Scott Benton

Wizaard said:
Both.
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Not true though is it?

AFAIA he didn't actually take anything did he and backed out before it was known they were journalists.

Isn't that why he had given wrong advice, broken rules but not actually committed any offence...

I get you don't like him but let's at least call it as it was and not make things up.
 
I think what's most surprising is how so many people in power become Billy Big Bollocks about what they think they can do.

There's only a few who have any real influence and they aren't so stupid as to get caught out in this way.

Excluding the morality/criminality you deserve to lose your job for being an idiot.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
Are Tory MPs capable of being good constituency MPs - yes.
Have there been any - loads
Has Scott Benton been one of them - no.
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A lot of people who interacted with him seem to disagree, given the work in the community, presence and pushing for Blackpool he did in Parliament.

Many people are comparing to the past, which doesn't reflect well on Mr Marsden and Labour.

Too many on here are obsessed and entrenched to look at anything fairly.

Whether people like him or not he's set a new bar for interaction in the community that must be followed or bettered, especially by a local guy.

If not then it won't look good.
 
JJpool said:
Not true though is it?

AFAIA he didn't actually take anything did he and backed out before it was known they were journalists.

Isn't that why he had given wrong advice, broken rules but not actually committed any offence...

I get you don't like him but let's at least call it as it was and not make things up.
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Commons report 'He is corrupt and available for sale'. He was found to have taken incentives from gambling companies. Even in his declared interests, he'd taken £20,000 for 'consultancy'.

www.bbc.co.uk

Potential by-election as ex-Tory MP Scott Benton faces Commons suspension

Scott Benton committed a "very serious breach" of parliamentary rules, standards watchdog finds.
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JJpool said:
A lot of people who interacted with him seem to disagree, given the work in the community, presence and pushing for Blackpool he did in Parliament.

Many people are comparing to the past, which doesn't reflect well on Mr Marsden and Labour.

Too many on here are obsessed and entrenched to look at anything fairly.

Whether people like him or not he's set a new bar for interaction in the community that must be followed or bettered, especially by a local guy.

If not then it won't look good.
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The films show clearly that he was available to be bought by the gambling industry and he would provide confidential parliamentary information to them if they wanted it in return for money. He also boasts on film of receiving perks before from the gambling industry. He was caught red handed and therefore he is unsuitable for parliamentary office. He has eventually realised this and resigned, in short, he was corrupt.
 
JJpool said:
A lot of people who interacted with him seem to disagree, given the work in the community, presence and pushing for Blackpool he did in Parliament.

Many people are comparing to the past, which doesn't reflect well on Mr Marsden and Labour.

Too many on here are obsessed and entrenched to look at anything fairly.

Whether people like him or not he's set a new bar for interaction in the community that must be followed or bettered, especially by a local guy.

If not then it won't look good.
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He's proven to be corrupt, no amount of shaking hands really absolves that.
 
Wizaard said:
Commons report 'He is corrupt and available for sale'. He was found to have taken incentives from gambling companies. Even in his declared interests, he'd taken £20,000 for 'consultancy'.

www.bbc.co.uk

Potential by-election as ex-Tory MP Scott Benton faces Commons suspension

Scott Benton committed a "very serious breach" of parliamentary rules, standards watchdog finds.
www.bbc.co.uk
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The actual quote...

"A Commons Standards Committee report said he had given the message "he was corrupt and 'for sale"

I'm not defending what he did, he ruind it for himself, only pointing out he didn't actually do what you said and also many people think he a did good work in the community. Clearly that upsets people, which is hilarious.
 
ElBurroSinNombre said:
The films show clearly that he was available to be bought by the gambling industry and he would provide confidential parliamentary information to them if they wanted it in return for money. He also boasts on film of receiving perks before from the gambling industry. He was caught red handed and therefore he is unsuitable for parliamentary office. He has eventually realised this and resigned, in short, he was corrupt.
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Yep he was caught and was clearly wrong to be saying he did, but he didn't actually go ahead with anything.

It wouldn't surprise me if many mps etc are dodgy in some way.

I've only said what many ate saying, which is that he did a lot in the community.

Which is a concern if the 'corrupt' MP is the best Blackpool South has had for ages...
 
JJpool said:
The actual quote...

"A Commons Standards Committee report said he had given the message "he was corrupt and 'for sale"

I'm not defending what he did, he ruind it for himself, only pointing out he didn't actually do what you said and also many people think he a did good work in the community. Clearly that upsets people, which is hilarious.
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You are splitting hairs, the report was damning.
It doesn't upset people that he did work in the community - how on earth have you get that idea?
What upsets people is that he was corrupt.
The parliamentary report demonstrates that Scott Benton is an unsuitable person to be an MP.
He seems to have accepted that himself as he has resigned and is not standing for reelection.
good riddance.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
He's proven to be corrupt, no amount of shaking hands really absolves that.
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No but is makes the last guy look utter shite doesn't it when Mr Benton has massively shown him and Labour up with his work ethic.

😂

I believe @Jaffa_The_Hut has had interactions with him and has said before people were sick of seeing him out and about.
 
ElBurroSinNombre said:
You are splitting hairs, the report was damning.
It doesn't upset people that he did work in the community - how on earth have you get that idea?
What upsets people is that he was corrupt.
The parliamentary report demonstrates that Scott Benton is an unsuitable person to be an MP.
He seems to have accepted that himself as he has resigned and is not standing for reelection.
good riddance.
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Of course it does, people saying he's done nowt and was shite. He may be a fool and tried to have a side earner and brought his own downfall, but he clearly put a lot of effort in some people's eyes and the stats seem to back that up.

But some of the entrenched Labour lot will never admit it.

All I've said is the next guy better follow with at least the same level of presence now out in the community etc, otherwise its not going to look good. It can't go back to an invisible Marsden type.
 
JJpool said:
Of course it does, people saying he's done nowt and was shite. He may be a fool and tried to have a side earner and brought his own downfall, but he clearly put a lot of effort in some people's eyes and the stats seem to back that up.

But some of the entrenched Labour lot will never admit it.

All I've said is the next guy better follow with at least the same level of presence now out in the community etc, otherwise its not going to look good. It can't go back to an invisible Marsden type.
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'side earner' - it's called corruption.
He was elected to represent his constituents.
Instead he seemingly opted to represent the gambling industry for money and gifts. This is clearly against the interests of many of his constituents. I'm not really sure why you are trying to defend him. the Conservative party kicked him out as soon as this came to light. You cannot have MPs who will take money from third parties to influence their actions. Don't you understand that this is wrong, no amount of greasing up constituents can make up for it. It's wrong.
 
JJpool said:
A lot of people who interacted with him seem to disagree, given the work in the community, presence and pushing for Blackpool he did in Parliament.

Many people are comparing to the past, which doesn't reflect well on Mr Marsden and Labour.

Too many on here are obsessed and entrenched to look at anything fairly.

Whether people like him or not he's set a new bar for interaction in the community that must be followed or bettered, especially by a local guy.

If not then it won't look good.
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A good constituency MP does not actively lobby for the gambling industry in and out of Parliament when too many of his constituents suffer at that industry's hands.
 
JJpool said:
No but is makes the last guy look utter shite doesn't it when Mr Benton has massively shown him and Labour up with his work ethic.

😂

I believe @Jaffa_The_Hut has had interactions with him and has said before people were sick of seeing him out and about.
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Nowt to do with Labour or Tories, anyone with a modicum of awareness could see through old Scotty immediately. Marsden had been here too long and was useless, he didn't actively take cash from gambling companies in one of the most deprived areas of England though.

Benton was just thick, campaigning against 5g masts while taking backhanders from 5g companies.
 
ElBurroSinNombre said:
'side earner' - it's called corruption.
He was elected to represent his constituents.
Instead he seemingly opted to represent the gambling industry for money and gifts. This is clearly against the interests of many of his constituents. I'm not really sure why you are trying to defend him. the Conservative party kicked him out as soon as this came to light. You cannot have MPs who will take money from third parties to influence their actions. Don't you understand that this is wrong, no amount of greasing up constituents can make up for it. It's wrong.
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If you read what I've put I've said it was wrong, but that he didn't actually take anything as Wiz claimed.

I'm only pointing out the other side, which you wont hear, in what he did do and many people are saying he was very active in the community.

That now has to be followed or bettered.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Nowt to do with Labour or Tories, anyone with a modicum of awareness could see through old Scotty immediately. Marsden had been here too long and was useless, he didn't actively take cash from gambling companies in one of the most deprived areas of England though.

Benton was just thick, campaigning against 5g masts while taking backhanders from 5g companies.
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Maybe but it doesn't reflect well on Marsden when people are saying they didn't even know they had an MP until Mr Benton came along.

Again maybe a low bar but only stating what people are saying.
 
ElBurroSinNombre said:
He could have saved the cost of the recall petition if he had resigned a couple of weeks ago. No doubt he was told how it was going and decided that there was no hope for him to avoid a bi-election. If he had an integrity he would have resigned as soon as he was exposed as taking gifts from the gambling industry in exchange for influence. But if you are going to stand and fight your corner, stand and fight your corner!
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Was it not something to do with how much loss of earning pay it was linked to?
 
JJpool said:
Maybe but it doesn't reflect well on Marsden when people are saying they didn't even know they had an MP until Mr Benton came along.

Again maybe a low bar but only stating what people are saying.
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But Marsden has nothing to do with it, it's just deflection.

Your boy's a wrong 'un.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
But Marsden has nothing to do with it, it's just deflection.

Your boy's a wrong 'un.
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Deflection? It's only right people compare to their last MP, and many didn't see the last guy at all. People clearly appreciated someone active in the community and rasing issues in Parliament, tye least you expect maybe, but didn't seem to happen before. His other behaviour meant he did himself in.

It's not hard to grasp.

He's not my boy, I couldn't really give a toss about him, am only stating what many people have stated online.
 
JJpool said:
Deflection? It's only right people compare to their last MP, and many didn't see the last guy at all. People clearly appreciated someone active in the community and rasing issues in Parliament, tye least you expect maybe, but didn't seem to happen before. His other behaviour meant he did himself in.

It's not hard to grasp.

He's not my boy, I couldn't really give a toss about him, am only stating what many people have stated online.
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Oh but you obviously do give very much of a toss for him.
 
JJpool said:
Deflection? It's only right people compare to their last MP, and many didn't see the last guy at all. People clearly appreciated someone active in the community and rasing issues in Parliament, tye least you expect maybe, but didn't seem to happen before. His other behaviour meant he did himself in.

It's not hard to grasp.

He's not my boy, I couldn't really give a toss about him, am only stating what many people have stated online.
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Why would they compare to the last MP?

Are people happy with Critchley because he's not Mick McCarthy?
 
JJpool said:
If you read what I've put I've said it was wrong, but that he didn't actually take anything as Wiz claimed.

I'm only pointing out the other side, which you wont hear, in what he did do and many people are saying he was very active in the community.

That now has to be followed or bettered.
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He did take. He was a regular at a number of hospitality events as a guest of the gambling industry, he raised questions on their behalf for a 'consideration', and did the same for 5G mast companies while being the face of opposition to them in Blackpool. Add hypocrisy to his list.

This is how far we've sunk when such blatant corruption is defended because he shook plenty of hands and kissed babies in the constituency.
 
JJpool said:
Deflection? It's only right people compare to their last MP, and many didn't see the last guy at all. People clearly appreciated someone active in the community and rasing issues in Parliament, tye least you expect maybe, but didn't seem to happen before. His other behaviour meant he did himself in.

It's not hard to grasp.

He's not my boy, I couldn't really give a toss about him, am only stating what many people have stated online.
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'People online' = Tufton St bots
 
Wizaard said:
He did take. He was a regular at a number of hospitality events as a guest of the gambling industry, he raised questions on their behalf for a 'consideration', and did the same for 5G mast companies while being the face of opposition to them in Blackpool. Add hypocrisy to his list.

This is how far we've sunk when such blatant corruption is defended because he shook plenty of hands and kissed babies in the constituency.
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I'm on about you're claim from the sting.

Oh no kissing babies is wrong, should be frowned upon.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Does it? Again, how many people are comparing Critchley with McCarthy?
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A lot compare with the past Critchley and were on about in politics, of course people compare to what went before.

If you don't notice an MP then see the next one a lot, it stands out.

When in reality it's just probably what an MP should be doing.
 
JJpool said:
A lot compare with the past Critchley and were on about in politics, of course people compare to what went before.

If you don't notice an MP then see the next one a lot, it stands out.

When in reality it's just probably what an MP should be doing.
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No one cares about the last MP, literally no one. Especially when the current one is corrupt.
 
JJpool said:
Deflection? It's only right people compare to their last MP, and many didn't see the last guy at all. People clearly appreciated someone active in the community and rasing issues in Parliament, tye least you expect maybe, but didn't seem to happen before. His other behaviour meant he did himself in.

It's not hard to grasp.

He's not my boy, I couldn't really give a toss about him, am only stating what many people have stated online.
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Sorry JJ your rationale is nose-diving here. The man stands or falls on his own performance. Whatever your allegiance, just drop this one.
 
JJpool said:
Why would you compare to what went before, literally happens in every aspect of life. 🙄
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Most people barely know who their MP is, let alone know whether they are good or not.

You are clutching at straws desperate to defend Bent-one for some weird reason. He used his status as a gun for hire. He got caught and now he's gone. End of.

No amount of your wailing about how good he was (in your opinion) is going to bring the lowlife back.

And for the record when I drive through South shore there is very little on view to show me that he did a good job.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
I think this is a great opportunity for the Blackpool electorate to vote for a local candidate. Chris Webb is Blackpool through and through and sees the position of MP as a chance to speak up for the town, right from the heart. Forget being a Tory, Labour, Lib Dem voter or whatever. Vote for Chris Webb, the Blackpool candidate.
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At least he doesnt live in Brighton 😉
 
1966_and_all_that said:
Sorry JJ your rationale is nose-diving here. The man stands or falls on his own performance. Whatever your allegiance, just drop this one.
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I'm one of the only ones who doesn't actually have an allegiance on this matter it seems.

I've already said it's his own fault and he did wrong even if he didn't go through with anything.

But only pointed out that many online were sad to see him go, saying he did a lot in their opinion.

Then you get a load of replies on here an have to make the point over an over, that people just won't accept.

Here's an example btw.

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JJpool said:
I'm one of the only ones who doesn't actually have an allegiance on this matter it seems.

I've already said it's his own fault and he did wrong even if he didn't go through with anything.

But only pointed out that many online were sad to see him go, saying he did a lot in their opinion.

Then you get a load of replies on here an have to make the point over an over, that people just won't accept.

Here's an example btw.

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You keep saying he didn't go through with anything. He did. He made money and gained benefits in the form of hospitality and gifts.

This is nothing to do with him being a Tory, and everything to do with him being corrupt.
 
Macseasider said:
Most people barely know who their MP is, let alone know whether they are good or not.

You are clutching at straws desperate to defend Bent-one for some weird reason. He used his status as a gun for hire. He got caught and now he's gone. End of.

No amount of your wailing about how good he was (in your opinion) is going to bring the lowlife back.

And for the record when I drive through South shore there is very little on view to show me that he did a good job.
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Are you even reading the posts properly, the points I've made? I've clearly said it's many peoples opinions.

My opinion was he did some good but clearly let himself down and caused his own downfall, which is a shame as he had done some good community work and fought hard for cash for deprived areas, which will no doubt have helped secure some of it, but it's entirely his fault.

It it what it is, all I've said is that whoever follows now has to match or better that community presence and effort, not go back to the invisible man MP approach seen before.
 
JJpool said:
Are you even reading the posts properly, the points I've made? I've clearly said it's many peoples opinions.

My opinion was he did some good but clearly let himself down and caused his own downfall, which is a shame as he had done some good community work and fought hard for cash for deprived areas, which will no doubt have helped secure some of it, but it's entirely his fault.

It it what it is, all I've said is that whoever follows now has to match or better that community presence and effort, not go back to the invisible man MP approach seen before.
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He’s gone. Man up, stop bleating and get over it. England are on Channel 4, not the best game to be honest, but better than getting all worked up about a corrupt MP resigning.
 
Captain Sensible said:
He’s gone. Man up, stop bleating and get over it. England are on Channel 4, not the best game to be honest, but better than getting all worked up about a corrupt MP resigning.
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You man up and accept both things can be true, in that he completely fucked up but also did a lot in the community.

If you look at the first post I posted it was only to say many people didn't think he was incompetent at his job.
 
JJpool said:
I'm one of the only ones who doesn't actually have an allegiance on this matter it seems.

I've already said it's his own fault and he did wrong even if he didn't go through with anything.

But only pointed out that many online were sad to see him go, saying he did a lot in their opinion.

Then you get a load of replies on here an have to make the point over an over, that people just won't accept.

Here's an example btw.

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"Thank you for the visits to our church"

Ffs could it be more obvious, clearly a planted comment.
 
Wizaard said:
You keep saying he didn't go through with anything. He did. He made money and gained benefits in the form of hospitality and gifts.

This is nothing to do with him being a Tory, and everything to do with him being corrupt.
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I'm on about the sting, as stated before.

Sorry I forgot you liked him from day 1.
 
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