Rosenior turned us down

Strahan92 said:
If I’m reading the article right. We’ve interviewed MA and LR twice. We’ve just confirmed we haven’t offered LR the job but Matt says an appointment is imminent. Suggests only one thing….
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Scrafton also said on a previous tweet there could be others interviewed but them 2 have definitely been interviewed
 
BFC95 said:
So tonight the club has denied offering the job to Rosenior and the gazette says an announcement imminent. Sounds like it won't be Rosenior then or else why deny you've offered it him? Sounds like we might know tomorrow...
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Exactly how I'm reading it. Imminent is pretty much saying something Is in place and ready to be announced. If LR is negotiating still or whatever he is doing then the annoucement surely can't be 'imminent'.
It's going to be Appleton isn't it. 😭
 
If there has been a serious leak of commercial confidentiality, then the deal may be off. If this is just speculation from the media, then we just need to be patient and let it happen. If Rosenior, any of his team or anyone associated with the Club, have leaked information the deal may be terminal. We'll soon find out.
 
JJpool said:
Well it's what we have, it's been improved massively since the owners came in.

Lots more portacabins added I believe and the pitches are acceptable.

What else can we do, the new TG is about to happen.
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The TG will realistically be 12/18 months away yet.
 
This managers appointment has seemed a bit of a mess.

I dont know if thats just press rumours painting it that way, as if we don't leak info...

But doesn't means others don't leak info.

We're in the dark, but even if not true some of the things that come out often don't make us look good, like no money when it's not true.

Are the club too secretive? Is this just standard rumour stuff? Are the club too rigid to get some deals done or is sticking to the budget no matter what better?

Is any of this even true?

F**k knows.

Just want a decent manager.
 
Middxile said:
Somebody ought to tell him that Transfer Budgets are the reason that Derby are where they are. Take it or leave it !
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Maybe he's used to what they do which will be a world away and why they're in trouble.

If so then a bad choice to get him, we want someone used to working on a tighter budget.
 
The rumour that LR has turned us down for now doesn't sit right with me. Mansford said the recruitment process would take time. Even if you have one stand out candidate from early interviews the Club still has a duty to interview all credible applicants. This takes time. The process now appears to be in the closing stages..or finished. I can imagine that training ground and player budget would have been touched upon in interview 1. If LR was so unhappy why come back for interview 2? No..I think the club are doing things right..just as they said they would. They should know who they want now and I expect an announcement tomorrow b4 the weekend. I would still put my money on LR but wouldn't surprise me if someone unexpected..not necessarily Appleton..got the job.
 
tommytwojags said:
It's done nothing for me and many others. Stepping straight into the boss's role in the Championship is almost unheard of for someone with so little management experience. If he's got any ambition he should be paying us for the opportunity.
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Right ok, so he should be begging us?

Or should he be setting his stall out for what he wants footballing wise realistically (which I’m sure he will be) after spending a season at Derby.
 
cresser said:
The rumour that LR has turned us down for now doesn't sit right with me. Mansford said the recruitment process would take time. Even if you have one stand out candidate from early interviews the Club still has a duty to interview all credible applicants. This takes time. The process now appears to be in the closing stages..or finished. I can imagine that training ground and player budget would have been touched upon in interview 1. If LR was so unhappy why come back for interview 2? No..I think the club are doing things right..just as they said they would. They should know who they want now and I expect an announcement tomorrow b4 the weekend. I would still put my money on LR but wouldn't surprise me if someone unexpected..not necessarily Appleton..got the job.
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Spot on
 
Adams Kebab said:
Right ok, so he should be begging us?

Or should he be setting his stall out for what he wants footballing wise realistically (which I’m sure he will be) after spending a season at Derby.
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What other Championship club would be offering the top job to someone who has only been assistant coach with Brighton's under-23 and assistant manager with Derby? Not a cv for making demands.
 
Adams Kebab said:
Right ok, so he should be begging us?

Or should he be setting his stall out for what he wants footballing wise realistically (which I’m sure he will be) after spending a season at Derby.
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Mansford has said our budget will have gone up, we'll be looking to sell bowler probably and reinvest.

It won't be a lot for championship standards but we'll be spending all we have within our means.

If hes not happy and pushing for more I can't se the club budging from their strategy.

If true doesn't give me a good image of him as some young managers would be excited to manage first time in the championship even with a lower end budget.
 
If LR isn't trying to make it happen then he clearly isn't that bothered about coming. Tell him to go away.
If the only alternative is Appleton then I'm going away. And I think a lot of others will too.
 
tommytwojags said:
What other Championship club would be offering the top job to someone who has only been assistant coach with Brighton's under-23 and assistant manager with Derby? Not a cv for making demands.
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I can see it both ways. He wants the best chance of making it work and I don’t think his demands would be unrealistic?

I would want someone to want more, not just be grateful for getting a job, we’re trying to kick on aren’t we? Or do we just want someone who’s happy to accept basics as he’s no experience.

That said, I’ve no idea what his demands are?
 
JJpool said:
Mansford has said our budget will have gone up, we'll be looking to sell bowler probably and reinvest.

It won't be a lot for championship standards but we'll be spending all we have within our means.

If hes not happy and pushing for more I can't se the club budging from their strategy.

If true doesn't give me a good image of him as some young managers would be excited to manage first time in the championship even with a lower end budget.
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Well on this we need to first assume BM is telling the truth, then we also need to think that yes he should be buzzing for his first gig but as it’s his first he probably wants it right to make it successful, before he probably fucks us off to be Brighton Manager in two years…

If I was going into a new job, I would want assurances to have the best chance, if I was in a position where I thought I could… he obviously thinks he is & I like that.
 
Adams Kebab said:
Well on this we need to first assume BM is telling the truth, then we also need to think that yes he should be buzzing for his first gig but as it’s his first he probably wants it right to make it successful, before he probably fucks us off to be Brighton Manager in two years…

If I was going into a new job, I would want assurances to have the best chance, if I was in a position where I thought I could… he obviously thinks he is & I like that.
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When Potter becomes England manager
 
Adams Kebab said:
Well on this we need to first assume BM is telling the truth, then we also need to think that yes he should be buzzing for his first gig but as it’s his first he probably wants it right to make it successful, before he probably fucks us off to be Brighton Manager in two years…
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But if our budget is all of our revenue then we won't go over it if that's our strategy, we aren't going to budge if we can't budge.

We have no idea what it is or isn't.

He would have been given the top budget we can afford, most managers would be willing to do the best they can with the resources available. If he wants more than we can give then suggests he's not confident with that budget or his own ability to do well under it.

Maybe its too low, maybe not, may all be bollox.
 
JJpool said:
But if our budget is all of our revenue then we won't go over it if that's our strategy, we aren't going to budge if we can't budge.

We have no idea what it is or isn't.

He would have been given the top budget we can afford, most managers would be willing to do the best they can with the resources available. If he wants more than we can give then suggests he's not confident with that budget or his own ability to do well under it.

Maybe its too low, maybe not, may all be bollox.
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Squires Gate might be an issue too.

I know we’re building a new one but that’s years off. It’s going to be a culture shock for many still that place.
 
I’ve been going through what the journo’s are saying and it doesn’t say Rosenoir won’t be our next manager, it says he hasn’t accepted the offer yet as he s negotiating for a better squad budget and has issues with the training ground. If that’s the case then the board could budge on the budget but the training ground is what it is and we are getting a new all singing all dancing one in the next 3 years.

If it’s true then I can’t see how the club can offer more so best he stay with his bezzie Shrek and we have escaped another billy big bollocks.

IfAppleton gets the job then I will be fully behind him. He is still young, he is experienced and he sussed the Stains out in double quick time and did what any decent manager would do and fucked them off. He is a highly thought of coach and I think he could easily do well at the right club.

The fact he s a ringer for West Paddock Casual only with muscles is irrelevant, the fact he doesn’t smile a lot is the weakest excuse for not wanting a manager I’ve ever heard.

Let’s wait and see who it is. I’ve gone off LR now and only want him to get the job so LaLa wins her bet. A bit of experience is something we need and it’s not one of the round the block experienced managers either, which we don’t need.

Be good to get settled so we can build the side ready for a difficult but exciting season.
 
hertfordseasider said:
I’ve been going through what I he journo’s are saying and it doesn’t say Rosenoir won’t be our next manager, it says he hasn’t accepted the offer yet as he s negotiating for a better squad budget and has issues with the training ground. If that’s the case then the board could budge on the budget but the training ground is what it is and we are getting a new all singing all dancing one in the next 3 years.

If it’s true then I can’t see how the club can offer more so best he stay with his bezzie Shrek and we have escaped another billy big bollocks.

IfAppleton gets the job then I will be fully behind him. He is still young, he is experienced and he sussed the Stains out in double quick time and did what any decent manager would do and fucked them off. He is a highly thought of coach and I think he could easily do well at the right club.

The fact he s a ringer for West Paddock Casual only with muscles is irrelevant, the fact he doesn’t smile a lot is the weakest excuse for not wanting a manager I’ve ever heard.

Let’s wait and see who it is. I’ve gone off LR now and only want him to get the job so LaLa wins her bet. A bit of experience is something we need and it’s not one of the round the block experienced managers either, which we don’t need.

Be good to get settled so we can build the side ready for a difficult but exciting season.
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Don’t get me wrong I want to win my bet 😏 it’s the difference between a nice weekend cavorting and a really nice weekend cavorting 🥳
But at the end of the day, bet aside, I would be disappointed with Appleton.

Really disappointed.

I’d go with it with hope, and hope to be proved wrong, because positivity is the name of the game always, but the lack of vision would concern me.
That said, we still don’t have a clue, so I want, or am trying, to reserve judgment on the appointment until we know who has actually been appointed.
 
Fancies himself too much Rosenior. Done naff all as a manager and given the chance to manage a famous club who finished 36th in the whole country last season and he starts making demands. The cheeky sod, send him packing Simon. He can enjoy Accy and the Cods with Rooney next season. Give it Mowbray, personally think if backed we’d be successful with him, got no backing with t’rovers and they were always competitive. He also lives in the real world unlike pampered Rosenior
 
Adams Kebab said:
Squires Gate might be an issue too.

I know we’re building a new one but that’s years off. It’s going to be a culture shock for many still that place.
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It's not great but there's more decent portacabins, didn't we get them from Liverpool?

The pitches have been improved and are better than ever there.

I guess its a step down from most places but it is what it is.
 
Lala said:
Don’t get me wrong I want to win my bet 😏 it’s the difference between a nice weekend cavorting and a really nice weekend cavorting 🥳
But at the end of the day, bet aside, I would be disappointed with Appleton.

Really disappointed.

I’d go with it with hope, and hope to be proved wrong, because positivity is the name of the game always, but the lack of vision would concern me.
That said, we still don’t have a clue, so I want, or am trying, to reserve judgment on the appointment until we know who has actually been appointed.
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To be honest LaLa, I was just trying to be positive, in all honesty I think it would be a disastrous appointment and one that could get rid of all the good will that’s been built up. I’m not really convinced by LR either so I’d prefer the board to not sign a manager because they have to. If Appleton gets it then I think he is doomed from the off. The club must know the supporters don’t want him and will be on his back from the first defeat. Even poor results in friendlies will mean he is booed and ridiculed.

We should have gone all out to get Evo from Bolton but they don’t seem interested in him. I’m yet to be convinced by any of Sadlers managerial appointments, Grayson was a disaster, Critch fucked off without a word and although he did a fantastic job it was pretty uninspiring to watch most of the time and now the choices are so limited we could be in real trouble.
 
hertfordseasider said:
To be honest LaLa, I was just trying to be positive, in all honesty I think it would be a disastrous appointment and one that could get rid of all the good will that’s been built up. I’m not really convinced by LR either so I’d prefer the board to not sign a manager because they have to. If Appleton gets it then I think he is doomed from the off. The club must know the supporters don’t want him and will be on his back from the first defeat. Even poor results in friendlies will mean he is booed and ridiculed.

We should have gone all out to get Evo from Bolton but they don’t seem interested in him. I’m yet to be convinced by any of Sadlers managerial appointments, Grayson was a disaster, Critch fucked off without a word and although he did a fantastic job it was pretty uninspiring to watch most of the time and now the choices are so limited we could be in real trouble.
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Yep, a lot of sense in a lot of that 👌
 
voyeur said:
That's a hell of a sharp swivel. 🤣

Are you in two minds, Herts?!
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I know, I feel sorry for Appleton if he knew the feeling from the supporters that would be awful. I am worried that if he gets appointed he is going to have a really tough time with he supporters. If he does get the job I hope he does really well and shoves it back at them and wins them round, but this isn’t Ted Lasso.

I have to say the real parasite in this is the badge thumping faker that had us all over. I hope Villa are bottom of the league by November and he and Gerrard are out on their arses.
 
**** me ! I follow two teams and both bulletin boards are in turmoil - Pool no manager and no pre-season - Wolves - no money and seemingly no plan —- argh !
 
Continuity Critchley is not Michael Appleton….the players will be in for massive culture shock changes. You’d think the club would have learned after the costly Grayson farce that rehiring managers can do more damage than good.
 
hertfordseasider said:
I know, I feel sorry for Appleton if he knew the feeling from the supporters that would be awful. I am worried that if he gets appointed he is going to have a really tough time with he supporters. If he does get the job I hope he does really well and shoves it back at them and wins them round, but this isn’t Ted Lasso.

I have to say the real parasite in this is the badge thumping faker that had us all over. I hope Villa are bottom of the league by November and he and Gerrard are out on their arses.
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Appleton would be a bad choice in my opinion. I think fans need to feel excited. Or at least not despondent. Neutral at worst! He would get no grace, he'd need to get good results or the fans would be on him.

Critch parasite? Come on, he just got offered a job and really wanted it. He didn't plan for it. It's tough on the people he's left behind, especially the players really. But it's how the game works, happens all the time. We're all adults, surely?
 
Lala said:
Don’t get me wrong I want to win my bet 😏 it’s the difference between a nice weekend cavorting and a really nice weekend cavorting 🥳
But at the end of the day, bet aside, I would be disappointed with Appleton.

Really disappointed.

I’d go with it with hope, and hope to be proved wrong, because positivity is the name of the game always, but the lack of vision would concern me.
That said, we still don’t have a clue, so I want, or am trying, to reserve judgment on the appointment until we know who has actually been appointed.
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Could be a weekend in a tent at this rate. Still hope you win.
 
Just read most of the above or at least as much of it as I could stomach.

What a lot of hot air from many who are clearly suffering from acute cases of severely twisted knickers.

Lets just calm down boys and girls (children) and just wait till an appointment is made and take it from there as all the opinions on here have absolutely no bearing on the final decision and most are from a position of almost complete ignorance of what any of the candidates are really like and exactly what has been discussed with each of them.
 
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BestTrip said:
If this is true then something smells off. Is there more to Critchleys departure than just having his head turned. Budget etc - The timing would certainly fit. Then Rosenior also having reservations over budget and squad strength. As for training ground we can’t be doing any more than we are and atheist whoever is coming in knows SQ is just temporary. I’m sure if they need better facilities during the winter the club has been accommodating in the past by renting out local training pitches
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Fact is our budget will possibly be the lowest in the division next season, though I'd hope we could outdo Rotherham. The fact this bloke from Derby is reportedly hesitant due to this shouldn't be a shock and doesn't digress from anything the board has previously said.

Critchley leaving has really put us in the shit, but low budget or not, we still have some quality players. Though it would be a dull as dishwater appointment I think even Michael Appleton could keep us up with a few shrewd loan signings/astute investment of the 1-2 million quid we likely are willing to spend.
 
It just won’t work with Appleton in my view, it’s as simple as that. Like Herts, I’d give him my 100% unrelenting support if he’s the one they choose, but he hasn’t got the tools for the job in my opinion.

For all his early promise and the experience he’s gained, there’s just something missing.

I’m also a bit ruffled by the idea that Rosenior might be making demands, especially about the training ground… initial reaction was Fuck Off then you big Shandy Drinker, but it’s all negotiations, agents etc… and probably best that supporters don’t know half of it really.
 
Maybe instead of a new manager we need to be looking for a new owner if it is true that we have no money to spend.

Thanks for what you have done Sadler but we need to move forward
 
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