Structured Dialogue meeting extra time and ideas

koudo

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After the recent meeting I stayed behind to talk to the social media guy(Harry) about the banning of a certain individual from their social media platforms for comments made and to see if I could mediate somehow but ended up speaking to the CEO, club secretary and Marketing with some ideas and thoughts. Apologies I've only just got around to posting this but I thought I would share some of the conversations and to seek a bit of feedback.

The SD meetings I've took part in previously have been a bit pointless with previous directors just not listening or taking ideas seriously, not SS as he turned up at the meetings I wasn't present at. During these meetings it is very hard to get a word in edgeways as you had people like BM just waffling on for over half the meeting, also because the meetings became so infrequent everyone would be shouting stuff out and trying to get their opinions across. So with the open forums being proposed as well as private meetings with supporters groups I think this will be much more beneficial to fans and the club going forward.

Firstly I suggested the idea of giving the fanbase a target of ST sales to hit and if we hit that target we get a wow price, I think I mentioned £200 as a throw away figure but we must hit 10,000 ST sales and if we didn't we pay the usual price. Club sec seemed to like the idea and then explained it to Julian Winter, the idea being it creates a buzz, gets the supporters groups working together hammering their social media platforms to achieve the target and is a great way to win back the fanbase. Julian seemed to like the idea as he was the CEO at Huddersfield when they did this, they set out to hit 10,000 but had to set a new target of 15,000 which they hit. On the back of this it created an amazing buzz across the town and they were promoted on the back of it. I said I hated to admit it but the Nobbers have done the same and now average 16,700 with a few 20,000+ crowds on the back of this their average away following went up to 2,000+ and they are currently knocking on the door of the play offs. Ok so Dungdale is like a morgue but imagine what BR would be like if we had those kind of sales with fans also being in the North part of the east stand and the other stands being full, the place would be bouncing. I'm not saying the club would go with the idea but he had a big grin on his face and admitted it was something to consider.

I asked if we bring all the hoteliers into the Matthews lounge, wine them dine them and see if we can get them to push sales with tourists. This was something that was suggested a few years ago to the interim board and bizarrely the Police said they'd block it because they should be classed as away fans. The club Sec said it could be a conflict of interest because we have a Hotel, I asked if that was always fully booked and the reply was no so I could see why they might not run with that idea. It wasn't until the next day I wondered if something could be done with all of the landlords/landladies across the Fylde. Could we donate some memorabilia and get the pubs to promote the club more on their digital screens, in return that pub gets a free match once a season perhaps? Let's be honest other than the Armfield Club there's still far too many pubs within 2 miles of the ground that don't have anything BFC related in them which has always pissed me off.

The summer concerts, it was briefly mentioned in the meeting but not really discussed properly. I mentioned about Bolton having concerts even in mid June and still getting a new pitch sorted in time for August but apparently that's because there's is 50% synthetic and there is an eye watering cost to getting what they currently have. I told them Oystons PI and old bodyguard both admitted £1m was made from those concerts and they weren't even sold out. It is something they have been discussing and exploring with Cuffe and Taylor but we would have to have ours in mid to late May so we have time to relay the pitch. For me it would make sense to have them over a weekend and if we have to play our friendlies away from home so be it, like the MSG suggested have a tour away in Portugal or somewhere nice. Financially it could add £1.5m to the clubs turnover which could strengthen the budget for bringing in players. It just seems daft not to utilise that stadium to it's full potential, no matter who performed at BR it would sell out. The old board just mocked this idea and started taking the piss out of each others music tastes.

I mentioned about sponsored fb posts around selling tickets and in particular ST sales so it's something they'd consider in the future, at the moment they don't see a great return(they monitor clicks to sales ratios) when they have done sponsored posts. Obviously you can't monitor a sale on the back of seeing one of their posts when they just nip into the ticket office a few days later for example. You only need to sell 1 ticket to make your money back on a sponsored post so for me it's a no brainer as the sponsored post get's a much bigger reach and they recognise just how bad FB has now become for posting organically. I got the impression marketing/social media are very analytical with all the data they receive and were very passionate about their roles and promoting the club. For them to give up 20-30 mins of their time after a SD meeting was very decent of them so I must thank them for that. All of them agreed communication had not been good enough and will improve over time.
 
After the recent meeting I stayed behind to talk to the social media guy(Harry) about the banning of a certain individual from their social media platforms for comments made and to see if I could mediate somehow but ended up speaking to the CEO, club secretary and Marketing with some ideas and thoughts. Apologies I've only just got around to posting this but I thought I would share some of the conversations and to seek a bit of feedback.

The SD meetings I've took part in previously have been a bit pointless with previous directors just not listening or taking ideas seriously, not SS as he turned up at the meetings I wasn't present at. During these meetings it is very hard to get a word in edgeways as you had people like BM just waffling on for over half the meeting, also because the meetings became so infrequent everyone would be shouting stuff out and trying to get their opinions across. So with the open forums being proposed as well as private meetings with supporters groups I think this will be much more beneficial to fans and the club going forward.

Firstly I suggested the idea of giving the fanbase a target of ST sales to hit and if we hit that target we get a wow price, I think I mentioned £200 as a throw away figure but we must hit 10,000 ST sales and if we didn't we pay the usual price. Club sec seemed to like the idea and then explained it to Julian Winter, the idea being it creates a buzz, gets the supporters groups working together hammering their social media platforms to achieve the target and is a great way to win back the fanbase. Julian seemed to like the idea as he was the CEO at Huddersfield when they did this, they set out to hit 10,000 but had to set a new target of 15,000 which they hit. On the back of this it created an amazing buzz across the town and they were promoted on the back of it. I said I hated to admit it but the Nobbers have done the same and now average 16,700 with a few 20,000+ crowds on the back of this their average away following went up to 2,000+ and they are currently knocking on the door of the play offs. Ok so Dungdale is like a morgue but imagine what BR would be like if we had those kind of sales with fans also being in the North part of the east stand and the other stands being full, the place would be bouncing. I'm not saying the club would go with the idea but he had a big grin on his face and admitted it was something to consider.

I asked if we bring all the hoteliers into the Matthews lounge, wine them dine them and see if we can get them to push sales with tourists. This was something that was suggested a few years ago to the interim board and bizarrely the Police said they'd block it because they should be classed as away fans. The club Sec said it could be a conflict of interest because we have a Hotel, I asked if that was always fully booked and the reply was no so I could see why they might not run with that idea. It wasn't until the next day I wondered if something could be done with all of the landlords/landladies across the Fylde. Could we donate some memorabilia and get the pubs to promote the club more on their digital screens, in return that pub gets a free match once a season perhaps? Let's be honest other than the Armfield Club there's still far too many pubs within 2 miles of the ground that don't have anything BFC related in them which has always pissed me off.

The summer concerts, it was briefly mentioned in the meeting but not really discussed properly. I mentioned about Bolton having concerts even in mid June and still getting a new pitch sorted in time for August but apparently that's because there's is 50% synthetic and there is an eye watering cost to getting what they currently have. I told them Oystons PI and old bodyguard both admitted £1m was made from those concerts and they weren't even sold out. It is something they have been discussing and exploring with Cuffe and Taylor but we would have to have ours in mid to late May so we have time to relay the pitch. For me it would make sense to have them over a weekend and if we have to play our friendlies away from home so be it, like the MSG suggested have a tour away in Portugal or somewhere nice. Financially it could add £1.5m to the clubs turnover which could strengthen the budget for bringing in players. It just seems daft not to utilise that stadium to it's full potential, no matter who performed at BR it would sell out. The old board just mocked this idea and started taking the piss out of each others music tastes.

I mentioned about sponsored fb posts around selling tickets and in particular ST sales so it's something they'd consider in the future, at the moment they don't see a great return(they monitor clicks to sales ratios) when they have done sponsored posts. Obviously you can't monitor a sale on the back of seeing one of their posts when they just nip into the ticket office a few days later for example. You only need to sell 1 ticket to make your money back on a sponsored post so for me it's a no brainer as the sponsored post get's a much bigger reach and they recognise just how bad FB has now become for posting organically. I got the impression marketing/social media are very analytical with all the data they receive and were very passionate about their roles and promoting the club. For them to give up 20-30 mins of their time after a SD meeting was very decent of them so I must thank them for that. All of them agreed communication had not been good enough and will improve over time.
Thanks for the heads up on this, obviously this post got lost in the drama yesterday, but is very important.

That's great news that you've suggested that to them and they’ve been receptive, tbh it's been suggested on here many times by me and others and if the club do read the site they should be taking things like this on board anyway. Or coming up with it themselves.

Tbf to Mr Winter he's only just arrived and it's very interesting to know he was at Huddersfield when they did the cheap ST thing. What exactly did they do though? Was it just a cheap price or was it the hit X amount then it's a cheap price, as they are different, but both welcome. I seem to recall a very cheap price there.

The best is probably the cheaper price as people are in then, guaranteed from day 1. If some don't have faith we'll hit the target they may not get on board although I'd still love to see it and yes the community then hammers social media etc and gets friends and families to go maybe.

The nobbers did cheap ST, free kids and leaflet drops etc, they had an advert in the shopping centre, maybe elsewhere too.

So that's another way to go and if we did, again the bfc community can be utilised.

It does though depend on having something people want to watch. Critchley needs to turn it around and build something people can get behind, otherwise schemes like these won't be as effective.

Not saying he should go but if he fails with no real sign of a style, a new man, an exciting appointment, backed by a St campaign with one of the above would work wonders then. Imagine it with someone loved like Dobbie or a promising manager we've plucked from another club. Or if he does have a better finish then OK it would work with him too.

Yep the pubs one is a good idea, we have seats not being used, we can give a few away in turn for advertising etc but could do this in many areas of the town also, it's a no brainer really.

I've also mentioned deal games before, like each ST holder or maybe even ticket holders can bring 1 or 2 fans that have not been for a while or not before at all, for free or for a quid or whatever it is, the best way and details could be decided, but something like that.

Surely that's a win win. As they wouldn't have been coming anyway, it's gets them in the stadium, once in they might enjoy it and a certain % come back. It also gets them on the system for the big previous purchase history games and overcomes that issue, which is when new fans most want to attend, so the next time a big game is here they can go if they want. You've just got to get people through the door, that's the big barrier. People absolutely love a good deal or bargain, we'd have fans then encouraging friends, family and bringing people and that's got to pay off somewhat eventually.

There's other deals you could do as well.

This is really encouraging that with JW in we could potentially next ST time be getting something that allows us to try and grow and maximise our support.

I will say though that a lot of new fans won't buy a ST, which is why that deal suggestions may work, but also just a cheap deal game like we used to do but for a price that'll draw people in and to be done in a game where it's not previous purchase history.

We also need to utilise the many Blackpool social media sites and get them to promote the club, get that message out there. For such deal games or any campaign, utilise the community and we'll all do all we can to get that 1 person or spread the word.
 
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I have a hotel in the town centre and if the club allowed and distributed posters with match fixtures on I’d gladly put them up and get other hotels to do the same.
I have a large number of regular guests that come each year and I have on occasion got them tickets for the home games when they’ve not booked any other activities during their stay
They’ve gone to the club shop and bought a shirt each aswell as other merchandise and there’s never been an issue as they went supporting Blackpool fc for the day.
I would never buy tickets for fans of opposing teams only neutral fans
There is so much the club could do to get more fans on board.
I like the sound of cheap st if we sell a certain amount I think this would work
My daughter doesn’t go to many games but at say £200 I’d buy her a st then she could go whenever she wanted and let someone go in her place when she doesn’t it would still be an extra sale and merchandise
Leaflet drop I’d happily help to do this
 
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Think the idea of the cheap tickets if we reach a target is brilliant. Swear we sold 8k season tickets in the Championship, an incentive like that could convince those who didn't renew this year, those who aren't going to renew and those without season tickets to get on board.
 
A wow price for season tickets if fans hit a sales target?

Doomed if the club hires a coach and a player group with almost no wow factor.
 
I've said it before it would be really, really good to have a carnet style approach for those of us who live away from Blackpool.

I think a price point between a ST and the normal entry price for say books of 10 or 15 matches would be a winner.

I would love to make every home game, but I can't.

We will be up to about 12 home and 7 away this season, and pay full whack for every game.

It would be nice to have it recognised and it still allows us to screw the opposition fans.
 
This is what people have been wanting and asking for and something like that is what a club like Blackpool needs, after the things we've been through.

Get the stadium as full as possible and make up for the damaging years we've had.

But it is right though we do need things better on the pitch to properly take advantage of something like this. Still time for that to change and if we finish strongly or if a change was made...

This is why I wanted someone like Dobbie this season before we knew who was coming in, the fans were buzzing about him after last season.

If we had gone that sort of route with such a ST deal we'd probably have been capable of close to 10k ST in league 1.

I mean, what did well sell under NC, who split fans on his return, no deal and prices basically the same as the championship or the whole 20 quid physical card issue. 7.5k ish wasn't it...So could easily have got more with a proper buzz and a deal.
 
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Need a season ticket payment scheme that is spread over the season ,there are plenty of fans who cant afford it all in one go.
My godson is only 20 and gets paid only £4/£5 an hour at work so he hasn’t been able to afford a season ticket.
Had the club got a season ticket payment scheme I’m sure he would have got one and probs some of his mates would have too
Would love to see a monthly payment option paid 2/3 months in advance of course in case any failed to pay so the club wouldn’t lose any money
 
Regarding the concerts, don't we virtually dig the pitch up every close season, why not lob a band on the weekend before?

Don't go down the Lytham root of safe middle aged stuff either, put some acts on da kidz might actually want to see.
 
It's a no brainer
In fairness, I suspect it’s probably not quite the ‘no brainier’ it might appear to be at face value.

It creates an immediate issue in terms of the Price Point for ST’s and Matchday Tickets for a start off. (I.e. Matchday Prices would likely need to increase or ST prices would need to decrease). Otherwise there wouldn’t be a suitable price gap to create the incentive for the existing STH’s not to change to a payment plan. Then there’s the administrative aspect (which is a massive ball ache) ..
 
In fairness, I suspect it’s probably not quite the ‘no brainier’ it might appear to be at face value.

It creates an immediate issue in terms of the Price Point for ST’s and Matchday Tickets for a start off. (I.e. Matchday Prices would likely need to increase or ST prices would need to decrease). Otherwise there wouldn’t be a suitable price gap to create the incentive for the existing STH’s not to change to a payment plan. Then there’s the administrative aspect (which is a massive ball ache) ..
So how do other clubs manage it and why is it any different to any other financial payment plan arrangment?
 
As with Burnley you start it early so by the time the season starts 4-6 months is already in the bag
As Raggy has said on the pod we all all used to subscriptions and £35 pcm isn't an issue when coming up with £400 can be
 
So how do other clubs manage it and why is it any different to any other financial payment plan arrangment?
Which other Clubs are we talking about?

Have other Clubs not contracted these things out to Finance Companies ?

I mean anyone who has a half decent credit rating could probably put it on a credit card for 4-5% interest.

Managing non-payments, chasing people up, administering balances etc… It’s a right palava
 
As with Burnley you start it early so by the time the season starts 4-6 months is already in the bag
As Raggy has said on the pod we all all used to subscriptions and £35 pcm isn't an issue when coming up with £400 can be
It doesn’t matter how early you start… It’s still a ball-ache.

People will cancel, pay late etc.. Then the club has to chase them, potentially upset people by stopping access to games etc etc..

If it was all so simple then all Clubs would be doing it. It obviously isn’t, which is why you’ve probably got to have EPL resources to be able to make it work.
 
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Regarding the concerts, don't we virtually dig the pitch up every close season, why not lob a band on the weekend before?

Don't go down the Lytham root of safe middle aged stuff either, put some acts on da kidz might actually want to see.
Maybe because 'IF' we got into the play off's we need the ground mid May then the club wouldn't want a concert on the weekend 'IF' we got to Wembley?

These events take months to organize sell ticket etc,so June it is which is typical football ground concert time.
 
It doesn’t matter how early you start… It’s still a ball-ache.

People will cancel, pay late etc.. Then the club has to chase them, potentially upset people by stopping access to games etc etc..

If it was all so simple then all Clubs would be doing it. It obviously isn’t, which is why you’ve probably got to have EPL resources to be able to make it work.
I think most clubs do have a payment option in place.
 
Which other Clubs are we talking about?

Have other Clubs not contracted these things out to Finance Companies ?

I mean anyone who has a half decent credit rating could probably put it on a credit card for 4-5% interest.

Managing non-payments, chasing people up, administering balances etc… It’s a right palava
I assume there are many clubs who have financial payment arrangements for STs but with external financial Companies and as you say the overheads in managing such arrangements within a football club is prohibitive the same as online ticket sales, as we have experienced. I'm not aware of any credit card that charges 4-5% but that doesn’t mean a Finance Company couldn’t charge 8-10% in providing a service. The point is every avenue should be explored to make it easier for fans to fund their support to BFC it shouldn’t be that difficult or is it?🤷‍♂️
 
I assume there are many clubs who have financial payment arrangements for STs but with external financial Companies and as you say the overheads in managing such arrangements within a football club is prohibitive the same as online ticket sales, as we have experienced. I'm not aware of any credit card that charges 4-5% but that doesn’t mean a Finance Company couldn’t charge 8-10% in providing a service. The point is every avenue should be explored to make it easier for fans to fund their support to BFC it shouldn’t be that difficult or is it?🤷‍♂️
Pretty much every Credit Card will offer 0% finance incentives these days. Usually at a 4-5% Fee.
 
Regarding the concerts, don't we virtually dig the pitch up every close season, why not lob a band on the weekend before?

Don't go down the Lytham root of safe middle aged stuff either, put some acts on da kidz might actually want to see.
Yeah and if there over a million to be made it would be worth missing that early home pre season game and going on a tour.

That money could be huge at this level.
 
Barclaycard have a 21 month interest free on purchases.. no fees whatsoever.

But I suppose not everyone can get one..
Its what I used to do put it on an interest free card ,but like you say not everyone can get one. I suppose thats the problem with a finance scheme some people will have a poor credit rating.
 
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Pretty much every Credit Card will offer 0% finance incentives these days. Usually at a 4-5% Fee.
Thats interesting but l guess if you've got a shit credit rating it would probably dismiss a good few football fans from buying a ST under any financial plan arrangement
 
The payment plan can hopefully be looked into, however the cheap ST deal or a ST target and subsequent price reduction would lessen the impact of needing that for many anyway.
 
If tin pot gyms and other sporting clubs can do it then surely a football club can?

Good thread by the way. Great OP and some interesting posts.
That’s their ‘business model’ though and the cost is built into the fees.

Football Clubs are already operating on a Pre-Paid Full Season Ticket and Matchday Ticket system. And from a financial perspective they may not be able to offer a ‘Payment Plan’ that can compete with alternative Finance options.

From the clubs perspective they’re already selling around 10K tickets per game… The potential benefits of introducing a Payment Plan will likely be outweighed by the negatives.
 
Maybe because 'IF' we got into the play off's we need the ground mid May then the club wouldn't want a concert on the weekend 'IF' we got to Wembley?

These events take months to organize sell ticket etc,so June it is which is typical football ground concert time.
Bob on then, first weekend in June, now we just need someone under 25 to tell us what DA KIDZ listen to.
 
Bob on then, first weekend in June, now we just need someone under 25 to tell us what DA KIDZ listen to.
Remember when they had Hellfire event outside the tower, Scooter, Darren Styles etc.


Infact, this is what I chant at NC when we lose 😅

Or what about a back to the old pool by Fubar.
 
Morecambe do or did a thing where the price of season tickets reduces in stages as they hit progressive sales targets.

 
5000 @ £350 = £1.75m
7000 @ £300 = £2.1m
9000 @ £250 = £2.25m
11000 @ £200 = £2.20m

At the top end of this type of scale we reduce income on ST sales.

I think I'd buy at £200, so they'd lose the walk on revenue as well.

I suppose it is how low are they prepared to go and whether ancillary spend increases the profit.

Interesting idea though.
 
Good post Koudo with some sendible ideas.

Fans and fan groups would take great pride in seeing an increase in our ST numbers : and many would gladly assist the club without any financial incentive.

Only begs questions such as what are the clubs ST targets and why aren’t they already doing all these things ?

Hopefully action plans will be put in place as part of this Fan Engagement strategy and it is vital that it is driven by the club so fans and fan groups can support it - rather than the other way round …
 
This is what people have been wanting and asking for and something like that is what a club like Blackpool needs, after the things we've been through.

Get the stadium as full as possible and make up for the damaging years we've had.

But it is right though we do need things better on the pitch to properly take advantage of something like this. Still time for that to change and if we finish strongly or if a change was made...

This is why I wanted someone like Dobbie this season before we knew who was coming in, the fans were buzzing about him after last season.

If we had gone that sort of route with such a ST deal we'd probably have been capable of close to 10k ST in league 1.

I mean, what did well sell under NC, who split fans on his return, no deal and prices basically the same as the championship or the whole 20 quid physical card issue. 7.5k ish wasn't it...So could easily have got more with a proper buzz and a deal.
Just over 8,000.
 
Good post Koudo with some sendible ideas.

Fans and fan groups would take great pride in seeing an increase in our ST numbers : and many would gladly assist the club without any financial incentive.

Only begs questions such as what are the clubs ST targets and why aren’t they already doing all these things ?

Hopefully action plans will be put in place as part of this Fan Engagement strategy and it is vital that it is driven by the club so fans and fan groups can support it - rather than the other way round …
I would love to see some fan engagement in The commercial dept .👍
 
After the recent meeting I stayed behind to talk to the social media guy(Harry) about the banning of a certain individual from their social media platforms for comments made and to see if I could mediate somehow but ended up speaking to the CEO, club secretary and Marketing with some ideas and thoughts. Apologies I've only just got around to posting this but I thought I would share some of the conversations and to seek a bit of feedback.

The SD meetings I've took part in previously have been a bit pointless with previous directors just not listening or taking ideas seriously, not SS as he turned up at the meetings I wasn't present at. During these meetings it is very hard to get a word in edgeways as you had people like BM just waffling on for over half the meeting, also because the meetings became so infrequent everyone would be shouting stuff out and trying to get their opinions across. So with the open forums being proposed as well as private meetings with supporters groups I think this will be much more beneficial to fans and the club going forward.

Firstly I suggested the idea of giving the fanbase a target of ST sales to hit and if we hit that target we get a wow price, I think I mentioned £200 as a throw away figure but we must hit 10,000 ST sales and if we didn't we pay the usual price. Club sec seemed to like the idea and then explained it to Julian Winter, the idea being it creates a buzz, gets the supporters groups working together hammering their social media platforms to achieve the target and is a great way to win back the fanbase. Julian seemed to like the idea as he was the CEO at Huddersfield when they did this, they set out to hit 10,000 but had to set a new target of 15,000 which they hit. On the back of this it created an amazing buzz across the town and they were promoted on the back of it. I said I hated to admit it but the Nobbers have done the same and now average 16,700 with a few 20,000+ crowds on the back of this their average away following went up to 2,000+ and they are currently knocking on the door of the play offs. Ok so Dungdale is like a morgue but imagine what BR would be like if we had those kind of sales with fans also being in the North part of the east stand and the other stands being full, the place would be bouncing. I'm not saying the club would go with the idea but he had a big grin on his face and admitted it was something to consider.

I asked if we bring all the hoteliers into the Matthews lounge, wine them dine them and see if we can get them to push sales with tourists. This was something that was suggested a few years ago to the interim board and bizarrely the Police said they'd block it because they should be classed as away fans. The club Sec said it could be a conflict of interest because we have a Hotel, I asked if that was always fully booked and the reply was no so I could see why they might not run with that idea. It wasn't until the next day I wondered if something could be done with all of the landlords/landladies across the Fylde. Could we donate some memorabilia and get the pubs to promote the club more on their digital screens, in return that pub gets a free match once a season perhaps? Let's be honest other than the Armfield Club there's still far too many pubs within 2 miles of the ground that don't have anything BFC related in them which has always pissed me off.

The summer concerts, it was briefly mentioned in the meeting but not really discussed properly. I mentioned about Bolton having concerts even in mid June and still getting a new pitch sorted in time for August but apparently that's because there's is 50% synthetic and there is an eye watering cost to getting what they currently have. I told them Oystons PI and old bodyguard both admitted £1m was made from those concerts and they weren't even sold out. It is something they have been discussing and exploring with Cuffe and Taylor but we would have to have ours in mid to late May so we have time to relay the pitch. For me it would make sense to have them over a weekend and if we have to play our friendlies away from home so be it, like the MSG suggested have a tour away in Portugal or somewhere nice. Financially it could add £1.5m to the clubs turnover which could strengthen the budget for bringing in players. It just seems daft not to utilise that stadium to it's full potential, no matter who performed at BR it would sell out. The old board just mocked this idea and started taking the piss out of each others music tastes.

I mentioned about sponsored fb posts around selling tickets and in particular ST sales so it's something they'd consider in the future, at the moment they don't see a great return(they monitor clicks to sales ratios) when they have done sponsored posts. Obviously you can't monitor a sale on the back of seeing one of their posts when they just nip into the ticket office a few days later for example. You only need to sell 1 ticket to make your money back on a sponsored post so for me it's a no brainer as the sponsored post get's a much bigger reach and they recognise just how bad FB has now become for posting organically. I got the impression marketing/social media are very analytical with all the data they receive and were very passionate about their roles and promoting the club. For them to give up 20-30 mins of their time after a SD meeting was very decent of them so I must thank them for that. All of them agreed communication had not been good enough and will improve over time.
Its a great post mate

These are the things BST should be all over instead of getting their collective knickers in a twist over white papers and regulators
 
Thanks for taking the time Koudo, a very interesting read.

How does the reduced price ST thing work? We buy them for normal price then get given a part refund if sales hit target, or buy them for (say) £200 and pay the difference if they don't?
 
An incentive for reduced ticket prices doesn't even need to be paid in cash, the equivalent value in a club shop voucher would be a win win situation. Costs the club less, keeps the fans happy and the feel good factor would increase due to more people around the town wearing club colours/merchandise.
 
What was our purchase plan I dont know the details did they not get the early bird discount ? and then get charged a big percentage for the privelige of paying in instalments . ?
 
Thanks for taking the time Koudo, a very interesting read.

How does the reduced price ST thing work? We buy them for normal price then get given a part refund if sales hit target, or buy them for (say) £200 and pay the difference if they don't?
Yeah Morecombe did the latter,

Infact it's a good way to do it as then everyone is paying the lower amount only initially at least, but it feels better, of course you have to pass the target, but not like a higher amount is coming out, which would be less popular. You then get people really motivated to get past that target so the price holds.

"As per the 2021/22 season, you will initially be charged the lowest price (i.e. as if we have surpassed our highest sales targets), and only in the case that we should we fall short of any of these targets, you will be contacted by the Club to pay any remaining balance prior to the opening fixture of the 2022/23 season."

 
Some great shouts in the O/P which the club need to think long and hard about because another season in this league isn’t going to be as appealing to a number of supporters, who’ll need entancing.

Price can do that 💯
 
Some great shouts in the O/P which the club need to think long and hard about because another season in this league isn’t going to be as appealing to a number of supporters, who’ll need entancing.

Price can do that 💯
Agreed, though as said in many places and by MSG, BST and Knights, what would really help get this going is a workable pay monthly deal.
 
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