SPOTY candidates - BBC haven't got a clue

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I see the BBC have done their usual game of ruining the Sports personality of the year by foisting their list of their candidates upon us

Jordan Henderson
Lewis Hamilton
Tyson Fury
Hollie Doyle
Stuart Broad
Ronnie O'Sullivan

Why don't they just rename t politically correct lost of people who play the last few sports we show a bit of on BBC.

No Marcus Rashford, no Rob Burrow. Lewis Hamilton - personality hmmm.
 
I see the BBC have done their usual game of ruining the Sports personality of the year by foisting their list of their candidates upon us

Jordan Henderson
Lewis Hamilton
Tyson Fury
Hollie Doyle
Stuart Broad
Ronnie O'Sullivan

Why don't they just rename t politically correct lost of people who play the last few sports we show a bit of on BBC.

No Marcus Rashford, no Rob Burrow. Lewis Hamilton - personality hmmm.
Amazed Rashford isn't on there. Special award on the night...
 
Haven’t watched this for a long long time...no interest whatsoever...as said if it is a public vote why have a short list of their choice.
Crap programme...end of.
Agreed, for me it is an irrelevancy and has been for years. And I used to watch it every year for some reason. Rashford will almost certainly get a "special mention" or something. But they should just let the public decide without forcing a handful of names to choose from.
 
Jordan feckin Henderson - wtf. So if you just happen to be the Captain of a great team, but you have the football ability and skill of a dead parrot, you are nominated for SOTY.

I truly despair. Who on Planet Zog makes these decisions?.
 
Jordan feckin Henderson - wtf. So if you just happen to be the Captain of a great team, but you have the football ability and skill of a dead parrot, you are nominated for SOTY.

I truly despair. Who on Planet Zog makes these decisions?.
I wondered how long it would take you

Calm down, calm down (in Scouse accent) 🤣
 
Jordan feckin Henderson - wtf. So if you just happen to be the Captain of a great team, but you have the football ability and skill of a dead parrot, you are nominated for SOTY.

I truly despair. Who on Planet Zog makes these decisions?.
He's probably Liverpool's most important player - ask a Liverpool fan. Lost 7-2 to Villa without him. He's a leader, they are not the same without him. Obviously you will never climb down. Ever.

Liverpool stormed the league, he deserves to be nominated. Anyone not bitter and twisted can see it really.
 
Why Rashord he wasn't in the nominees for PL player of year and lost out to young player of the year Trent Alexander-Arnold and hasn't had a good football calendar year.
 
Anyone not bitter and twisted can see it really
My posts regularly concede he is a good captain, but a top footballer? nah, I've seen too many quality footballers over the years to realise who are class, and who are distinctly average. Hendo is in the latter category. Consequently, for him to win SOTY would be an affront to the quality Sportsmen and Women who have been shortlisted before. Thats not bitter and twisted, just a structured well thought out comment based on fact and opinion.
 
My posts regularly concede he is a good captain, but a top footballer? nah, I've seen too many quality footballers over the years to realise who are class, and who are distinctly average. Hendo is in the latter category. Consequently, for him to win SOTY would be an affront to the quality Sportsmen and Women who have been shortlisted before. Thats not bitter and twisted, just a structured well thought out comment based on fact and opinion.
Ha ha ha ha!!! 🤣
 
With regards Rob Burrow I believe you have to be a current sports person to be considered for this award.
 
Hamilton is in there - Rashford hasn't been great and Burrow has achieved something away from a sporting success.
Cable, There was a full stop after Rashford and Burrow. I was then making the point that IMHO Hamilton has 'no' personality.

I have also been tremendously inspired, touched and moved by Rob Burrows's story and his fight against MND, which to me has been the sports personality story of the year.
 
Why Rashord he wasn't in the nominees for PL player of year and lost out to young player of the year Trent Alexander-Arnold and hasn't had a good football calendar year.
Why don't they take the word personality away from it then and call it sports performer of the year.

Someone also made a point on the radio that they should have separate awards for the women's SPOTY and perhaps the paralympic SPOTY. I agree with this a it would reflect well on today's broader sports environment
 
The winner is the sportsperson, judged by a public vote, to have achieved the most that year the personality bit is just something it's called and always has been and on that premise Rashford shouldn't be in the vote.
 
Haven't watched this non event for about 5 years.
It used to be a great show, funny interviews , comedy clips and a comprehensive coverage of sport for that year.
Now it's a sterile PC fest with candidates that the BBC throw at you.

It's a shame as it used to be brilliant.😕
 
Haven’t watched this for a long long time...no interest whatsoever...as said if it is a public vote why have a short list of their choice.
Crap programme...end of.

Even prior to the nomination of candidates, the BBC coverage influenced the public vote.
 
The whole SPOTY thing is a bit pointless and meaningless in my opinion, we don't even have agreement on what constitutes the 'personality of the year' and I don't particularly go for the huge glitzty arena format personally (ie it gets on my tits) but I'm not going to hate the Beeb for it, or defund it by opting out of the licence fee. I'll just not watch it! Quite a bit of stuff I do watch on the BBC channels.
 
I find it hypocritical of the BBC to big up their sports personnality award when they've walked away from nearly every sport. True, they get outbid for football rights and, as a public service broadcaster we shouldn't expect them to bid on a par with the big commercial players. However, they could competitively bid for one day cricket and the County Championship, the Heineken Cup, some horse racing and some boxing, major athletic meets.
 
One thing's for sure. Looking at the list of past winners, having a personality isn't going to help anyone win. Give it to Tyson Fury if you want to celebrate success and personality.
 
He's probably Liverpool's most important player - ask a Liverpool fan. Lost 7-2 to Villa without him. He's a leader, they are not the same without him. Obviously you will never climb down. Ever.

Liverpool stormed the league, he deserves to be nominated. Anyone not bitter and twisted can see it really.

Voy

I wouldn't want to dismiss Henderson's leadership qualities or football skills and how both contributed to Liverpool's success but do you think that if you asked all the folk in the country who were genuinely interested in sport who they thought should win the SPOTY that many would consider Jordan Henderson.

One such person who would have done would be Henry Winter the sports journalist.

I don't think he was an the panel that made the nominations this year but when asked earlier on this year who he thought should win the SPOTY he chose Jordan Henderson, after the interviewer got back on his chair, he asked Winter how on earth he thought that was the case.

Winter then explained that Henderson had done tremendous work sending individual personal messages to Scouse folk affected by the corona virus.

Make of that what you want but I am struggling to think that many would put Jordan Henderson above every other British footballer if just considering on field performances AND footballing leadership qualities.

I have certainly got nothing against Jordan Henderson myself and appreciate his qualities and attributes that you mention but personally I feel that in putting him at the very top of the pile weakens your argument.
 
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Voy

I wouldn't want to dismiss Henderson's leadership qualities or football skills and how both contributed to Liverpool's success but do you think that if you asked all the folk in the country who were genuinely interested in sport who they thought should win the SPOTY that many would consider Jordan Henderson.

One such person who would have done would be Henry Winter the sports journalist.

I don't think he was an the panel that made the nominations this year but when asked earlier on this year who he thought should win the SPOTY he chose Jordan Henderson, after the interviewer got back on his chair, he asked Winter how on earth he thought that was the case.

Winter then explained that Henderson had done tremendous work sending individual personal messages to Scouse folk affected by the corona virus.

Make of that what you want but I am struggling to think that many would put Jordan Henderson above every other British footballer if just considering on field performances AND footballing leadership qualities.

I have certainly got nothing against Jordan Henderson myself and appreciate his qualities and attributes that you mention but personally I feel that in putting him to the top of the file weakens your ar
It's only SPOTY, the whole thing is meaningless and he is as valid as anyone else really IMO. And the antipathy towards him is childish at best. Bendit like Suddick is embarrassing. Henderson is the captain of a side that has won the Champions League and dominated the Premier League last season, and has a big influence on the team and its performances. Valued highly by those who know.
 
Haven't watched this non event for about 5 years.
It used to be a great show, funny interviews , comedy clips and a comprehensive coverage of sport for that year.
Now it's a sterile PC fest with candidates that the BBC throw at you.

It's a shame as it used to be brilliant.😕

Growing up the SPOTY was my favourite TV program of the year bar none.

Nowadays after every program I tell myself I will never watch that chite again but I always seem to have to watch it.

To be fair, even in days of old they had a 5 minute spot where they played some silly game but it's now a cringe fest all the way through.

Do the BBC really have to appeal to Love Island/IGMOH viewers, can they not just give sports fans one show a year worth watching ?
 
It's only SPOTY, the whole thing is meaningless and he is as valid as anyone else really IMO. And the antipathy towards him is childish at best. Bendit like Suddick is embarrassing. Henderson is the captain of a side that has won the Champions League and dominated the Premier League last season, and has a big influence on the team and its performances. Valued highly by those who know.

Voy

I totally agree with what you say re SPOTY.

Back on Henderson, I wouldn't call Bendit's views embarrassing but I don't think his dead parrot comments can be taken seriously.

There is little doubt that Henderson has big influence on Liverpool and their performances but that's not what is being debated, it is being questioned whether he was worthy of a nomination for the SPOTY award this year.

I'd suggest that if we are honest about things, Henderson's football skills rank higher than those of a dead parrot and that although he is influential to Liverpool, he is not worthy of a SPOTY nomination if his footballing skills and footballing leadership qualities are being considered.

If folk think that sending personal messages to those affected by Covid should improve your SPOTY chances then fair enough but personally I think those sort of things are better placed with the Pride of Britain awards.
 
Although the word "personality" is included in the award title it`s about outstanding sporting achievement not personality and always has been so they should change its title.On that basis Rashford and Burrow may deserve other awards but not this one.

It doesn`t seem to carry the weight it used to before the emergence of Sky Sports but as a sports lover and patriot I still enjoy a review of the best sporting moments of the year,especially ours.

I think as personality doesn`t come into it ,fortunately for him, Lewis Hamilton must win it this year but his Covid should keep him well away no doubt. Perhaps Ben Stokes might come under consideration ,at least in the boxing category but that wasn`t this year.
 
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Voy

I totally agree with what you say re SPOTY.

Back on Henderson, I wouldn't call Bendit's views embarrassing but I don't think his dead parrot comments can be taken seriously.

There is little doubt that Henderson has big influence on Liverpool and their performances but that's not what is being debated, it is being questioned whether he was worthy of a nomination for the SPOTY award this year.

I'd suggest that if we are honest about things, Henderson's football skills rank higher than those of a dead parrot and that although he is influential to Liverpool, he is not worthy of a SPOTY nomination if his footballing skills and footballing leadership qualities are being considered.

If folk think that sending personal messages to those affected by Covid should improve your SPOTY chances then fair enough but personally I think those sort of things are better placed with the Pride of Britain awards.
What makes someone worthy of a nomination for a meaningless award that has personality in the title but is never won by the biggest personalities etc? It's not even worth discussing really. He's as valid as anyone else. It's purely an opinion based affair. Why would Lewis Hamilton get a nomination? Drives round in circles and dull as dishwater. Tyson Fury? Good at fighting, so what, and has expressed some objectionable views IMO. Not in the opinion of others. It's impossible to compare people in this context. It's just a jamboree.
 
Don't forget, It's 'Sports PERSONALITY of the year'.
Not necessarily the best scorer, try scorer, tennis winner etc. etc.
That makes it Marcus Rashford easily. He's stood out in these difficult times.
P.S. I do not like The Manure.
 
It will be a travesty if it isnt Hamilton.

...or as Chissy would say, Harrison.

The other year, Hamilton rocked up in Glasgow for the awards night with his dog.

If he turns up with his dog this year, I'd follow Wimbledon's lead - there's one for Plumbs - and refuse him entry.
 
Rashford has been one of the better footballers in his spare time😂😂

Wiz

I think that there is little doubt that Rashford is a very talented footballer but I hope you are not suggesting that his football contribution over the year would have him him anywhere near the top of British football let alone British sport.

As I've already said, I've got no problem with considered for the Pride of Britain awards, I am not sure that holding strong views on how tax revenues should be distributed should put you at the top of the list for those awards either but I couldn't give a feck.
 
Wiz

I think that there is little doubt that Rashford is a very talented footballer but I hope you are not suggesting that his football contribution over the year would have him him anywhere near the top of British football let alone British sport.

As I've already said, I've got no problem with considered for the Pride of Britain awards, I am not sure that holding strong views on how tax revenues should be distributed should put you at the top of the list for those awards either but I couldn't give a feck.
Rashford has done things other than hold views on tax revenues. And he was inspired by me, so he should win something. And I should get an award too.
 
Bendit like Suddick is embarrassing
Why because I have an opinion that doesn't concur with yours.

We can wait and see if the general public agree with you or my opinion and determine who is 'embarrassing'.

For me SEASIDE2020 succinctly highlighted the misguided choice in a well reasoned post.

How on earth would Henderson deserve the accolade over Lewis Hamilton who officially is the greatest F! driver ever? He's not even the best midfielder in the Liverpool side.
 
Opinions, we all have them.... etc etc etc

With these awards, the term "personality" isn't the most appropriate simply because people then misunderstand the word to be a noun describing a person with some sort of "sparkling" personality, when it is being used as a noun, that any dictionary explains, simply means, "a celebrity or famous person".

Perhaps they should just call it Sports Person Of The Year but that in itself could encompass anyone of course, even someone playing sunday league football. :) Or just stop all the back slapping and cancel the whole thing.

As for Rashford, as others have pointed out his main achievements have been away from sport this year, and no doubt he will get some award for that at some point from whatever other awards there are.
 
Why because I have an opinion that doesn't concur with yours.

We can wait and see if the general public agree with you or my opinion and determine who is 'embarrassing'.

For me SEASIDE2020 succinctly highlighted the misguided choice in a well reasoned post.

How on earth would Henderson deserve the accolade over Lewis Hamilton who officially is the greatest F! driver ever? He's not even the best midfielder in the Liverpool side.
How will the vote prove anything, I never said he would win SPOTY.

Sitting in the fastest car in a group of car with your feet pushing pedals isn't really sport, you might argue. It's all about perceptions and opinions.
 
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