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i really dont get this whole thing that we are not financially equipped to compete in the championship. we dont have the crowds, etc etc. but half the sides in the championship have similar crowds to us. ok some of them have rich or / and reckless owners, and are prepared to spend stupid money on players who are in many cases barely championship standard. most of the success on the sporting side anyway lies in using the resources correctly, millwall seem to be able to do that this year, even knobberville seem almost competent this year.
ducks need to be lined up as somone says, i think the squad was good enough at the start of the season to maintain champs status, new players should have seen us good enough for easy midtable, the management team have made mistakes but i cant fault SS's role. except maybe the appointment of appleton, in my mind he is the weak link.
ducks need to be lined up as somone says, i think the squad was good enough at the start of the season to maintain champs status, new players should have seen us good enough for easy midtable, the management team have made mistakes but i cant fault SS's role. except maybe the appointment of appleton, in my mind he is the weak link.
JJpool
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You said Critchleys first season, clearly that was in league 1. He was heavily backed as I said, an embarrassment of riches.
We brought in some amazing quality.
In the championship we also brought in some great players, yes we had to wait but then paid about 700k for Gabriel for eg.
A lot of deals do happen near the end of the window so only fair to judge the whole window.
The point is not that we've been perfect, most clubs have positions they want filling still, but your initial point comparing it to the Oystons was wrong.
It's been nothing like that, we've had far better sqauds and spent money way beyond anything they would do.
JJpool
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Na. It would be more than that, get everyone back on board, cheaper price, winning far more and nearer the top.
Adams Kebab
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I think there’s a few people at the Club picking up decent wages who need to hear that.
That letter from Sadler pre-season still makes me cringe now. “Callum Connolly scored and people say we need a right back”
That’s the way I look at that at the moment, from the appointment to the letter to the pricing… not in touch with the fans.
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Wizaard
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I was thinking back to 78/79 when we dropped from 10,000ish to 5,000 at the start of the season.
Either way, I'm sure gates would plummet.
Wizzerboy
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He enlists the help from the Royal marines.
FFS Some players at Blackpool only have to sit on a kitchen stool to out for the season.
Can you imagine the injury list if the marines took training
Critchley started the league one season with Michael Nottingham at centre half and Ethan Robson & MJ Williams for midfield and it got canned as you could tell it wasn't going to cut it for him. As well as him looking a mile off it himself by having taken on his first senior role without anyone insisting on putting an experienced backup with him. Until that eventually got addressed as well.
I don't expect us to start a season with 8 players again as that was a mad KO/Riga stand off thing. I don't expect the volume of trialists that had to be sifted through by the likes of Ince either because they give out two year contracts not one now. But I do expect to see a pre-season patch up job using youth players so the few seniors can get their prep time in. I still expect to see the first round of the league cup passed up as an unwanted extra game. And I still expect to see a transfer window to close and then have to grab at a Liam Bridcutt type when all else has failed.
We start seasons slow and underprepared. That's us. It's not changed a vast amount. Just have to hope in this one we finish it a lot stronger somehow now. I don't know if Appleton going or becoming a born-again smiler can give us that spark alone but we need something.
FY8Southstander
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Knighthood for Raggy
Wizaard
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But because of those longer contracts, we didn't have to sign vast amounts of new players. I wonder if Critchley was still here whether the likes of Casey and Tharme would maybe still here, again giving us more depth. It will be interesting to see if any of the long term injuries suddenly improve with a change at the top.
I don't think Critchley was overly enamoured with the transfer business tbh. Casey would have been the one where you thought OK is he the new Dan Ballard then and going to learn on the job in the championship. But he got kicked into touch straight away for Keogh. Tharme random punt left where he was at Southport. Why. Beesley was rejected until he had enough points where it didn't matter if he got a run out or not. Dale, what was that about. So not sure really.
1966_and_all_that
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Hertford,
This is what I meant about over-cooking the anxiety. I don't for one moment believe that Simon Sadler wants us to be a League One/Championship yo-yo team. I certainly don't. However, the timescales for progression may not be as instantaneous as you want. It could be 3-5 years before we're ready for a top of the Championship challenge. Look how long it's taken Arsenal to become competitive again following g the move to the Emirates. Try to be more patient.
LancasterLad
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Thank the Lord Saddler that all this is water under the bridge UTMP
JJpool
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Maybe they did hear it.I think there’s a few people at the Club picking up decent wages who need to hear that.
That letter from Sadler pre-season still makes me cringe now. “Callum Connolly scored and people say we need a right back”
That’s the way I look at that at the moment, from the appointment to the letter to the pricing… not in touch with the fans.
As for the Connolly comment I think he was trying to quell fears.
Let's face it Connolly has been a decent cover. He hasn't been badly exposed or an obvious weak link.
We also had Gabriel.
They knew we needed someone hence going for Lyons. But rather than compromise and go elsewhere they had to wait until Jan.
It wasn’t a great summer and mistakes were made, but I have no doubt they tried.
Not like under the Oystons as someone else claimed.
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JJpool
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He still had a very competitive squad in the end, you have to judge a window in its entirety.
Even in our worst window so far it was still miles better than what the Oystons offered. It's daft to compare back to the extreme shitness that existed back them.