Rivington isnt that nice surely

Spent many a happy Saturday night at Rivington Barn when living in Chorley, getting back home was the biggest problem in those days.
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
I think most can see what utter nonsense it is to try to regulate people hiking in the fresh air whilst we are being repeatedly assured that it's ' safe ' for children to return to schools
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Yes. Agree, but it's the guidelines and rules that are in place. Whether we like it or not the powers that be deem it safer to go to Asda with another couple of hundred people, rather than hiking or climbing in wide open spaces.
 
There are some nice walks round that area including Anglezarke reservoir. We’d go midweek when it’s allowed to travel that distance for no real reason. Nip into Bolton centre first to Ye Olde Pasty shop, it’s unlikely I’ll be able to wait until we get to the Rivington area before I scoff a couple of pasties, making me hungry now at the thought.

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The West Pennine Moors are beautiful and recently designated an area of SSSI due to the ground nesting birds. It's full of history, Anglezarke moor has ancient monuments (round loaf and pike stones) winter hill has stunning views where you can see four national parks. I love it around this area.
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
I think most can see what utter nonsense it is to try to regulate people hiking in the fresh air whilst we are being repeatedly assured that it's ' safe ' for children to return to schools
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It's certainly nonsensical to expect some of the people of this country to consider the safety of others, that's for sure.
 
GJJW said:
Yes. Agree, but it's the guidelines and rules that are in place. Whether we like it or not the powers that be deem it safer to go to Asda with another couple of hundred people, rather than hiking or climbing in wide open spaces.
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I'm not sure it's even in the rules or guidance, more a case of plod not understanding them and not exercising common sense.
 
GJJW said:
Yes. Agree, but it's the guidelines and rules that are in place. Whether we like it or not the powers that be deem it safer to go to Asda with another couple of hundred people, rather than hiking or climbing in wide open spaces.
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I don’t think there’s too much chance of you slipping on the ice in Asda and needing to call mountain rescue for help and increasing pressure on the NHS.
I think sometimes we get so obsessed with COVID that we forget that we need to try to negate other risks
 
cruzzer said:
Assuming these people are driving to this place, then they risk having an accident or breaking down, or anything else that would require interaction with others. Which of course would not be the case if they stayed home.
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That old chestnut Give over
We are talking about people driving short distances ( no one is advocating driving say 90 mins or more ) to exercise in an area that allows ample numbers to socially distance
At the same time the Govt insists those with children of school age should send them into schools each day and mix with 30+ others ( and the rest ) and then return home and mix with their family who then mix with work colleagues etc etc
The risk factor in comparison must be 1:10,000
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
You’ll have to explain how getting some fresh air on a large hill puts others at risk Robbie as it’s not immediately obvious
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It's not the individual case I'm griping about. What concerns me is the tendency to only follow the rules that suit you. Lots of people do it, and whilst at one end of the spectrum it is people flocking to beauty spots, at the other end it is flocking to raves under motorway flyovers. Two sides of a similar coin for me.

I'd love to go walking every day, it used to be a big part of my daily routine. But the parks are full of joggers panting all over everyone they pass these days and it doesn't feel like it is worth the risk. Let's face it, if I'm ill, it affects a lot more people than just me.
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
That old chestnut Give over
We are talking about people driving short distances ( no one is advocating driving say 90 mins or more ) to exercise in an area that allows ample numbers to socially distance
At the same time the Govt insists those with children of school age should send them into schools each day and mix with 30+ others ( and the rest ) and then return home and mix with their family who then mix with work colleagues etc etc
The risk factor in comparison must be 1:10,000
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Schools that same old chestnut, change the record.

How about the cars that have been towed from Snowdon from London and other areas of the south.

You don’t know how far they’ve travelled for a bit of “fresh” at Rivington.
 
basilrobbie said:
It's not the individual case I'm griping about. What concerns me is the tendency to only follow the rules that suit you. Lots of people do it, and whilst at one end of the spectrum it is people flocking to beauty spots, at the other end it is flocking to raves under motorway flyovers. Two sides of a similar coin for me.

I'd love to go walking every day, it used to be a big part of my daily routine. But the parks are full of joggers panting all over everyone they pass these days and it doesn't feel like it is worth the risk. Let's face it, if I'm ill, it affects a lot more people than just me.
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Here that about parks ( though I still think the risk is low ) but Rivington is big enough to allow for a better spread
I’d much prefer a more nuanced approach to this as the targets you see referenced make zilch sense and as I see that is only going to increase non-compliance

And let’s be right our lawgivers were promoting a 5 day Xmas Jamboree before the truth of what that would entail in deaths finally dawned upon them in a manner akin to being slapped in the face with a frying pan - hardly instills you with a lot of faith in the fact that they know what they are talking about
 
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traffordtang said:
I don’t think there’s too much chance of you slipping on the ice in Asda and needing to call mountain rescue for help and increasing pressure on the NHS.
I think sometimes we get so obsessed with COVID that we forget that we need to try to negate other risks
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That's why I havent been doing my usual trips to the lakes pal.
 
For those who know the area Tockholes has been inundated with walkers. I believe the police visited the place today but not heard what happened.
Yesterday I delivered some furniture to my daughters new house in Bamber Bridge (stayed within our own bubble) and on the way back Belmont was absolutely full of vehicles with everyone taking their kids sledging.
People just do not get it OR they don’t give a monkeys. I’ll go for the latter.
 
cruzzer said:
Schools that same old chestnut, change the record.

How about the cars that have been towed from Snowdon from London and other areas of the south.

You don’t know how far they’ve travelled for a bit of “fresh” at Rivington.
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It says in the article
Worsley / Southport / Greater Manchester
 
Eternaloptimist said:
For those who know the area Tockholes has been inundated with walkers. I believe the police visited the place today but not heard what happened.
Yesterday I delivered some furniture to my daughters new house in Bamber Bridge (stayed within our own bubble) and on the way back Belmont was absolutely full of vehicles with everyone taking their kids sledging.
People just do not get it OR they don’t give a monkeys. I’ll go for the latter.
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Don’t get what ?
You are allowed to travel a reasonable distance to exercise
Can’t think of anything better with young children
Do you expect them to stay in all day ?
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
I think most can see what utter nonsense it is to try to regulate people hiking in the fresh air whilst we are being repeatedly assured that it's ' safe ' for children to return to schools
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Doesn’t make sense. We are told to fling open our windows when it is freezing outside yet told to stay indoors. So we will end up in hospital with hyperthermia.
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
Don’t get what ?
You are allowed to travel a reasonable distance to exercise
Can’t think of anything better with young children
Do you expect them to stay in all day ?
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You are but you are supposed to stay in your tier 4 area:
  • outdoor recreation or exercise. This should be done locally wherever possible, but you can travel a short distance within your Tier 4 area to do so if necessary (for example, to access an open space)
 
Wizaard said:
And as you say, pack out supermarkets with no limit on people going in.
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Limits round here. We have a green and red light system at the local supermarket. Big Tesco has in and out system, I think. It looked that way on NYE when doing a C&C.

If I was Nostro, I'd say travel out of area, 5 miles or so will be banned in the next fortnight as the faster spreader starts to get a grip up here.
 
GJJW said:
Yes. Agree, but it's the guidelines and rules that are in place. Whether we like it or not the powers that be deem it safer to go to Asda with another couple of hundred people, rather than hiking or climbing in wide open spaces.
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Well if the rules are plainly wrong you ignore them, well I do.

'Visitors have travelled from Greater Manchester'

So they walked up from Horwich, a mile away, the ** lower reservoir ends at Horwich, in Greater Manchester. The police need to get a ** grip, officious twats trying to shame the public.
 
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Eternaloptimist said:
For those who know the area Tockholes has been inundated with walkers. I believe the police visited the place today but not heard what happened.
Yesterday I delivered some furniture to my daughters new house in Bamber Bridge (stayed within our own bubble) and on the way back Belmont was absolutely full of vehicles with everyone taking their kids sledging.
People just do not get it OR they don’t give a monkeys. I’ll go for the latter.
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Same in Layton newsagents this morning. I was walking past the crisps display and it was packed full of walkers.

Its a (golden) wonder more people havent been affected-I know I am
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Well if the rules are plainly wrong you ignore them, well I do.

'Visitors have travelled from Greater Manchester'

So they walked up from Horwich, a mile away, the ** lower reservoir ends at Horwich, in Greater Manchester. The police need to get a ** grip, officious twats trying to shame the public.
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Well ignoring rules or guidelines because you dont agree with them is one way of going I guess. Could lead to murky waters mind.
 
GJJW said:
Well ignoring rules or guidelines because you dont agree with them is one way of going I guess. Could lead to murky waters mind.
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There's ignoring rules and ignoring rules. However, this is Britain where 90% of people are pig shit thick and can't do ignoring rules safely. You see it every day.
 
fcblackpool said:
There's ignoring rules and ignoring rules. However, this is Britain where 90% of people are pig shit thick and can't do ignoring rules safely. You see it every day.
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Give someone an inch and they'll take a mile you mean?
 
GJJW said:
Give someone an inch and they'll take a mile you mean?
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Yup especially since we're out of Europe. I said to the missus when walking in the Lake District you can no longer 'metres' at the summit. Tee hee.
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
The thing is the rules gets mixed with guidance - and that gets to be treated as the rules

Personally I can't take anyone seriously when they try to convince we schools are safe right now
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Yes, my little un goes back tomorrow. Cant say I'm looking forward to that! I reckon they'll be shut by the end of the week anyhow.
 
In answer to the OP.. Yes Rivington is in fact a beautiful place... A reservoir that local boating/scouting etc clubs use..... Go Ape have a venue there.... Bottom and top barns for meals etc...faux Castle ruins and Terraced gardens etc built by Lord Leverhulme ( the soap magnet) Unilever.
Currently having £30 million long term upgrade plan on the gardens and Terraces/ponds etc
Miles of walks Inc up to the pike...
I live 10 mins away and are up there all the time.
Now if you long distance feckers can leave us alone to enjoy it would be much appreciated.... Thanks 😁😁😁😁😁
 
basilrobbie said:
It's certainly nonsensical to expect some of the people of this country to consider the safety of others, that's for sure.
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Out of something like 700 studies internationally only one has identified evidence of possible transmission in an outdoor setting.
 
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TwelveAngryMen said:
I think Robbie has been reading the Daily Mail again 😆
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Thing is, it's becoming ridiculous... People are essentially being called out and shamed for something that is statistically safer that what the government is advising them to do (i.e. stay indoors)... Bearing in mind the number of parties and other stuff that have happened over Christmas, people ought to be spending as much time possible outside.
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
The thing is the rules gets mixed with guidance - and that gets to be treated as the rules

Personally I can't take anyone seriously when they try to convince we schools are safe right now
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Schools can’t be safe. The virus is spreading amongst the kids faster than ever with this new strain, and although the kids are still mainly asymptomatic the danger to teachers and family when the kids return home must be seriously high.
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
The thing is the rules gets mixed with guidance - and that gets to be treated as the rules

Personally I can't take anyone seriously when they try to convince we schools are safe right now
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The thing with the schools is they have various measures in place all day, such as distancing and masks, then the final bell goes and there are no extra buses on!
What is the point of all the other stuff if the kids are all crammed on to buses to get home.
 
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