Stanley Park Golf course / 150 lodges

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Stanleyparkseasider

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Firstly, before anyone has a go at me for posting this on the football thread, instead of another page, I apologise but think it needs a wider audience.
Blackpool council have provisionally decided to sell off 9 holes of Stanley Park Gold course and build upon it 150 lodges and an activity centre.
Those of us who live around this area, already know how busy it is, and is a major challenge for Ambulances trying to get to the hospital.
With now losing 9 holes, and therefore having more traffic, it’s going to become very dangerous.
Also, the council are not respecting the views of locals, but yet again focusing on the tourist market instead.
A petition has been set up, and I would ask anyone who is interested in this situation to please sign it and pass it on. The more names we get, then maybe the council will take note.
Thanks in advance

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It's been discussed a lot on here, the plans are terrible regardless of selling off the golf or not, the entrance is going to be at the top of Woodside Dr with no provision for traffic coming out on to an already choked East Park Dr.

I've also got concerns about drainage, that area is virtually under water all winter so where is all that going to end up ?
 
It is a disgrace and a shame the council wont maintain it to a reasonable standard. So if the council says no more investment in the golf course what are the options. Do they inrease membership and bring in another company to run and maintain course. Is there a plan.
 
todayistheday said:
It is a disgrace and a shame the council wont maintain it to a reasonable standard. So if the council says no more investment in the golf course what are the options. Do they inrease membership and bring in another company to run and maintain course. Is there a plan.
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Its a good point!
 
As an avid golfer this is so frustrating not only because of the reasons everyone has listed but many young kids and teenagers parents cannot afford to pay for their kids to play golf at other clubs it’s affordable for parents to pay for junior memberships at the park and gets youngsters into a game that teaches very good values. What shame it would be to lose a course that so many people started off playing the game on the fylde coast.
 
Rock and Roll Star said:
The main concern is losing open green space. There is precious little in Blackpool. This must not be allowed to happen…
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The lodges go on the hospital side yes not the Park bit. So all people can do now is walk around that golf course anyway, unless you're golfing on it, you go round it, which will still be available.

So I don't see it as a huge loss of an area, I've never been on there, I imagine many have never been there.

If anything if it was done it looked fairly good and people might actually have a look. It'll still be a green space.

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The site will be open to the public to walk round too, not just golfers.

So I'm not really seeing the argument of the loss of space....

Traffic etc is a concern though.
 
JJpool said:
The lodges go on the hospital side yes not the Park bit. So all people can do now is walk around that golf course anyway, unless you're golfing on it, you go round it, which will still be available.

So I don't see it as a huge loss of an area, I've never been on there, I imagine many have never been there.

If anything if it was done it looked fairly good and people might actually have a look. It'll still be a green space.

Adrenalin-World-45m-Development-at-Stanley-Park-scaled.jpg


The site will be open to the public to walk round too, not just golfers.

So I'm not really seeing the argument of the loss of space....

Traffic etc is a concern though.
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It’s a ** disgrace End of argument
 
TonyEllisTopBins said:
It’s a ** disgrace End of argument
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It's not the end of an argument just because you say so, it's land no one outside golfers ever uses. You can go round it still.

I'm not crazy for the idea but it looks nice on the pics and people would actually then walk there who don't now.

Ultimately this is what happens when a town has such small boundaries, the green space gets built on too much, but it would still be green space.
 
JJpool said:
The lodges go on the hospital side yes not the Park bit. So all people can do now is walk around that golf course anyway, unless you're golfing on it, you go round it, which will still be available.

So I don't see it as a huge loss of an area, I've never been on there, I imagine many have never been there.

If anything if it was done it looked fairly good and people might actually have a look. It'll still be a green space.

Adrenalin-World-45m-Development-at-Stanley-Park-scaled.jpg


The site will be open to the public to walk round too, not just golfers.

So I'm not really seeing the argument of the loss of space....

Traffic etc is a concern though.
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It’s replacing a publicly owned green space with a private company’s holiday homes. It benefits no one but the private company.
 
JJpool said:
It's not the end of an argument just because you say so, it's land no one outside golfers ever uses. You can go round it still.

I'm not crazy for the idea but it looks nice on the pics and people would actually then walk there who don't now.

Ultimately this is what happens when a town has such small boundaries, the green space gets built on too much, but it would still be green space.
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If we lose a piece of fylde coast heritage it’s a disgrace.
 
pinkseats said:
It’s replacing a publicly owned green space with a private company’s holiday homes. It benefits no one but the private company.
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Well I bet the majority have never been on it as its a golf course.

All I'm pointing out is it looks nice on the plans and people would then actually use it as a space.

Looks more of a park people can walk through on the plans than now.
 
Northstandsinger said:
As an avid golfer this is so frustrating not only because of the reasons everyone has listed but many young kids and teenagers parents cannot afford to pay for their kids to play golf at other clubs it’s affordable for parents to pay for junior memberships at the park and gets youngsters into a game that teaches very good values. What shame it would be to lose a course that so many people started off playing the game on the fylde coast.
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Golf is just for the rich & they don’t want just anybody to get a chance to play.
 
Northstandsinger said:
If we lose a piece of fylde coast heritage it’s a disgrace.
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Is there any other green space where Blackpool can build this sort of attraction? It barely has any. An attraction benefits the town.

Fair enough about heritage but no one outside golfers seem to go there.

Can be outside Blackpool but then the council doesn't benefit and money goes to Fylde to be spend in PR postcodes.
 
JJpool said:
Is there any other green space where Blackpool can build this sort of attraction? It barely has any. An attraction benefits the town.

Fair enough about heritage but no one outside golfers seem to go there.

Can be outside Blackpool but then the council doesn't benefit and money goes to Fylde to be spend in PR postcodes.
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smack in the face to fylde coast residents, doesn't shock me one bit.
 
JJpool said:
Is there any other green space where Blackpool can build this sort of attraction? It barely has any. An attraction benefits the town.

Fair enough about heritage but no one outside golfers seem to go there.

Can be outside Blackpool but then the council doesn't benefit and money goes to Fylde to be spend in PR postcodes.
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Are there not enough attractions in this town already?
I've never met anyone who's been to the Gold Coast and complained that there's nothing to do.

There are very few things left in this town that are predominantly for locals anymore.

There are government guidelines that state how much of an area should have green and blue space and Blackpool are already woefully below that.

As usual, the council are looking at making a quick buck with no thought to the future.

There are many other things I could add to this thread but as we've got solicitors working on the situation I cannot.

Remember that local elections are coming soon. Your vote could well count whether the decimation of green space in Blackpool continues or not.
 
Northstandsinger said:
smack in the face to fylde coast residents, doesn't shock me one bit.
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But how many of the town go there now, probably minimal %

Now if they said we will turn it into a usable parkland, still public owned, what would people say then? As that would benefit all.

The only difference is its private but they've said they'll keep it open to the public so more can actually use the space.

Blackpool is a small boundary and has 3 golf large courses in it, another one is right next door to this proposed site.
 
Wizzerboy said:
Are there not enough attractions in this town already?
I've never met anyone who's been to the Gold Coast and complained that there's nothing to do.

There are very few things left in this town that are predominantly for locals anymore.

There are government guidelines that state how much of an area should have green and blue space and Blackpool are already woefully below that.

As usual, the council are looking at making a quick buck with no thought to the future.

There are many other things I could add to this thread but as we've got solicitors working on the situation I cannot.

Remember that local elections are coming soon. Your vote could well count whether the decimation of green space in Blackpool continues or not.
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The more you add for year round visitors the more will come and help the town grow and boom again. This is a completely different type of attraction to what is there, only found in the countryside usually.

It would be a good addition but whether the location is right or not IDK, but where else is there, not much else.

The site is barely ventured on by most locals.

Thats why it would remain a green space, open to the public.

This is what was said.

"He said: “The consultation is about collating the concerns and feedback people have given. The biggest concern we are hearing is about losing open space, but we maintain we are opening up this space which at the moment is only used by dog walkers and primarily golfers.

“One issue is the poor drainage on the land which makes it unusable in winter, and it was even unusable in August last year. Our stakeholders are supportive of the fact it will be opened up and more usable in the future. We are making it very clear how this benefits residents and it will be fed back to the design teams, that that needs to be at the forefront. We have to make sure we can demonstrate in a big way what the benefits for residents will be.”

Mr Simmonds said these benefits would include access to the nine-hole golf course which would be aimed at introducing children to the sport.

The family activity entertainment centre, previously branded Adrenalin World, would offer more than 20 indoor and outdoor activities including zip-wires, go-karting, themed mini-golf, wall climbing and virtual reality rooms, and be aimed at local families.

Drainage would be improved, and footpaths and cycleways would be laid out across the site to make it more accessible."
 
AlternativeSeaside said:
I also grew up playing on this course and would be extremely disappointed if it was cut in half despite not living in Blackpool for over twenty years!
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Extreme or at least disappointment from those who moved from away Blackpool many years ago (sigh)...how about pointing fingers at those who don't play the "9 holes" or play the course at all??
Hardly anyone crosses that road between 7am - 6pm for fear for their lives carrying clubs etc no matter how fondly the feelings are for the club
As a Blackpool rate payer it's a thumbs up emoji from me to develop area
 
This proposed development is an absolute disgrace!! One of the best golf courses on the Fylde Coast, certainly one of the most affordable, especially in the current climate and it is an Alistair McKenzie course which should ensure it has special protection! Find another site!! 😡
 
JJpool said:
But how many of the town go there now, probably minimal %

Now if they said we will turn it into a usable parkland, still public owned, what would people say then? As that would benefit all.

The only difference is its private but they've said they'll keep it open to the public so more can actually use the space.

Blackpool is a small boundary and has 3 golf large courses in it, another one is right next door to this proposed site.
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JJ

I can't play golf but I still feel for the golfers and I'd hate to see the Park close/go 9 holes.

As somebody mentioned above, a lot of youngsters start playing golf at the Park.

Do we want kids exercising and bonding outdoors or do we went them all sat down all day long doing nothing but checking their phones.

I'm happy to walk round the park if I want a walk, I don't need to go through the golf course or whatever extra it is that you are telling us about.
 
JJpool said:
Well I bet the majority have never been on it as its a golf course.

All I'm pointing out is it looks nice on the plans and people would then actually use it as a space.

Looks more of a park people can walk through on the plans than now.
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Seems you're on your own....the traffic is a nightmare too btw and add to that the rumour that the directors of the company who will be doing the development are not exactly brilliant at book keeping 🤔🤔 it's just another Blackpool council F up....they need to sort Tyldesley Road out first, another f up not finished, or the new skate park not completed or the grass (what little there is amongst the weeds) on the promenade.
 
JJpool said:
The more you add for year round visitors the more will come and help the town grow and boom again. This is a completely different type of attraction to what is there, only found in the countryside usually.

It would be a good addition but whether the location is right or not IDK, but where else is there, not much else.

The site is barely ventured on by most locals.

Thats why it would remain a green space, open to the public.

This is what was said.

"He said: “The consultation is about collating the concerns and feedback people have given. The biggest concern we are hearing is about losing open space, but we maintain we are opening up this space which at the moment is only used by dog walkers and primarily golfers.

“One issue is the poor drainage on the land which makes it unusable in winter, and it was even unusable in August last year. Our stakeholders are supportive of the fact it will be opened up and more usable in the future. We are making it very clear how this benefits residents and it will be fed back to the design teams, that that needs to be at the forefront. We have to make sure we can demonstrate in a big way what the benefits for residents will be.”

Mr Simmonds said these benefits would include access to the nine-hole golf course which would be aimed at introducing children to the sport.

The family activity entertainment centre, previously branded Adrenalin World, would offer more than 20 indoor and outdoor activities including zip-wires, go-karting, themed mini-golf, wall climbing and virtual reality rooms, and be aimed at local families.

Drainage would be improved, and footpaths and cycleways would be laid out across the site to make it more accessible."
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Most people in Blackpool don’t go to Bloomfield road on a Saturday shall we fuck the club off and open a horse racing track there that will get more visitors from out of town ?
 
Northstandsinger said:
Most people in Blackpool don’t go to Bloomfield road on a Saturday shall we fuck the club off and open a horse racing track there that will get more visitors from out of town ?
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10000 home fans that attracts visitors to the town every game V 500? Golfers.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
JJ

I can't play golf but I still feel for the golfers and I'd hate to see the Park close/go 9 holes.

As somebody mentioned above, a lot of youngsters start playing golf at the Park.

Do we want kids exercising and bonding outdoors or do we went them all sat down all day long doing nothing but checking their phones.

I'm happy to walk round the park if I want a walk, I don't need to go through the golf course or whatever extra it is that you are telling us about.
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Blackpool, a samll area with land a premium has 3 golf courses in its boundary, plus a tee time driving range. Golf is an activity some like but many don't and yet it takes up a lot of room in a limited area.

They are keeping the 9 hole course and have specifically said they will target kids to get them involved, no kid instantly does 18 holes, you start small.

Its just some weird arguments about loss of space that only the few use, most barely go near that side of the course as it's for golfers. Last time I was there was as a kid sledging down the hill next to the hospital, so not even round to the other bit.

People will still be able to walk through it round it and it'll be better with proper paths, more trees etc and for more people. It actually opens up the space to far more.

2 full size golf courses within Blackpool is enough surely, there's one right next to the site plus the 9 holes they're keeping, a better space that benefits far more people and brings another load of activities to the town seems better to me.

People seem upset about losing green space in the town, which is shit, but thats not what's happening here, it's not being lost, just changed.
 
Hazi said:
10000 home fans that attracts visitors to the town every game V 500? Golfers.
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500 members + all the visitors that come to the course and the tip up on the day players.
Since covid the numbers have risen dramatically in numbers playing at Stanley Park
 
Ginge said:
Seems you're on your own....the traffic is a nightmare too btw and add to that the rumour that the directors of the company who will be doing the development are not exactly brilliant at book keeping 🤔🤔 it's just another Blackpool council F up....they need to sort Tyldesley Road out first, another f up not finished, or the new skate park not completed or the grass (what little there is amongst the weeds) on the promenade.
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No, the mighty said he was fine with it above. Seems its mainly upset golfers.

I've said I'm not that bothered about the idea and traffic is a concern.

But I can see the benefits of a space the vast majority of the town won't be using.

A space being converted into better green space to walk through, just not for golf.

The attraction would be good for Blackpools all year round tourism they they want to grow, with the Blackpool Central project doing that too.

If it could go elsewhere then fine, doesn't bother me, am just not that sentimental about a side of a golf course thats only even seen by golfers and dog walkers.
 
I'm no golf fan or player, nor do I live in the town but.

The golf course is an asset of community value, owned by the town for the people of the town who want/choose to use it.

Selling it will end that relationship.

It will also set the precedence of building on it; if that happens, it won't be too long until the scheme is no longer viable because of the cost of living crisis and materials going up, and then a small proportion will be set aside for 'executive homes' and then a larger piece and so on.

It happens all the time in planning, change of use from golf to houses isn't going to happen, put a step in which allows building, and then it's from one type of building to another type of building which is far easier to do.

Incremental planning creep.
 
Northstandsinger said:
Most people in Blackpool don’t go to Bloomfield road on a Saturday shall we fuck the club off and open a horse racing track there that will get more visitors from out of town ?
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Silly comparison. There's 2 full size other golf courses in Blackpool alone (nevermind even more in fylde etc) where space is an absolute premium. No one else but only golfers enjoy this green space and it takes up a lot.

Plus they are keeping half of the other one.

Doesn't matter what I think seems they are doing it, I just think it looks nice on the renders and opens the space up to more people. Thats the only reason I got involved in this thread as someone said were losing green space, its not being lost.
 
JJpool said:
2 full size golf courses within Blackpool is enough surely, there's one right next to the site plus the 9 holes they're keeping, a better space that benefits far more people and brings another load of activities to the town seems better to me.
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Yep 2 full size golf courses that charge extortionate prices for membership fees!🤦🏻‍♂️

Blackpool Park is a municipal golf course for EVERYONE.
Visitors and locals alike.
If you live in Blackpool you're not going to stay in a log cabin 2 miles from your house.
Another piece of the Blackpool silverware frittered away for peanuts with no certain planning from a company who runs their business from a PO box!!😁
Let's not forget it'll create loads of highly paid jobs where the majority of the money is siphoned OUT of Blackpool.

Blackpool Park propped up both the sandcastle and the zoo when they were both council run + many other ventures.
It's only down to the fact that the council can't run a bath properly that both zoo and sandcastle were sold off and that the golf course ran into the disrepair that we are slowly trying to repair.
 
JJpool said:
Silly comparison. There's 2 full size other golf courses in Blackpool alone (nevermind even more in fylde etc) where space is an absolute premium. No one else but only golfers enjoy this green space and it takes up a lot.

Plus they are keeping half of the other one.

Doesn't matter what I think seems they are doing it, I just think it looks nice on the renders and opens the space up to more people. Thats the only reason I got involved in this thread as someone said were losing green space, its not being lost.
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Basically you’re saying you’re not a golfer so you’re not arsed what happens to it.
 
Wizzerboy said:
Yep 2 full size golf courses that charge extortionate prices for membership fees!🤦🏻‍♂️

Blackpool Park is a municipal golf course for EVERYONE.
Visitors and locals alike.
If you live in Blackpool you're not going to stay in a log cabin 2 miles from your house.
Another piece of the Blackpool silverware frittered away for peanuts with no certain planning from a company who runs their business from a PO box!!😁
Let's not forget it'll create loads of highly paid jobs where the majority of the money is siphoned OUT of Blackpool.

Blackpool Park propped up both the sandcastle and the zoo when they were both council run + many other ventures.
It's only down to the fact that the council can't run a bath properly that both zoo and sandcastle were sold off and that the golf course ran into the disrepair that we are slowly trying to repair.
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Yes and 9 holes still available and didn't they say they'd improve them...

No but you might enjoy the space and do some of these..."would offer more than 20 indoor and outdoor activities including zip-wires, go-karting, themed mini-golf, wall climbing and virtual reality rooms, and be aimed at local families."

Jobs are jobs and more visitors is better for the town.

Like I said if there was another location for this go with it, but there isn't really, there's a few green areas on the edges, same as we highlighted for the training ground.
 
Northstandsinger said:
Basically you’re saying you’re not a golfer so you’re not arsed what happens to it.
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I'd be more bothered if the green space was disappearing completely.

It's an inevitable consequence of a small town boundary, green spaces sadly go. It's a loss of half of that course and opens it up to more people, largely keeping the green space.

Ideally it would happily be placed outside Blackpool, but the council won't want that as it doesn't benefit them as much.

Blackpools town boundary should follow the fy postcode boundary imo as its completely outgrown the area.
 
Blackpool has the lowest area of green space in the country. That's enough reason to keep what we have.

What's more the supporters won't be so blasé when their ambulance is stuck in traffic on the way to the Vic.
 
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