Structured Dialogue Meeting: Important Update & Invitation

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Simon Sadler plans to attend next week’s Structured Dialogue meeting. To facilitate this, the date of the meeting is being moved out by two days, to Friday 3rd March, 6.30pm to 8.30pm in the Heineken Lounge at the football club.

In addition to the delegates from the recognised supporters’ groups, it is proposed to offer some wild card admissions to fans who are not members of any fans’ group. If you would like to attend, please email your request to slo@blackpoolfc.co.uk by end of day this Friday, 24th February, along with any questions you have for the board. A random ballot may be used if the number of applicants exceeds the number of places.

Steve Rowland, SLO
 
Simon Sadler plans to attend next week’s Structured Dialogue meeting. To facilitate this, the date of the meeting is being moved out by two days, to Friday 3rd March, 6.30pm to 8.30pm in the Heineken Lounge at the football club.

In addition to the delegates from the recognised supporters’ groups, it is proposed to offer some wild card admissions to fans who are not members of any fans’ group. If you would like to attend, please email your request to slo@blackpoolfc.co.uk by end of day this Friday, 24th February, along with any questions you have for the board. A random ballot may be used if the number of applicants exceeds the number of places.

Steve Rowland, SLO
Brilliant, this should be a tasty one.

It was exactly the right time for him to do this. Good on him.
 
Simon Sadler plans to attend next week’s Structured Dialogue meeting. To facilitate this, the date of the meeting is being moved out by two days, to Friday 3rd March, 6.30pm to 8.30pm in the Heineken Lounge at the football club.

In addition to the delegates from the recognised supporters’ groups, it is proposed to offer some wild card admissions to fans who are not members of any fans’ group. If you would like to attend, please email your request to slo@blackpoolfc.co.uk by end of day this Friday, 24th February, along with any questions you have for the board. A random ballot may be used if the number of applicants exceeds the number of places.

Steve Rowland, SLO
Steve

Is there any chance of this being beamed live on TTV?
 
How about inviting Lee Charles to do a video of the night, so everyone can see what questions were asked and get a feel for the meeting.

Something along the lines of "The Warriors" when all the gangs meet up in the park....
You can have Little Phil sitting in his booster chair, showing off his Appleton tattoo, telling all the others to shut up........

I can see a BAFTA in this one.....
 
This is encouraging and a step in the right direction. Still frustrating the meeting won’t be live streamed and questions have to be submitted in advance though.
Questions in advance is to allow de-duping, sequencing in a structure and giving the board the opportunity to pull relevant info together for a best informed response. Plus there's always an element of follow-up Q&A possible.
 
Questions in advance is to allow de-duping, sequencing in a structure and giving the board the opportunity to pull relevant info together for a best informed response. Plus there's always an element of follow-up Q&A possible.
That's where, and I know you don't have any influence over it, a live stream would be better for those who can't attend (because you can't have 5000 there) rather than edited minutes afterwards. To be able to judge the mood of the room and get a better feel for the full meeting with any follow up questions. A typed-out Q&A with this board replying, or any kind of statement they issue, usually doesn't tend to end up coming across very well and like a missive to the minions.

A bit like how your message about the concession stand staff ended up.

If I could ask one question to add to your list it would be the advertisement the club put out for a full time Fan Engagement Officer in a paid role last August. Did anything ever come of it? It looked like it was going to sit above you and be the go between for the club, you and us.

 
Simon Sadler plans to attend next week’s Structured Dialogue meeting. To facilitate this, the date of the meeting is being moved out by two days, to Friday 3rd March, 6.30pm to 8.30pm in the Heineken Lounge at the football club.

In addition to the delegates from the recognised supporters’ groups, it is proposed to offer some wild card admissions to fans who are not members of any fans’ group. If you would like to attend, please email your request to slo@blackpoolfc.co.uk by end of day this Friday, 24th February, along with any questions you have for the board. A random ballot may be used if the number of applicants exceeds the number of places.

Steve Rowland, SLO
Good job I started that thread about questions for Simon. 😉
 
I’ve sent the SLO a message with a (large) number of questions and would like to attend again if possible.

Because the SDM is bound to be critiqued my many on here who lack anything constructive to say I feel I should share my proposed questions here too. It may just help some people fortunate their own or ask things they worry may get missed by others.

For the record these are my questions. Hopefully a few get looked at.

My questions are as follows;

1) Approximately 10-12 months ago I put a question to the board regarding the approach to communication. I suggested the club was largely reactive as opposed to proactive and that they had missed opportunities to make the most out of positive aspects of the clubs existence whilst also letting rumours and hearsay worsen the impact of negative aspects. I was told by the board this was not something they agreed with but that there was a professional communications, marketing and PR team in place and that they were always looking to improve. 10-12 months later and communication is worse than ever, fan engagement at a low point under SS’s tenure and this coupled with onfield disappointment will likely result in lower attendances, reduced commercial revenue and other negative outcomes. What if anything is the club doing to improve its comms, marketing and PR.

2) How does the club plan to rebuild its relationship with the supporters. It’s clear the positivity that was so infectious 12 short months ago has largely disappeared.

3) What happened to the clubs long term plan and the vision of a specific type of ‘Blackpool FC player’ that was sold to the fans when SS and BM first became involved ? Has the project NC was such a big part of completely gone out of the window ?

4) Why wait so long to remove MA when results and performances had been so poor ? Other clubs appear much more decisive.

5) Are rumours of SS’s intentions to sell the club true ?

6) Where are we in terms of recruiting a new manager and planning for next season ?

7) When NC departed the board indicated succession planning was to be improved going forward so that managers, coaches and players could depart with minimal impact. Between MA being appointed and then removed what happened to that planning ? MM is clearly not part of a long term succession plan. His own words suggest his appointment was out of the blue.

8) Where is the club at in terms of the capital investment projects ? (TG and East)

9) If the club is to be relegated will a competitive budget be in place to give us the best possible chance of an instant return ?

10) If the club survives in this division what will be done to ensure the mistakes made this season are not repeated ?

11) The sheer number of injuries suffered by BFC players seems almost unbelievable. Are new training, recruitment methods being put in place to remedy this ? Is it the current TG ?

12) When will a new manager for next season be appointed ? The sooner the better surely ?

13) Blackpool FC women at BR was a great success - we should see more of this going forward.

14) SS - please outline your long term vision. How long you intend on being at BFC, how BFC’s reliance on your money will ultimately impact the club and what your succession plan ultimately looks like ?

Many Thanks

Ryan (LA1 Seasider)
 
Are questions are screened beforehand ?
If so what are the chances of the real points most fans are thinking being allowed ?
And before we gush over the fact Simon sadler is attending lests not lose sight of the fact that he is the owner and its pretty much imperative he attends
I would be pissed off if he didn't to be honest
I would hope the meeting should be screened for transparencies sake but it appears to be impossible for that to happen for some reason.
I don't want it to be a witch hunt towards the owner by the way but there are definitely points that should be raised that might make it uncomfortable for the board
 
Waste of time and effort if you have to send questions in first
So you’d prefer they just wing it and give answers such as ‘not sure on that we’ll have to get back to you’

You realise there’s literally hundereds of club staff. Simon, Ben and Brett aren’t running it all single handedly.

It’s a complex business and there will be complex questions with complex answers. Some things will have legal ramifications if shared prematurely and there’s sensitive issues up for discussion.

I’d rather get decent answers to the big questions rather than half arsed answers
 
So you’d prefer they just wing it and give answers such as ‘not sure on that we’ll have to get back to you’

You realise there’s literally hundereds of club staff. Simon, Ben and Brett aren’t running it all single handedly.

It’s a complex business and there will be complex questions with complex answers. Some things will have legal ramifications if shared prematurely and there’s sensitive issues up for discussion.

I’d rather get decent answers to the big questions rather than half arsed answers
Actually yeah I would prefer it to be a proper fans forum with questions from the floor instead of a hand picked selection of uber fans with pre arranged questions and answers
 
Actually yeah I would prefer it to be a proper fans forum with questions from the floor instead of a hand picked selection of uber fans with pre arranged questions and answers
So I’m an Uber fan ? I’ve literally listed my questions on here. They’re no different really to what I’ve asked before either. You should maybe try engage with it - you may be surprised and get answers to what you want to know. At the very least you’ll learn the secret handshake and get your Uber fan pin badge like me.

Still though… you’re the one with private phone conversations with Brett, so maybe you’re in a class of uber fan above me ?!
 
So you have to send a question in a week
In advance.

The pre prepared answers are given out on the night but if you don’t agree with the said answer or you need more clarification you can’t because you’re not there?

Like Phil says a complete waste of time.
In ordinary circumstances l would agree it being a complete waste of time, but on this occasion with SS in attendance it takes on a different meaning IMHO in terms of the seriousness of the situation. SDMs are what they are 'structured' and should drive out the right answers to the questions, but let’s see what happens on the night.
 
How about inviting Lee Charles to do a video of the night, so everyone can see what questions were asked and get a feel for the meeting.

Something along the lines of "The Warriors" when all the gangs meet up in the park....
You can have Little Phil sitting in his booster chair, showing off his Appleton tattoo, telling all the others to shut up........

I can see a BAFTA in this one.....
And afterwards he has to get back to the Welsh Coney
 
I don’t think it can be considered a complete waste of time. It may not be the set up that would suit everyone, it’s limited in attendance and yes the questions are pre selected and answers will be prepped in advance etc

BUT if they wanted they don’t need to have any event at all (it isn’t a requirement) and also Simon Sadler need not attend if they did have a dialogue meeting BUT they are having one and he is attending.

I do think a live stream could be set up but in its absence a simple video recording made with good quality audio that any fan could watch afterwards

Nothing is ever perfect but it is something and demonstrates a desire for two way communication to some extent surely?
 
I’ve sent the SLO a message with a (large) number of questions and would like to attend again if possible.

Because the SDM is bound to be critiqued my many on here who lack anything constructive to say I feel I should share my proposed questions here too. It may just help some people fortunate their own or ask things they worry may get missed by others.

For the record these are my questions. Hopefully a few get looked at.

My questions are as follows;

1) Approximately 10-12 months ago I put a question to the board regarding the approach to communication. I suggested the club was largely reactive as opposed to proactive and that they had missed opportunities to make the most out of positive aspects of the clubs existence whilst also letting rumours and hearsay worsen the impact of negative aspects. I was told by the board this was not something they agreed with but that there was a professional communications, marketing and PR team in place and that they were always looking to improve. 10-12 months later and communication is worse than ever, fan engagement at a low point under SS’s tenure and this coupled with onfield disappointment will likely result in lower attendances, reduced commercial revenue and other negative outcomes. What if anything is the club doing to improve its comms, marketing and PR.

2) How does the club plan to rebuild its relationship with the supporters. It’s clear the positivity that was so infectious 12 short months ago has largely disappeared.

3) What happened to the clubs long term plan and the vision of a specific type of ‘Blackpool FC player’ that was sold to the fans when SS and BM first became involved ? Has the project NC was such a big part of completely gone out of the window ?

4) Why wait so long to remove MA when results and performances had been so poor ? Other clubs appear much more decisive.

5) Are rumours of SS’s intentions to sell the club true ?

6) Where are we in terms of recruiting a new manager and planning for next season ?

7) When NC departed the board indicated succession planning was to be improved going forward so that managers, coaches and players could depart with minimal impact. Between MA being appointed and then removed what happened to that planning ? MM is clearly not part of a long term succession plan. His own words suggest his appointment was out of the blue.

8) Where is the club at in terms of the capital investment projects ? (TG and East)

9) If the club is to be relegated will a competitive budget be in place to give us the best possible chance of an instant return ?

10) If the club survives in this division what will be done to ensure the mistakes made this season are not repeated ?

11) The sheer number of injuries suffered by BFC players seems almost unbelievable. Are new training, recruitment methods being put in place to remedy this ? Is it the current TG ?

12) When will a new manager for next season be appointed ? The sooner the better surely ?

13) Blackpool FC women at BR was a great success - we should see more of this going forward.

14) SS - please outline your long term vision. How long you intend on being at BFC, how BFC’s reliance on your money will ultimately impact the club and what your succession plan ultimately looks like ?

Many Thanks

Ryan (LA1 Seasider)

You've pretty much covered everything.

Just expanding on point 7.

Why was Appleton appointed in the first place. It was clear to any of us that he was deeply unpopular, would be up against it for many reasons and going against fan will never seems to work and it didn't, nor would it sell tickets.

It's likely to cost us our Championship status now, thrown away unnecessarily. He was always going to need a decent rebuild to play his brand effectively too, so knowing how hard that would be for us as a club, why didn't we go for someone similar to what we had and build into a new style gradually?

Fans needed a positive to offset the shock Critchley bad news in summer. A new bloke with no baggage or even some ex player involved in some way would have done it.

Ben assured people of the candidates we would go for who fit the club and town and would just slot into place.

We then got Appleton who no-one wanted. His personality and general demeanour doesn't fit with the passionate fanbase we have, fans like to see a manager going through what they do, to build a connection.

His appointment completely killed the mood as we countered a negative with another perceived negative. This also killed the feelgood factor and with a summer of public transfer failures, it's little wonder the atmosphere was poor from the off.

It would have been pretty easy to keep it going, no Blackpool fan, bar Sadler it seems, would have chosen Appleton. It was not the appointment to excite fans, bring everyone together and counter a negative in losing the last manager.

Also why was Mick appointed and was it even considered how he'd fit with the players we have? What we really needed was a new guy playing a similar ish way that suits our players, with a bit more steel and fans onside. That was it really.

To completely change to a massively different style that we aren't effective at, after bringing in players to suit the last guys style, looks another obvious mistake.
 
I don’t think it can be considered a complete waste of time. It may not be the set up that would suit everyone, it’s limited in attendance and yes the questions are pre selected and answers will be prepped in advance etc

BUT if they wanted they don’t need to have any event at all (it isn’t a requirement) and also Simon Sadler need not attend if they did have a dialogue meeting BUT they are having one and he is attending.

I do think a live stream could be set up but in its absence a simple video recording made with good quality audio that any fan could watch afterwards

Nothing is ever perfect but it is something and demonstrates a desire for two way communication to some extent surely?
When was it dropped as a requirement? I thought since 2017 or thereabouts the EFL were insisting that clubs complied and held at least two Structured Dialogue Meetings a year with a representative group of supporters. That's where the name and format for these meetings came from anyway.
 
Don't forget the dancing girls/boys on roller skates drinks to seats at half time request- would ease pressure on the concourses
 
I was at the one with Owen at the Hilton.

Plenty of pitchforks on that occasion. :)
 
I don't think there's an alternative to pre-prepared questions and answers but there must be an opportunity for a follow up.
TBH there are probably less than 10 key questions that need asking and @LA1 Seasider has probably nailed most of them.
I honestly don't think a free for all Q&A would work unless it was a far smaller audience.
I do understand the view of the sceptics but IMO it's not a waste of time because anything is better than the "radio silence" that we are used to.
I don't understand the reluctance to stream it though.
What I would like is the opportunity to have "one to one" informal chat with the Board over a pint or a cup of coffee. I even got that with KoKo (and minder, Matt W).
 
Actually yeah I would prefer it to be a proper fans forum with questions from the floor instead of a hand picked selection of uber fans with pre arranged questions and answers
Get yourself an invite and engage with the bit where the answers to questions are discussed……. simples 😉
 
I don't think there's an alternative to pre-prepared questions and answers but there must be an opportunity for a follow up.
TBH there are probably less than 10 key questions that need asking and @LA1 Seasider has probably nailed most of them.
I honestly don't think a free for all Q&A would work unless it was a far smaller audience.
I do understand the view of the sceptics but IMO it's not a waste of time because anything is better than the "radio silence" that we are used to.
I don't understand the reluctance to stream it though.
What I would like is the opportunity to have "one to one" informal chat with the Board over a pint or a cup of coffee. I even got that with KoKo (and minder, Matt W).
There’s always a follow up for every question 👍🏼
 
The Hilton descended into a bit of a farce l, due to one or two gobshytes in the crowd, who gave him a chance to get off the hook.

There are definitely some benefits to being ‘selective’ about who attends.
 
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