Right then time to sort this shite out

Phil_bfc deux said:
If we are going to carry on with this ponderous way of playing with wide men on the wrong fcuking side then Critchley need backing in the window with a couple of proper wing backs who can defend as well as being able to cross the flaming ball as we actually have strikers this season who thrive in the box

3 at the back isn't the problem it just means we can't play our best defender in it as he can't pass the ball for toffee so again a ball playing centre half is needed

Its all a bit disjointed again which after the cluster fuck of last season is really unacceptable

There is no atmosphere and any feal good factor has well and truly gone as we are sleep walking to mid table mediocrity

All isn't lost though we just need to play quicker with people in their correct positions, looks like Kenny and Marv are off as well, so its a big window again for the man at the top

Also a more general point about this site, can the moderators please stop trying to control debate on the OT section by selective deleting and editing of posts, it really is quite pathetic just trying to censor debate and push a left wing agenda all the time

All the best
Phil
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Oi oi Phil

I posted similar the other day, it’s good way of weeding out some of our plebby fans that post on here…

UTMP💪⚽️
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
As I've said many times you don't buy a football club unless you are willing to bank role it to the some of tens of millions and everytime folk are critical of the owner we are told he puts his own money in
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You may say it many times, but that does not make it true.

Not all people who buy football clubs are willing to bank role (sic) to the tune of "tens of millions", nor should they be expected to. Not all owners will have that sort of money.

However they should invest what they can, be good custodians and have the best interest of the club at heart - which I think Sadler has...
 
The past 2 January windows have been absolutely shite and expecting Marv & Kenny to go and probably Rhodes, that makes things even more challenging than they have been before. I'm not sure we will get the players we need and losing those 3 will make us much weaker so I can't see anything other than a 14th place finish (Ignore my call to arms post, it was just a bit of fun). Expect 4 out and 2 or 3 in but not what we are hoping for.
 
If you want the the ball crossing from the wings you do not use inverted wing backs
If you want a wing back to come inside and have a shot on goal you don't have 2 forwards and a forward midfielder already there
If you want a 3/5 backline use 5 defenders
Just my opinion
 
Wizaard said:
For arguments sake, Yates was valued at £4 million, and Joseph £1 million. No, we didn't pay, but then, Swansea didn't pay the fee for Yates. If our player has a greater value, why on earth would we be paying our money?
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Didn't it also mean we didn't have to pay as much to Barnsley(reported 20%) on Yates's sell on clause?
 
Matesrates said:
Here’s a radical thought,why not play a system which suits the players we have.
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That particular message doesn't represent so much a radical thought, Matesrates - it's just pure, unadulterated blasphemy! Now, wash your mouth out and stand in the corner (and stay there) until such time as you've seen the error of your ways ...
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
its not huge really, we have the 6th biggest budget in the league and when you consider we were a Championship club last season i think its fair to say we are under performing

As I've said many times you don't buy a football club unless you are willing to bank role it to the some of tens of millions and everytime folk are critical of the owner we are told he puts his own money in

So he fcuking should do
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"... to the 'tune' of tens of millions ..."
 
tarantula said:
That particular message doesn't represent so much a radical thought, Matesrates - it's just pure, unadulterated blasphemy! Now, wash your mouth out and stand in the corner (and stay there) until such time as you've seen the error of your ways ...
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Sorry, I humbly apologise.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
its not huge really, we have the 6th biggest budget in the league and when you consider we were a Championship club last season i think its fair to say we are under performing

As I've said many times you don't buy a football club unless you are willing to bank role it to the some of tens of millions and everytime folk are critical of the owner we are told he puts his own money in

So he fcuking should do
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I always thought that of my parents too.

Who the feck has kids and can’t afford to take them to Disneyland. They properly let me down and tried to fob me off with Butlins or a long coach trip to Torquay.
 
Critchknows said:
I agree that I don't think this season Critch has been told promotion or else and that it has been more a build a team, style and formation and if we do we do.
There's a lot to like about what he's trying to do but the biggest thing that we miss is tempo. At home it is forced on the team by the fans but away we have a tendency to drift through a game and be cautious. I honestly don't think it's an instruction by Critch but more a lack of that one player who forces it on the rest of the team. I like Norburn and think he's a good player and should play but he sets the tempo too slow. I'd like another midfielder who controls the ball much like Bolton have with Josh Sheehan. Hopefully we get that player in.
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"I honestly don't think it's an instruction by Critch but more a lack of that one player who forces it on the rest of the team."

Now there's a surprise! Critches' arch-defender coming out in defence of - Critch!

Surely, if he'd got any b---s, or the necessary insight, Critch should be shouting the house down until such time as he'd been granted that all-important missing link! But no - that's not quite his style, so we plod on instead, with the big 'C' happily making continuing use of 'the tools at his disposal' - an approach which, frankly, is getting us effin nowhere.

If Critchley isn't comfortable with 'ruffling a few feathers', then it's about time we appointed a long overdue successor who is. Because, as things stand, we're not even what you might (charitably) refer to as 'treading water'; instead, we're sinking like a stone.

Sorry, Critchknows, but it's starting to look increasingly like you backed the wrong horse.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
If we are going to carry on with this ponderous way of playing with wide men on the wrong fcuking side then Critchley need backing in the window with a couple of proper wing backs who can defend as well as being able to cross the flaming ball as we actually have strikers this season who thrive in the box

3 at the back isn't the problem it just means we can't play our best defender in it as he can't pass the ball for toffee so again a ball playing centre half is needed

Its all a bit disjointed again which after the cluster fuck of last season is really unacceptable

There is no atmosphere and any feal good factor has well and truly gone as we are sleep walking to mid table mediocrity

All isn't lost though we just need to play quicker with people in their correct positions, looks like Kenny and Marv are off as well, so its a big window again for the man at the top

Also a more general point about this site, can the moderators please stop trying to control debate on the OT section by selective deleting and editing of posts, it really is quite pathetic just trying to censor debate and push a left wing agenda all the time

All the best
Phil
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Welcome back Pip 🧡🧡
 
tarantula said:
"I honestly don't think it's an instruction by Critch but more a lack of that one player who forces it on the rest of the team."

Now there's a surprise! Critches' arch-defender coming out in defence of - Critch!

Surely, if he'd got any b---s, or the necessary insight, Critch should be shouting the house down until such time as he'd been granted that all-important missing link! But no - that's not quite his style, so we plod on instead, with the big 'C' happily making continuing use of 'the tools at his disposal' - an approach which, frankly, is getting us effin nowhere.

If Critchley isn't comfortable with 'ruffling a few feathers', then it's about time we appointed a long overdue successor who is. Because, as things stand, we're not even what you might (charitably) refer to as 'treading water'; instead, we're sinking like a stone.

Sorry, Critchknows, but it's starting to look increasingly like you backed the wrong horse.
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😂😂 Your an angry so and so aren't you 😂😂😂
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Fuck off Critchley time to go you ** snake
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Keep it civil Phil.

He's FA England DNA-trained so how England play is the guts of how we play under him. I don't think we'll ever learn anything new there. A cure for insomnia but a means to an end if it works. However the Critchley we've got back is a mile behind the one who left. I thought that the Mk1 version was learning to adapt and be resourceful about how the EFL works. Maybe it was the hired help all along, who knows. Maybe it was having players with a bit of something about them like Jerry Yates, who he didn't like as he's got a personality. But a team shouldn't have a home and an away game identity so different to each other and yet nothing be done about it.

That said the fish rots from the head down and if there's a bigger problem in the club that's just showing itself then we'll see it in January and what we're left with after. Half expected it with players in the last six months of their contracts but I don't like this Dougall & Ekpiteta situation at all.
 
poolfc said:
Keep it civil Phil.

He's FA England DNA-trained so how England play is the guts of how we play under him. I don't think we'll ever learn anything new there. A cure for insomnia but a means to an end if it works. However the Critchley we've got back is a mile behind the one who left. I thought that the Mk1 version was learning to adapt and be resourceful about how the EFL works. Maybe it was the hired help all along, who knows. Maybe it was having players with a bit of something about them like Jerry Yates, who he didn't like as he's got a personality. But a team shouldn't have a home and an away game identity so different to each other and yet nothing be done about it.

That said the fish rots from the head down and if there's a bigger problem in the club that's just showing itself then we'll see it in January and what we're left with after. Half expected it with players in the last six months of their contracts but I don't like this Dougall & Ekpiteta situation at all.
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Fair points

My 16 year old said the same regarding Critchley just being a shitter version of Gareth Southgate

What is the point of CJ playing so wide if he has to either cut back in, pass it back or cross it out of play with his weak foot

Dale did well when he came on but should have been on the other side

Its wank just like our owner and transfer/ recruitment policy

All this talk of changing shape isn't the issue to me it's the personal and the instructions that are the problem

A 442 wouldn't suit Dembele for example and a 433 wouldn't suit Rhodes
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Fair points

My 16 year old said the same regarding Critchley just being a shitter version of Gareth Southgate

What is the point of CJ playing so wide if he has to either cut back in, pass it back of cross it out of play with his weak foot

Its wank just like our owner and transfer/ recruitment policy

All this talk of changing shape isn't the issue to me it's the personal and the instructions that is the problem

A 442 wouldn't suit Dembele for example and a 433 wouldn't suit Rhodes
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Yeah he is. The FA's idea is we're a kick and rush nation with low technical ability players but we can ride out games against proper teams by playing keep ball and hoping something lands to a couple of the standouts, like Kane and now Bellingham.

Tbh when we signed Dembele and Rhodes I thought it was players Critchley was waiting on to go 4-4-2. Dembele in the sort of mill-about-a-bit role off the left like Anderson & Kaikai. Rhodes to make up for ballsing up over swapping Yates for whatever Swansea had left in their broom cupboard etc.

But sticking with the wonky half-shape 3-5-2 whatever it is and no matter what, that wasn't what the Critchley we first had was doing. He'd usually come up with something to get us out of a rut. But it's basically only going to be as good as Dembele & Rhodes are productive.
 
poolfc said:
Yeah he is. The FA's idea is we're a kick and rush nation with low technical ability players but we can ride out games against proper teams by playing keep ball and hoping something lands to a couple of the standouts, like Kane and now Bellingham.

Tbh when we signed Dembele and Rhodes I thought it was players Critchley was waiting on to go 4-4-2. Dembele in the sort of mill-about-a-bit role off the left like Anderson & Kaikai. Rhodes to make up for ballsing up over swapping Yates for whatever Swansea had left in their broom cupboard etc.

But sticking with the wonky half-shape 3-5-2 whatever it is and no matter what, that wasn't what the Critchley we first had was doing. He'd usually come up with something to get us out of a rut. But it's basically only going to be as good as Dembele & Rhodes are productive.
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I like Dembele but I don't think he's a 10 to me he looks more like a wide man in a fluid 433, Rhodes can't play in that though so maybe you are right

I don't know anymore I think the whole recruitment policy is more about who's available for 3 or 4k a week rather than what actually fits into a particular style of play
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
I like Dembele but I don't think he's a 10 to me he looks more like a wide man in a fluid 433, Rhodes can't play in that though so maybe you are right

I don't know anymore I think the whole recruitment policy is more about who's available for 3 or 4k a week rather than what actually fits into a particular style of play
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Yes there doesn't seem to be much of a plan other than see what pops up and shoehorn them in. That's where it's on Critchley to earn his keep and make more out of less. Get a rag tag bunch believing they can do anything but keep it real too. CJ is not Phil Foden.
 
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