RIP little kid.

BigHandsOliverKahn said:
The NHS is finished as a service you can rely on. It's time to stop pretending. If you want guarantees then you have to pay privately.
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The NHS is far from finished. I've recently been going through some treatment and it's been excellent.
You just hope it's finished because it suits your agenda.
Let's revisit your prediction in 2 years, then 5 years, then 10 years. I'll put you any amount
of money on it the NHS is still there.
 
RUSTY_2_STANDS said:
The NHS is far from finished. I've recently been going through some treatment and it's been excellent.
You just hope it's finished because it suits your agenda.
Let's revisit your prediction in 2 years, then 5 years, then 10 years. I'll put you any amount
of money on it the NHS is still there.
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Any sensible person's agenda would be that it's fully funded and well run. As I said earlier, it plays into the hands of the Tories to pronounce it dead and in effect, ask for privatisation.
 
Wizaard said:
Any sensible person's agenda would be that it's fully funded and well run. As I said earlier, it plays into the hands of the Tories to pronounce it dead and in effect, ask for privatisation.
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It's certainly a huge problem and I suspect will be for successive governments, as it has been in the past.
It's a huge organisation which swallows billions of pounds a year.
We'd all love to see a fully funded and well run NHS. To me it should be the number one priority
of every government. I'd happily pay more tax if I knew it was going to the NHS.
But as people live longer and medicine advances it's not likely to get any cheaper to run either.
What the answer to spiralling costs is, I don't know.
But I honestly believe the NHS is too precious and too close to the heart of the British public
for any government, no matter what colour, to dare abolish it.
I can only speak from experience. The treatment I've received from the NHS recently and in the past has been excellent.
 
RUSTY_2_STANDS said:
The NHS is far from finished. I've recently been going through some treatment and it's been excellent.
You just hope it's finished because it suits your agenda.
Let's revisit your prediction in 2 years, then 5 years, then 10 years. I'll put you any amount
of money on it the NHS is still there.
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I said "as a service you can rely on". You chose to alter that to rambling on about it not existing.

I have been waiting 6 months now for an appointment on something routine. 6 months and that was after having to chase them up multiple times. In fact, the issue has almost cleared itself up in the meantime through self diagnosed treatment. Sadly though, plenty of people with more serious matters will end up dead due to a 6 month delay. It's now an unreliable service and will keep getting worse as the country's economic decline continues.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
I said "as a service you can rely on". You chose to alter that to rambling on about it not existing.

I have been waiting 6 months now for an appointment on something routine. 6 months and that was after having to chase them up multiple times. In fact, the issue has almost cleared itself up in the meantime through self diagnosed treatment. Sadly though, plenty of people with more serious matters will end up dead due to a 6 month delay. It's now an unreliable service and will keep getting worse as the country's economic decline continues.
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I'm sorry to hear you've had problems with the NHS. I'm sure there are plenty of other people who have as well.
I totally disagree though that the NHS is finished as a service you can rely on.
If push came to shove, I'd much rather have our NHS than any other.
It'll be interesting to hear your views on the NHS after a few years under a Labour government.
The same issues will be there, as it's such a huge problem. Successive governments have tried and failed
to find a solution.
The last Labour government did cut waiting times. But that was partly down to farming treatment out to the private sector
at a huge cost. Maybe that's the solution? I don't know and it would seem the politicians don't know either.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
I said "as a service you can rely on". You chose to alter that to rambling on about it not existing.

I have been waiting 6 months now for an appointment on something routine. 6 months and that was after having to chase them up multiple times. In fact, the issue has almost cleared itself up in the meantime through self diagnosed treatment. Sadly though, plenty of people with more serious matters will end up dead due to a 6 month delay. It's now an unreliable service and will keep getting worse as the country's economic decline continues.
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My daughter works as a community based NHS mental health nurse. Try getting that service consistently and reliably in the private sector. The bigger problem in my view is a wholesale breakdown in our support networks (family and services) coupled with worsening economic and organisational conditions. Many of the things she could (and sometimes, does) do for her clients to help them out are not allowable in the new nursing world driven by academia and career bureaucrats. Two of the GPs directly attached to her service unit have recently gone back to India because they no longer feel welcome in the UK. One of her colleagues visited a client recently who had switched all their electricity off and bought in larges supplies of candles to light and heat their home. These are people with dementia and a whole range of other problems. We are seeing the tip of the iceberg at the moment.
 
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