Someone not too happy.

Brannagan isn't worth the asking price and bearing in mind the reality of our position at this point in the season, there's little point in paying over the odds for anyone. Our focus should be on the next transfer window and I would expect that Oxford will be more realistic then about the valuation of Brannagan if they don't gain promotion...
 
And that's fine but my overall point is, we haven't seen progression in terms of quality as I don't remotely agree with your point about Mitchell/Kirk.

And they wanted to pay for quality clearly. So people are allowed to be disappointed in a lack of progression.
Kurt l understand your frustration and we all knew where the squad needed strengthening the most by the addition of a CM player(s) but Oxford we’re desperate to hang onto CB at all cost as they strive for promotion, and equally Norburn at Peterborough was perhaps just a long shot but again they need their captain to help their relegation battle (tall order maybe). Hopefully we will have Stewart back fit again when he returns from International duty, but we’ve also got Robson back who can play in that role. Personally l find the January transfer window a bit of a joke with clubs panic buying that can be financially painful in the long run, but for me getting the right players in at the right price in the summer window is absolutely key to our success next season.
If Oxford don't get promoted and Peterborough get relegated then CB and ON will be wanting away, whether the club still want to pursue them in the summer is up to NC and the board.
 
As was the case last season, when one door closed another one opened. I think we’ll all be surprised over the coming games, I believe we’re starting to fire on 5 cylinders & if that 6th splutters into life who knows. I’m happy the way things have turned out. On Bowler he’s always looked lively but without much end result. That seems to be changing of late, which makes for an interesting rest of the season.
 
I'm happy we've kept Bowler as I'd rather one of the best wingers in the division, currently on fire, over getting Rogers on loan and strengthening the midfield when we have Robson and Stewart back.

The Barranagan stuff is frustrating though. Personally, I feel £1.2M is a little over the odds. But to land on an offer 200K less than that (and what his reported, now expired, release clause was) just before the window closed isn't great planning. Couldn't we have cashed in on Robson with MK Dons and met CB's release clause, which, net, would have then been less than a million? Unless I've misunderstood some of the fees etc.

We'll struggle to keep hold of Bowler in the summer, and if he makes it clear he won't sign an extension we should activate the year add on and then get the biggest fee poss in summer. I'm just not sure why we were lining up Bowler going to bring all these other last minute transfers in when it's Brannagan that Critch obviously really wanted as well as, as we've just seen, keeping Bowler. I don't see why we couldn't have had both and really made a statement about which end of the table we are looking at - especially when we've stopped Forest getting Bowler, who we are currently 6 points behind with a game in hand.
 
Given we have Virtue Ward Stewart and Carey in particular all to return from injury at varying stages we will be in a better position still come the summer to refine what we really need.

Sometimes what you need is right under your nose and the last thing we need is surplus poor signings having recalibrated with exits over the window.

With regards to the Kirk signing the truth is as with all acquisition's we don't know until the lad is given a run however we could say that about inumerate numbers of our current squad when first signed.

Bowler being a principal case in point.
 
Kurt l understand your frustration and we all knew where the squad needed strengthening the most by the addition of a CM player(s) but Oxford we’re desperate to hang onto CB at all cost as they strive for promotion, and equally Norburn at Peterborough was perhaps just a long shot but again they need their captain to help their relegation battle (tall order maybe). Hopefully we will have Stewart back fit again when he returns from International duty, but we’ve also got Robson back who can play in that role. Personally l find the January transfer window a bit of a joke with clubs panic buying that can be financially painful in the long run, but for me getting the right players in at the right price in the summer window is absolutely key to our success next season.
If Oxford don't get promoted and Peterborough get relegated then CB and ON will be wanting away, whether the club still want to pursue them in the summer is up to NC and the board.
It's not just me that's frustrated though is it? It's NC. He decided he wanted CB and ON, not just one or the other, he wanted both. He doesn't rate Robson and he can't rely on Stewart.
 
Mitchell has done it at League one level too. So you cannot say he is an upgrade.

Strike force wasn't a priority. Central midfield was. Which, considering we lost one of our most consistent performers and turned out to be one of the first few names on the team sheet. We've gone backwards. Which is fine and we're safe but it suggests we're content with that and whatever happens the rest of the season happens.

They wanted Brannigan and were prepared to pay decent money for him.
Brannagan isn't worth the asking price and bearing in mind the reality of our position at this point in the season, there's little point in paying over the odds for anyone. Our focus should be on the next transfer window and I would expect that Oxford will be more realistic then about the valuation of Brannagan if they don't gain promotion...
But I wanted Brannigan now!!!
 
The bloke is right though

We have failed to get our top target in and have pished about with bids that didn't match his valuation

And we are weaker in midfield than when we started the season

Them the facts ...
And Forest and Bournemouth 'failed' in their bids for Josh Bowler. If a club doesn't want to sell then they don't have to.
We re in much better shape post window than pre and, points wise and recent performances, we weren't in bad shape before.
Some people want everything right now and, generally speaking, that's just not how life works and nor should it
 
If Brannagan is all that good how come there weren't several clubs clamouring for his signature ? As far as I'm aware both in the summer and this window we are the only club who have tried to sign him . Just find it puzzling .
Brannagan is quality and if Critch didn’t think so we would not have expended so much energy to try to get him.
 
It's not just me that's frustrated though is it? It's NC. He decided he wanted CB and ON, not just one or the other, he wanted both. He doesn't rate Robson and he can't rely on Stewart.
What you want you don’t always get for the reasons l explained above re CB and ON. Equally, as fans we didn’t want those 3 donkeys signed in the Jan 2011 window but we got them for the exact opposite reasons as to why we didn’t land our targets this window.
 
Enjoying the dialogue with many valid points being made by all sides. But we have to remember that we are not the ones who have to put our hands in our pocket to find the necessary money. I have been following the Mighty Pool longer than most people here and for me these are the most exciting of times, delighted and confident for the future in the way our club is being managed. When was the last time Blackpool was in safe hands. And I feel if the previous odious owners had been in control the club would have accepted something like £1m and we know where the money would have gone. Happy days.
 
We are short in central midfield and currently have a right back filling in there. All it takes is for kenny or connolly to be injured and we are abit goosed in there. Kev Stewart will fill in for 20 mins untill he gets a phone call about a new property development oppertunity that requires his attention for 4 months. With kesh man and carey out for a while we really need a loan in having not got anybody. Brannagen was the answer I personnaly felt, bit gutted we didnt land him. People saying regroup in summer forgetting we are only 8 points off play offs…
 
Apart from Gretasson I’d say it’s been a really productive window. We turned 3 million down for a player! Let that sink in!
There must be a very good reason for us turning down the £2-4m offer for JB when he can quite easily move in the summer for free, have we offered him a longer and improved contract l wonder?🤔
 
Really pleased we’ve managed to keep hold of all our best players. That was top priority.
Next priority was to sign a creative midfielder and it’s pretty obvious that we’ve failed on that score.
I do not think it was a fail
We could have bought Brannagan who is probably still our no1 target, but we held firm on what we believed his value was.
We have enough quality in midfield to be safe this season, and do not think we will feature in the playoffs.
 
People are allowed to be pissed off we have gone backwards in this windows. It’s very small time from people to be that happy we have kept Bowler.

Superb player but no one would have been arsed a month ago.

At some point we need to get out of this proper small club mentality where you have to be happy we kept someone.

People want progress and you can do that in the January window.
Kurt, I think backwards would have been if we had sold a couple of our stronger players.
Keeping Bowler (although we don’t know for how long) is a positive move because he is a very influential player who is developing with every game.
I don’t see us a “small” club, but equally we are not a massive club with money to burn.
Yes, the transfer window is a great opportunity to progress but you need money.
When people slag the club off for not getting this player or that player then to me that is a direct slur on the owner or manager or both.
People quite easily forget the “Progress” we have made under Sadler and Critch so let them carry on doing what they are doing.
Certainly no complaints from me and no doubts lots of fellow Blackpool SUPPORTERS!
 
There must be a very good reason for us turning down the £2-4m offer for JB when he can quite easily move in the summer for free, have we offered him a longer and improved contract l wonder?🤔
He can’t move in the summer for free. We have the option of another year.
 
Ethan Robson is the forgotten man in all this for me.

He was the key component of a midfield which is currently 4th in League One. MK fans were gutted to lose him and they had a couple of bids rejected for him. If he wasn't our player, and we signed him from MK this window, then people would be creaming themselves.

Yes he's unproven at this level, but so is Brannagan.

I understood the thinking behind Connolly playing in central midfield against Millwall & Fulham - Millwall was always going to be a battle so we needed his graft & against Fulham we were always going to have long periods defending without the ball.

Chuck Robson in alongside Dougall against Bristol City on Saturday and let's see what he can do now he's at full fitness and full of confidence. He may just be the missing piece.
 
The bloke is right though

We have failed to get our top target in and have pished about with bids that didn't match his valuation

And we are weaker in midfield than when we started the season

Them the facts ...
Agreed.

Although the OP is over the top with his comments, I do think there is something in what he says about our recruitment team.

Football transfers are business dealings relying on the experience of the negotiating parties and of course the money being offered. But I reckon a lot of it is also down to who you know, contacts, favours owed etc.. Genuine question then, do we have anyone at the club with the requisite ‘experience’ to get the more difficult deals over the line?
 
So who’s this guy?
You've screenshotted my tweet, came off twitter, loaded up an anonymous message board to ask who I am/criticise what I've said. My name is on my twitter handle and make no attempts to hide who I am. So why didn't you ask who I am on twitter instead, or were you more interested in posting on here to start a thread off and hiding behind a username?
 
You've screenshotted my tweet, came off twitter, loaded up an anonymous message board to ask who I am/criticise what I've said. My name is on my twitter handle and make no attempts to hide who I am. So why didn't you ask who I am on twitter instead, or were you more interested in posting on here to start a thread off and hiding behind a username?
Just a thought but maybe I don’t do Twitter?
If you look closely I actually pulled it off the Preston board such a shame their all using your comments as an example of what most Blackpool fans think of the transfer window when clearly it’s not the case.
As a new member on here I do hope you soon change your views otherwise you’ll be slated for it and rightly so.
Other than that welcome to the forum.
 
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Been making a whopper out of himself all night on Twitter.

Clearly wasn't around in transfer windows controlled by our previous resigm with a complete lack of strategy or infrastructure.

Perfect example of an Under 30 I want it all now football fan who's grown up with nothing but the PremierLeague.
Another hiding behind a username and not said anything on twitter when you quite clearly follow me. Nothing I've said is wrong. We've spent 2 transfer windows chasing Brannagan. The release clause was £1.2m but we kept lowballing them with bids of £500k - £600k before upping it to £1m 50 minutes before the window closed and once the clause had expired. A championship club shouldn't be flapping over £200k for their managers number 1 target, simple as that.
 
You've screenshotted my tweet, came off twitter, loaded up an anonymous message board to ask who I am/criticise what I've said. My name is on my twitter handle and make no attempts to hide who I am. So why didn't you ask who I am on twitter instead, or were you more interested in posting on here to start a thread off and hiding behind a username?

He's pulled it from the PNE message board to be fair
 
A fat Sam Smith lookalike and wannabe hard man. Always wants to go against the grain to gain some sort of relevance.
Wannabe hard man from a guy who clearly knows who I am but has chosen to hide behind a username on an anonymous message board and not said anything to me in person or on twitter where your name is known. Nice one. 🤡
 
Why do people say Brannagan is over the odds?

Based on what?

He's been consistently one of the best central midfield players in the division over a couple of seasons

Critchley knows him has worked with him before and made him our top target over 2 transfer windows

So however you dress it up we have failed to get our top target in over a matter of a couple of hundred grand

Something happened in the Bowler deal as the club was willing to sell him, maybe a medical issue I'm not sure but it wasn't just a case of us rejecting the offer

We are desperately short in midfield and i worry that Sadler hasn't got the money some think he has

Currently Dougall is our any recognised fit central midfield player who has played regularly in this league

That has to be a concern for even the most "everything is fine" fan

To me it looked like if the Bowler deal had of gone through we probably would have increased the offer for Brannagan or brought in someone else

I think cash flow is tight unfortunately...
 
Another hiding behind a username and not said anything on twitter when you quite clearly follow me. Nothing I've said is wrong. We've spent 2 transfer windows chasing Brannagan. The release clause was £1.2m but we kept lowballing them with bids of £500k - £600k before upping it to £1m 50 minutes before the window closed and once the clause had expired. A championship club shouldn't be flapping over £200k for their managers number 1 target, simple as that.

I don't follow you, nor have I got any intention of ever following you, why would I ??. I was on Twitter last night looking at the Club, Matt Scrafton and Alan Nixon's updates, people who know what they are talking about and you appeared on their twitter feeds. I happened to read a couple of your responses, but then gave up reading anymore of them.
 
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It's not just me that's frustrated though is it? It's NC. He decided he wanted CB and ON, not just one or the other, he wanted both. He doesn't rate Robson and he can't rely on Stewart.
Are you sure he does not rate Robson
We turned down 2 offers for him and I remember Critch saying he was monitoring Robson's progress while at MK Dons.
If we had just signed 2 young regular L1 performers from other teams (Ethan and Jordan) rather than them being already our own players would people be happier?
 
Lot of nonsense on this thread that I've taken issue with on my twitter thay clearly many of you have seen judging by your responses - all funnily have taken to your avftt username to criticise me rather than replying to me on twitter though, strange that.

Nothing I've said is wrong, maybe worded angrily, but not wrong. We spent the whole of the summer window chasing Brannagan and then all of January chasing him too. The number to meet in his release clause was always £1.2m, we knew that in the summer and we knew that January 1st but we still kept lowballing them with odds of £500k-£700k. Brannagan is a very good player and would suit our set up down to the ground, Critchley clearly feels the same or so much energy wouldn't have been expended on the chase of him.
If we value him at a certain price, then that's fair enough. But he is Oxfords best midfielder and unless we hit the release clause, they were well within their rights to turn the bids down. No problem with that. But, if we only value him at a set amount, why waste so much time on it? We are clearly lacking in centre midfield, we all know that. If we don't want to meet the number because we feel its overpriced or overstretching us, move on to the next, cheaper option. But to finish the window having not replace a very capable holding midfielder in Wintle, is a failure on the recruitment teams part and massively letting Critchley down. Simple as that.

I don't come on here or post on here but was sent the thread about me so decided to respond. If any of my twitter followers don't like my views, instead of hiding behind your username on here, tell me on twitter and I'll gladly discuss it with you on there or if it makes you feel better, I'll block you and spare you from reading what I put.
 
I don't follow you, nor have I got any intention of ever following you, why would I ??. I was on Twitter last night looking at the Club, Matt Scrafton and Alan Nixon's updates and you appeared on their twitter feeds. I happened to read a couple of your responses, but then gave up reading anymore of them.
Gave up but read enough to form an opinion of me that you felt brave enough to post anonymously when you could just as easily have called me out on twitter. Utter divvy.
 
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Why do people say Brannagan is over the odds?

Based on what?

He's been consistently one of the best central midfield players in the division over a couple of seasons

Critchley knows him has worked with him before and made him our top target over 2 transfer windows

So however you dress it up we have failed to get our top target in over a matter of a couple of hundred grand

Something happened in the Bowler deal as the club was willing to sell him, maybe a medical issue I'm not sure but it wasn't just a case of us rejecting the offer

We are desperately short in midfield and i worry that Sadler hasn't got the money some think he has

Currently Dougall is our any recognised fit central midfield player who has played regularly in this league

That has to be a concern for even the most "everything is fine" fan

To me it looked like if the Bowler deal had of gone through we probably would have increased the offer for Brannagan or brought in someone else

I think cash flow is tight unfortunately...
We failed to get our top target, but at the same point he’s not played regularly in this League has he?

Interesting thought on the Bowler deal, something will come out maybe.

Our model is probably sell to buy bigger and better. We’ve still spent a decent chunk this season, it’s gonna take time.

When Oxford don’t go up i think we’ll get him in the summer.
 
We weren't going to sell Robson without knowing we had CM covered. It's what happens to a lot of players in January. Thornily has obviously gone through something similar. They'll both probably get game time now, but I'd be surprised if they were Blackpool players be the end of the summer window.
 
Why do people say Brannagan is over the odds?

Based on what?

He's been consistently one of the best central midfield players in the division over a couple of seasons

Critchley knows him has worked with him before and made him our top target over 2 transfer windows

So however you dress it up we have failed to get our top target in over a matter of a couple of hundred grand

Something happened in the Bowler deal as the club was willing to sell him, maybe a medical issue I'm not sure but it wasn't just a case of us rejecting the offer

We are desperately short in midfield and i worry that Sadler hasn't got the money some think he has

Currently Dougall is our any recognised fit central midfield player who has played regularly in this league

That has to be a concern for even the most "everything is fine" fan

To me it looked like if the Bowler deal had of gone through we probably would have increased the offer for Brannagan or brought in someone else

I think cash flow is tight unfortunately...

If you're sub-quoting me: I said your first sentence purely on personal opinion from seeing him play and the fact we do have Robson and Stewart coming back.

I think he's a better CM than some of those, don't get me wrong, but to pay £1.2M without, i.e, offloading Robson seems a bit much IMO. Though I said I agree he's Critch's target so we should have done more to make it happen and it's silly we've backed ourselves into a corner over the fee - when I think it's very feasible we could have actually ended the window with both Bowler and Brannagan as explained. So I wasn't 'dressing it up', if you're referring to what I said.

How do you know it wasn't us deciding to reject the offer? We'd rejected previous offers, were obviously after more and it seemed to me we had an idea of what we wanted to let Bowler go for - our best player with 18 months left on his contract - before pressing the button on the rest of the linked transfers.

Maybe a medical issue? Runs top of the league ragged for 90 mins a couple of days prior - not so sure on that one.

Also don't think our transfer fee is a bottomless pit, especially with the plans for the East stand. Probably an element of being sensible given we're likely safe.
 
We weren't going to sell Robson without knowing we had CM covered. It's what happens to a lot of players in January. Thornily has obviously gone through something similar. They'll both probably get game time now, but I'd be surprised if they were Blackpool players be the end of the summer window.

My point was: could we not have sounded out MK Dons on making Robinson permanent with a view to meeting Brannagan's release clause before it expired? Apparently we've now ended up 200K short of that, and Robinson would have gone for more.
 
We failed to get our top target, but at the same point he’s not played regularly in this League has he?

Interesting thought on the Bowler deal, something will come out maybe.

Our model is probably sell to buy bigger and better. We’ve still spent a decent chunk this season, it’s gonna take time.

When Oxford don’t go up i think we’ll get him in the summer.
Indeed, it's about incremental gains in the squad over time. We're clearly a better side now than the one that finished last season. Keeping Bowler really emphasised that point. If he leaves in the summer, it's all about ensuring the funds are properly reinvested. Just to put things into context of our financial clout, Forest get an average attendance approximately double ours, which aside from the basic maths of ticket sales - will also increase all their commercial revenues too. Their owner has an estimated net worth of approx £550m. It's chalk and cheese, but it doesn't mean we can't make genuine progress and be competitive.
 
My point was: could we not have sounded out MK Dons on making Robinson permanent with a view to meeting Brannagan's release clause before it expired? Apparently we've now ended up 200K short of that, and Robinson would have gone for more.
Who knows? Maybe we did, maybe we didn't?

I think in the cases of Brannigan and Bowler the 'selling' clubs both had reasons to hold firm and reject offers. Oxford want promotion and we want the right fee. It happens, even with the best of intent from the buying clubs.
 
Kurt, I think backwards would have been if we had sold a couple of our stronger players.
Keeping Bowler (although we don’t know for how long) is a positive move because he is a very influential player who is developing with every game.
I don’t see us a “small” club, but equally we are not a massive club with money to burn.
Yes, the transfer window is a great opportunity to progress but you need money.
When people slag the club off for not getting this player or that player then to me that is a direct slur on the owner or manager or both.
People quite easily forget the “Progress” we have made under Sadler and Critch so let them carry on doing what they are doing.
Certainly no complaints from me and no doubts lots of fellow Blackpool SUPPORTERS!
What's the capitals Supporters about? Is that a dig at me?

Backwards would be losing a central midfielder who was massive in how we played and didn't replace at all. Let alone spend hundreds of hours trying to get a player and generally dithering over 250k. Karl did the same on the regular let's face it and we lost our heads about it.

Keeping players is fantastic, especially Bowler. But the overreaction is insane, considering the majority of those delighted we kept him were slagging him off months ago.
 
Lot of nonsense on this thread that I've taken issue with on my twitter thay clearly many of you have seen judging by your responses - all funnily have taken to your avftt username to criticise me rather than replying to me on twitter though, strange that.

Nothing I've said is wrong, maybe worded angrily, but not wrong. We spent the whole of the summer window chasing Brannagan and then all of January chasing him too. The number to meet in his release clause was always £1.2m, we knew that in the summer and we knew that January 1st but we still kept lowballing them with odds of £500k-£700k. Brannagan is a very good player and would suit our set up down to the ground, Critchley clearly feels the same or so much energy wouldn't have been expended on the chase of him.
If we value him at a certain price, then that's fair enough. But he is Oxfords best midfielder and unless we hit the release clause, they were well within their rights to turn the bids down. No problem with that. But, if we only value him at a set amount, why waste so much time on it? We are clearly lacking in centre midfield, we all know that. If we don't want to meet the number because we feel its overpriced or overstretching us, move on to the next, cheaper option. But to finish the window having not replace a very capable holding midfielder in Wintle, is a failure on the recruitment teams part and massively letting Critchley down. Simple as that.

I don't come on here or post on here but was sent the thread about me so decided to respond. If any of my twitter followers don't like my views, instead of hiding behind your username on here, tell me on twitter and I'll gladly discuss it with you on there or if it makes you feel better, I'll block you and spare you from reading what I put.
I happen to agree with you

But saying that, it probably isn't much of an endorsement given how much grief i get on this site from the keyboard warriors who no fcuker knows in the real world

Potts and Proud are two posters i do know and they are both good lads to be fair

The club have failed massively to strengthen our midfield thats the point in all this
 
Typical AVFTT shit houses I see. Jaffa_The_Hut why haven’t you replied to his tweet instead of moving it to a different platform of social media?
 
Why do people say Brannagan is over the odds?

Based on what?

He's been consistently one of the best central midfield players in the division over a couple of seasons

Critchley knows him has worked with him before and made him our top target over 2 transfer windows

So however you dress it up we have failed to get our top target in over a matter of a couple of hundred grand

Something happened in the Bowler deal as the club was willing to sell him, maybe a medical issue I'm not sure but it wasn't just a case of us rejecting the offer

We are desperately short in midfield and i worry that Sadler hasn't got the money some think he has

Currently Dougall is our any recognised fit central midfield player who has played regularly in this league

That has to be a concern for even the most "everything is fine" fan

To me it looked like if the Bowler deal had of gone through we probably would have increased the offer for Brannagan or brought in someone else

I think cash flow is tight unfortunately...
He's overpriced, based upon the fact that his valuation has been based purely on a predetermined release clause, as opposed to the fee he might expect to command, based on similar transfers. £750K - £1M seems to be around the right sort of price for a CM, making the move from a L1 to mid table Championship Club.

We've no real need to bust a gut to get anyone right now... We're not going up (sorry to break it to everyone) and we're not going down, so what advantage is there to over-spending, when we can do decent business in the summer?

Yep, if we can get a player in at the right price, I'm all for that, but paying a premium in January, just to maybe finish a couple oif places higher in the league (absolutely pointless).
 
If Brannagan is all that good how come there weren't several clubs clamouring for his signature ? As far as I'm aware both in the summer and this window we are the only club who have tried to sign him . Just find it puzzling .
Ah, so you’re seeing Critchley is wrong for wanting him?

Seems this window has created a divide. Are we meant to trust Critchley or trust the board?
 
Ah, so you’re seeing Critchley is wrong for wanting him?

Seems this window has created a divide. Are we meant to trust Critchley or trust the board?
Beyond obsessive. I've never known a player a club has wanted as much as Critch and the Board did and then refused to pay what Oxford wanted. The whole episode is peculiar and doesn't add up.
 
Beyond obsessive. I've never known a player a club has wanted as much as Critch and the Board did and then refused to pay what Oxford wanted. The whole episode is peculiar and doesn't add up.

Of course it adds up. You identify who you want, you identify what you think he's worth as a maximum and you try to secure the signing for a fee below the maximum value if you can. If it doesn't come off, you don't keep chasing to way beyond your originally identified maximum level.

By the same logic, it doesn't add up because Bowler didn't leave. Or maybe all parties couldn't agree terms and nobody felt obliged to break from their positions. It happens.
 
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