So if we had beaten Cardiff……

[Martonmosser]

…… we would still be a Championship team tonight. Why the fcuk did we appoint the dinosaur

 

[TwelveAngryMen]

Utter madness from the start

 

[poolseasider]

Not sure football really works like that.
Game on game and all that.

 

[Levi501]

Probably naively thought MM’s experience would keep us up when the man who might’ve done was under our nose.

 

[Simonized]

Utter madness from the start

One of life's great mysteries for sure.

 

[Martonmosser]

Not sure football really works like that.
Game on game and all that.

End of the day, that’s how it ended

 

[Chesterbfc]

Maxwell in goal will always be the biggest mystery to me. Cost us at least 4 games

 

[Dougall]

I would've sacked McCarthy after PNE - would've given us the Cardiff, Luton, West Brom, Birmingham and Millwall games to get what we needed and I genuinely think under Dobbie we would have done.

 

[Lord Gooski]

Inexperienced leadership not recognising critical timings

 

[tangerine_neil]

Knew at the time it was pivotal, that’s what is particularly annoying. Mad Mick should have been back on the golf course by then. It was kind of obvious.

 

[PR3BFC]

Maxwell in goal will always be the biggest mystery to me. Cost us at least 4 games

What about the shambolic “defending” in front of him and some vital saves he made in other games?

He’s not perfect but to single him out is pathetic and boring now.

 

[Leyland bfc]

…… we would still be a Championship team tonight. Why the fcuk did we appoint the dinosaur

Ur forgetting Appleton he started the shit show,but yea the board fucked up big time

 

[Bpooltown54]

What about the shambolic “defending” in front of him and some vital saves he made in other games?

He’s not perfect but to single him out is pathetic and boring now.

saved us well over 4. Cardiff game is the first to spring to mind

 

[Simonized]

What about the shambolic “defending” in front of him and some vital saves he made in other games?

He’s not perfect but to single him out is pathetic and boring now.

Maxwell was 1 clean sheet in 7 and at one point it was 1 in 10 before MA was sacked.
Grimmy was 1 clean sheet in 3 before he was dropped and since he came back he has kept 3 clean sheets in 5.
If that doesn't ring any alarm bells with you then god help us.

 

[Martonmosser]

Ur forgetting Appleton he started the shit show,but yea the board fucked up big time

He should have either been backed for the full transfer window or potted after Wigan away

 

[Down but not out]

…… we would still be a Championship team tonight. Why the fcuk did we appoint the dinosaur

Totally agree , mcarthey was the the worst manager I’ve seen ever, but having said that most of the 400 sight see ers there today have a lot to answer for

 

[BigHandsOliverKahn]

Without Wigan and Reading being deducted points, we'd have still finished bottom.

 

[abt1835]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing

 

[Down but not out]

Ur forgetting Appleton he started the shit show,but yea the board fucked up big time

Appleton signed Morgan, in fact Morgan only came because Appleton was here, anyway I think it’s fair to say without Morgan Dobbie would have accumulated 4 points less

 

[BFC_53]

Without Wigan and Reading being deducted points, we'd have still finished bottom.

Presumably though they managed to get those extra points by fielding players they couldn't really afford? Which is the whole point of deducting the points..

 

[BFC_53]

What about the shambolic “defending” in front of him and some vital saves he made in other games?

He’s not perfect but to single him out is pathetic and boring now.

The defending has been poor all season, but the fact is Grimmy has three clean sheets in five games now - with the same defenders in front of him. It might be down to better organisation in general, but also sometimes the goalie gives the defenders more confidence by being more decisive, displaying better judgement, and being more aggressive. Maxwell's a good keeper, as he proved when he kept god knows how many clean sheets in the promotion season. But, he's been woefully out of form for weeks. I don't accept this notion that because he's a good shot stopper he should be our number one. Grimshaw proved today he can do that too, but you need more than that to keep the goals conceded column down.

 

[Simonized]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing

Nothing I have posted in this thread as I have been banging on about this shit all season.

 

[1966_and_all_that]

…… we would still be a Championship team tonight. Why the fcuk did we appoint the dinosaur

The name Mansford springs to mind.

 

[XBeds-Now-Kings_Meaburn]

Same might have happened with Dobbie or whoever else came in . If we had landed Warnock & still got relegated we'd be slgging off that decision too . SS should have pushed the boat out and prized pep away from Citeh but there would still be no guarantees , its football its life you cant live by hindsight

 

[Spoonerfudj]

Without Wigan and Reading being deducted points, we'd have still finished bottom.

Correct.
Ifs, buts and maybes
The fact remains we didn't beat Cardiff. They battered us at home for the second, consecutive season ( McCarthy in the blue corner last year)
We lost more games and "earned" fewer points than any other team, deductions notwithstanding.
We were probably the worst team in the Championship.
Let's hope we take stock, select wisely and rebuild, otherwise we might be struggling to consolidate in League 1.

 

[navel]

…… we would still be a Championship team tonight. Why the fcuk did we appoint the dinosaur

Or - we wouldn't have sacked McCarthy and then we wouldn't have picked up the nine points we got under Dobbie (maybe 4 at most). Agreed the problem was appointing McCarthy in the first place, and I suspect we have our recently departed Sporting Director Mr Badlan to thank for that one.