So...

A classic example here of the left wing media purposefully whipping up a storm and twisting it to suit their agenda.

He was clearly on the car industry.

It's pretty pathetic to try and spin that as if he meant it another way which would cause a lot of distress and alarm to people.
 
JJpool said:
A classic example here of the left wing media purposefully whipping up a storm and twisting it to suit their agenda.

He was clearly on the car industry.

It's pretty pathetic to try and spin that as if he meant it another way which would cause a lot of distress and alarm to people.
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Maybe, if he didn't have form for inciting violence.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Maybe, if he didn't have form for inciting violence.
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It's still disingenuous from the media, who've done so much of that against him, even if he has at times made some ridiculous statements.

Given how much some don't want him in power it wouldn't surprise me if some of what he said is true about potential dirty tricks that certain elemens of the state can use, like the Russia claims.

Seems a right mess over there in the US, political judges etc.
 
JJpool said:
It's still disingenuous from the media, who've done so much of that against him, even if he has at times made some ridiculous statements.

Given how much some don't want him in power it wouldn't surprise me if some of what he said is true about potential dirty tricks that certain elemens of the state can use, like the Russia claims.

Seems a right mess over there in the US, political judges etc.
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It doesn't really matter what was said by whom and when or how they media reported it, this man tried to over turn the results of a democratic election by force as as a sitting president, he's now referring to bloodbaths, the context is irrelevant.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
It doesn't really matter what was said by whom and when or how they media reported it, this man tried to over turn the results of a democratic election by force as as a sitting president, he's now referring to bloodbaths, the context is irrelevant.
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Ahh so if he says I'm going to demolish the cake let's cut it and insert the word 'world', may as well just put any old words in his mouth and report it as fact then.

I thought people wanted good media standards...
 
How much lacquer does Trump put on his hair, if it really is his own hair?
It never moves when he shakes his head.
Just like his every word, false?
 
JJpool said:
Ahh so if he says I'm going to demolish the cake let's cut it and insert the word 'world', may as well just put any old words in his mouth and report it as fact then.

I thought people wanted good media standards...
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Look, I know what you're thinking but a) you're not naive enough to believe these words weren't chosen for the subtext and b) fu(k him, he made his bed.
 
Must say Trump does make good TV and his approach is really quite astonishing or audacious depending on your point of view.

He actually stands in front of the world's press and blatantly tells lies, brags and has zero class .

The republican party adore him look how ge smashed all opposition during recent primaries- I mean really battered everyone .

I have a friend who lives in NYC and he tells me that he is generally despised in the big cities.He reckons mist of his support know he is talking shite and whips up strife .He reckons American politics is do fkt and society riven by culture wars that Trump can present himself as a a real alternative who will " drain the swamp"

If we were a Republic it would not surprise me if our current head of state would e president Johnson ot more likely president Farage .

Lastly despite court cases, fines of about $half a billion etc this man will be voted in as next president of the USA.

We'll all survive ,well maybe the Ukraine will be fkt over within 24 hours
 
JJpool said:
It's still disingenuous from the media, who've done so much of that against him, even if he has at times made some ridiculous statements.

Given how much some don't want him in power it wouldn't surprise me if some of what he said is true about potential dirty tricks that certain elemens of the state can use, like the Russia claims.

Seems a right mess over there in the US, political judges etc.
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Most of the Supreme Court judges were appointed by Trump.
 
Bisphamtang said:
Must say Trump does make good TV and his approach is really quite astonishing or audacious depending on your point of view.

He actually stands in front of the world's press and blatantly tells lies, brags and has zero class .

The republican party adore him look how ge smashed all opposition during recent primaries- I mean really battered everyone .

I have a friend who lives in NYC and he tells me that he is generally despised in the big cities.He reckons mist of his support know he is talking shite and whips up strife .He reckons American politics is do fkt and society riven by culture wars that Trump can present himself as a a real alternative who will " drain the swamp"

If we were a Republic it would not surprise me if our current head of state would e president Johnson ot more likely president Farage .

Lastly despite court cases, fines of about $half a billion etc this man will be voted in as next president of the USA.

We'll all survive ,well maybe the Ukraine will be fkt over within 24 hours
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I am not sure.
The podcast Leading with Campbell and Stewart had one time Trump spokesman Scaramucci (for 20 days or something) as a guest recently.
It was great radio and he gave some interesting views.
Trump is disliked by women everywhere mainly for being associated with favoring restrictions on abortion - this is one of the things that Trump has enabled. And that is apart from his sexual assault conviction, misogynistic language and bullying nature. For Scaramucci the abortion decisions will cause him not to win the swing states giving us 4 more years of Biden.
Mike Pence said that he will not support Trump the other day, but was mild in his criticism. There are other responsible republicans who take the same stance. There are also mounting legal problems for Trump and most sane Americans will not vote for more chaos including some Republicans (probably not vote at all). Therefore I predict a defeat for Trump, maybe it is wishful thinking.
 
JJpool said:
Don't they change with the new administration? Either way it's a weird political system over there.
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No, they are appointed for life. It is actually the most damaging thing he left, and the reason why they are going backwards in what we would think are civilised issues. Any gun control measures announced by any Democrat will be struck down, abortion will become a thing of the past, and Trump will be cleared of any convictions by the Supreme Court. Some of the dudes on there shouldn't be running a car wash, never mind the final say on Law and `order.
 
Trumps been attacked like nobody else in history.
He keeps going, got to give him credit.
I hope he wins.
The Democrats are a disgrace.
Come on D Trump
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
It doesn't really matter what was said by whom and when or how they media reported it, this man tried to over turn the results of a democratic election by force as as a sitting president, he's now referring to bloodbaths, the context is irrelevant.
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Postal votes should be scrapped. Turn up or you lose your vote. Not too difficult surely.
 
Tangerinemoss said:
No, they are appointed for life. It is actually the most damaging thing he left, and the reason why they are going backwards in what we would think are civilised issues. Any gun control measures announced by any Democrat will be struck down, abortion will become a thing of the past, and Trump will be cleared of any convictions by the Supreme Court. Some of the dudes on there shouldn't be running a car wash, never mind the final say on Law and `order.
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But if Trump can appoint why can't the next president?
 
no9 said:
Trumps been attacked like nobody else in history.
He keeps going, got to give him credit.
I hope he wins.
The Democrats are a disgrace.
Come on D Trump
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I think he will win and Biden is a joke.

Tbf they are both still going in this debate.

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no9 said:
Trumps been attacked like nobody else in history.
He keeps going, got to give him credit.
I hope he wins.
The Democrats are a disgrace.
Come on D Trump
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So you’re saying Trump is special and above the law?

Not accountable like everyone else?
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
So just ban it for some, possibly those who might vote Democrat then?

Trump is a **, get over it.
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You lot are unbelievable, if your not labour or democrat your a cxxt.

You have Biden who’s so bad it’s not true yet you back him no matter what.
 
no9 said:
You lot are unbelievable, if your not labour or democrat your a cxxt.

You have Biden who’s so bad it’s not true yet you back him no matter what.
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Nowt to do with parties, Blair was a ** if that helps, Trump is a whole new level.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Nowt to do with parties, Blair was a ** if that helps, Trump is a whole new level.
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Trump might win because the Democrats are shocking.

Don’t blame Trump for getting around 50% of the votes, if he’s useless he’s not getting votes.
 
no9 said:
Trump might win because the Democrats are shocking.

Don’t blame Trump for getting around 50% of the votes, if he’s useless he’s not getting votes.
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Biden is bang average, but it's a low bar.

I expect Trump will win.
 
Tangerinemoss said:
Sheer chance with deaths and retirements
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I suppose they had to be filled then, weird system though, but not like he hasn't seen the system in full against him most of the time too. They've thrown everything at him and he's still there, probably stronger than ever.
 
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