The Lack Of Atmosphere at home games

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the_stockport_one

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So who's at fault.

The Board?
For not reading the room and appointing MA and then trying to say he was the most outstanding candidate to be had.

The manager and his staff?
MA coning in talking about expansive attacking football when most of us knew that we had to be pragmatic with these players and have a bit of stardust like Bowler to win a couple of games
Then the tactics subsequently which imo have been poor or scattergun.
Injuries have played their part for sure.
Did MA have that problem at Lincoln?
MA maybe also could do with a PR consultation as to get the most out of Blackpool you need fans onside.

The Fans?
Are we too impatient?
Did we ever give MA enough time or a chance.?
One things for sure, and when our atmosphere was good then it came from our heart and we were all engaged under Critchley even when it was rubbish on the pitch.
Did the letdown from Critchley hurt us as fans more than we thought?
People saying fans should sing and create an atmosphere is barmy imo, you cannot force that, you can it needs to come from within and because you believe.
Several i have spoken to at the Birmingham game said the were bored.

The atmosphere has gone and whatever it takes to get it back needs to happen as we need it more than any other club.
WE ARE IN A DOGFIGHT, SO WHOEVER MAKES THE DECISIONS THEN PLEASE MAKE THE RIGHT ONES.

FTSO
 
The club imv have indulged the fanbase in an attempt to foster good relations. Fair play.

Now we see a little bit of turbulence and a number of the fans have gone 'missing'.

Oh Well, at least the club played along and we now know where we all stand.
 
The fans are the biggest issue and need to get over themselves.

The board and Sadler didn’t spend enough money along with selling our best player.

Appleton might not be the best manager we could have got but he’s got us some good results and performances against the best teams in the division.

We’ve got to put everything aside and support the team and the manager for as long as he is here that’s the only way we will stay up is all pulling in the same direction.
Playing against teams 5 times the size with 10 times the budget we need a way of levelling the playing field and atmosphere is the only one we can do.
 
Northstandsinger said:
The fans are the biggest issue and need to get over themselves.

The board and Sadler didn’t spend enough money along with selling our best player.

Appleton might not be the best manager we could have got but he’s got us some good results and performances against the best teams in the division.

We’ve got to put everything aside and support the team and the manager for as long as he is here that’s the only way we will stay up is all pulling in the same direction.
Playing against teams 5 times the size with 10 times the budget we need a way of levelling the playing field and atmosphere is the only one we can do.
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Hi Michael 😂
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
100% The Fans are the problem right now..
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Then they've been the problem all season as apart from Nobbers and Burnley the atmosphere has been fairly crap home and away all season.

Too late I'm afraid to bring it back unless we go on a decent run, couple of things I've noticed we are starting to lose quite a few of the younger fans for getting into scrapes I know a couple and few older types moved into the North to change the demographic of the Stand this season so it was basically all sold out with ST holders
 
poolseasider said:
Then they've been the problem all season as apart from Nobbers and Burnley the atmosphere has been fairly crap home and away all season.

Too late I'm afraid to bring it back unless we go on a decent run, couple of things I've noticed we are starting to lose quite a few of the younger fans for getting into scrapes I know a couple and few older types moved into the North to change the demographic of the Stand this season so it was basically all sold out with ST holders
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Yep, they have been the problem all season… TBH there were signs last season of how shit our fans were… The large scale walk out during the Forest home game for example…

We’re basically a bunch of fair weather / good time Charlies, who run for the hills the minute the going gets a bit tough.

We do have a very small hardcore of real genuine supporters, but in the main we are very flimsy…

This bunch of players deserve far better and the Manager needs to be given a fair crack at the whip once he’s had a chance to put together a squad that suits his playing style.
 
the_stockport_one said:
So who's at fault.

The Board?
For not reading the room and appointing MA and then trying to say he was the most outstanding candidate to be had.

The manager and his staff?
MA coning in talking about expansive attacking football when most of us knew that we had to be pragmatic with these players and have a bit of stardust like Bowler to win a couple of games
Then the tactics subsequently which imo have been poor or scattergun.
Injuries have played their part for sure.
Did MA have that problem at Lincoln?
MA maybe also could do with a PR consultation as to get the most out of Blackpool you need fans onside.

The Fans?
Are we too impatient?
Did we ever give MA enough time or a chance.?
One things for sure, and when our atmosphere was good then it came from our heart and we were all engaged under Critchley even when it was rubbish on the pitch.
Did the letdown from Critchley hurt us as fans more than we thought?
People saying fans should sing and create an atmosphere is barmy imo, you cannot force that, you can it needs to come from within and because you believe.
Several i have spoken to at the Birmingham game said the were bored.

The atmosphere has gone and whatever it takes to get it back needs to happen as we need it more than any other club.
WE ARE IN A DOGFIGHT, SO WHOEVER MAKES THE DECISIONS THEN PLEASE MAKE THE RIGHT ONES.

FTSO
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The board by appointing him and failing to land the players we need and selling our best one. There’s a key point as regards ambition to make on us actually ending up with Michael Appleton after losing Critchley.

The reaction from our fans though has been in the main pathetic. Especially since the Wigan game. Full toys out the pram.

There’s some who were at Coventry chanting “Appletons tangerine army” to singing “you’re getting sacked in the morning” just 4 matches later. Absolute wet wipes.

Sad to see, how soft and weak some are all because there’s no connection after a game and he doesn’t tell them how great they are.

Just to add I don’t think Appleton is the guy in a relegation fight but the blame lies in appointing him.
 
Bloomfield almost always silent, just the same Charlie patinio chant for 90 mins.

We used to have chants for loads of players now it's just a 19 year old loanee we definitely won't keep.

Odd
 
Let’s face it, there’s a number of reasons for the downturn in atmosphere, most have been mentioned on here, but there’s also the fact that a lot of north stand fans were young and new to the club last season and expectations were high, if we were doing well and close to the playoffs, I’m pretty sure it’d be different.
 
The board 100%. Appleton should never ever been considered for the job let alone appointed.
Anything after that which has affected the atmosphere is built upon Appleton
 
the_stockport_one said:
So who's at fault.

The Board?
For not reading the room and appointing MA and then trying to say he was the most outstanding candidate to be had.

The manager and his staff?
MA coning in talking about expansive attacking football when most of us knew that we had to be pragmatic with these players and have a bit of stardust like Bowler to win a couple of games
Then the tactics subsequently which imo have been poor or scattergun.
Injuries have played their part for sure.
Did MA have that problem at Lincoln?
MA maybe also could do with a PR consultation as to get the most out of Blackpool you need fans onside.

The Fans?
Are we too impatient?
Did we ever give MA enough time or a chance.?
One things for sure, and when our atmosphere was good then it came from our heart and we were all engaged under Critchley even when it was rubbish on the pitch.
Did the letdown from Critchley hurt us as fans more than we thought?
People saying fans should sing and create an atmosphere is barmy imo, you cannot force that, you can it needs to come from within and because you believe.
Several i have spoken to at the Birmingham game said the were bored.

The atmosphere has gone and whatever it takes to get it back needs to happen as we need it more than any other club.
WE ARE IN A DOGFIGHT, SO WHOEVER MAKES THE DECISIONS THEN PLEASE MAKE THE RIGHT ONES.

FTSO
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The problem is our fan base is full of adults who act like spoilt children and because they didn’t get the appointment they wanted, now refuse to back the team.
 
ItsGrimUpNorth said:
The problem is our fan base is full of adults who act like spoilt children and because they didn’t get the appointment they wanted, now refuse to back the team.
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It seems to me that the support we have given MA and the team early on hasn’t worked because why else are we languishing in the bottom three? Naturally motivation is going to wane. Now if we were in the top half the couldn’t be arsed would turn up and sing with the drumbeat.
 
I don't think you can blame the fans for a lack of atmosphere. I'm in the North and the plane truth is the football being served up is awful. The lack of attacking football and attempts on target in the last few home games would impact any set of supporters. Therefore the issue lies with the board and their managerial appointment. We can all argue/discuss the details of why we are not performing, and there are many differing opinions that can be put forward and supported, but I don't think the fans can be blamed. Nor do I think Appleton can be fully blamed, but unfortunately it's his team that are not performing at the moment, so he is taking most of the criticism.
 
Simple for me. The majority of fans want to see an entertaining game where we have lots of chances on goal, give it 100% and walk off the pitch without any regrets.

I get the feeling Appleton sends them out there in fear of not getting a draw!
 
Macseasider said:
Hilarious reading board loudmouths lashing out and trying to blame other fans for us being crap.

Sorry loudmouths but fans don't make much difference. It's the players and coach that get the results. 2 years ago we were promoted with no fans for most of the season.
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Fans and particularly the atmosphere at home has a massive bearing on Team and individual performances.

The ongoing attacks on the manager are undermining too and will inevitably have an impact within the camp.

‘Loudmouths’ are almost certainly the problem though or ‘Gob Shites’ as I prefer to call them and unfortunately we’ve always had more than our share…. plus, plenty of gormless sheep to go along with them…Only takes a persistent few to completely ruin our season, which it would seem they are intent on doing.
 
tangerine.com said:
It seems to me that the support we have given MA and the team early on hasn’t worked because why else are we languishing in the bottom three? Naturally motivation is going to wane. Now if we were in the top half the couldn’t be arsed would turn up and sing with the drumbeat.
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What support?

Never once has the North Stand belted out “Appletons Tangerine Army” and got behind him? Even during the good games?
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
100% The Fans are the problem right now..
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Allegedly, we had the best fans in football when we were in the Prem, yet we still went down probably due to Adam's sulking second half of the season.. The fans are not the problem, the problem is the poor results, boring football passionless manager Also we are once again given big promises by the owner that never seem to materialise (training ground etc) Blackpool fans have been here before. Saddler needs to give the fans a bone, or something to hope for. This nothingness is once again draining the life out of the club.
 
Wizaard said:
I know people who wanted us to lose yesterday so Appleton would leave.
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It was exactly the same on the AVFTT matchday thread.

From the starting line-up onwards, it was a barrage of negativity aimed at the manager.

Then we scored and the Herberts suddenly stopped posting their drivel and couldn't even post praise for the goal.
They quietly wanted Blackpool to lose, to give them more ammuntion to sack the manager

Be the 12th man on thursday.
The club need our full backing more than ever this season.

Hopefully Hoggy is there.
 
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Mr Tangerine Man said:
Allegedly, we had the best fans in football when we were in the Prem, yet we still went down probably due to Adam's sulking second half of the season.. The fans are not the problem, the problem is the poor results, boring football passionless manager Also we are once again given big promises by the owner that never seem to materialise (training ground etc) Blackpool fans have been here before. Saddler needs to give the fans a bone, or something to hope for. This nothingness is once again draining the life out of the club.
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Considering the squad and circumstances, we did exceptionally well in the Prem amd earmed enough points to stay up in almost any other seadon. So to be honest, I’m not sure what you’re on about, using such a bad example…

It’s our fans that are draining the life out of this club… You only have to read half of the depressive shit on here, Twitter & Facebook to see that…

I’ve never known a bunch like us tbh…

It’s complete self harm
 
Got to give the fans something. They’ve been living off scraps all season. No wonder the atmosphere has declined.
The Appleton appointment was a terrible misjudgement and the player recruitment abysmal.
Still just about time to rectify, if SS acts now, but not sure he can stand the cost of fixing the mistakes.
 
Good Supporters develop a sense of fun and draw upon the ‘Great Escape’ mentality when times get tough and wins are few and far between.

We just crumble and start lashing out… ‘Lashers’ couldn’t be more apt in many respects…
 
I think part of the problem is we now have expectations, whereas pre boycott during the Oyston regime we got all dizzy at getting a player in after a protracted tribunal. The old saying expectations only lead to disappointment is very true & If you expect nothing from somebody or something you are never disappointed.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Fans and particularly the atmosphere at home has a massive bearing on Team and individual performances.

The ongoing attacks on the manager are undermining too and will inevitably have an impact within the camp.

‘Loudmouths’ are almost certainly the problem though or ‘Gob Shites’ as I prefer to call them and unfortunately we’ve always had more than our share…. plus, plenty of gormless sheep to go along with them…Only takes a persistent few to completely ruin our season, which it would seem they are intent on doing.
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Fans were good yesterday, I actually came away feeling positive. Players were up for it for sure and played well. Appleton changed the team and it worked well so got to give him credit for that.
Your 100% right, if we get behind the team and Appleton on Thursday and Sunday how can that not help. To do otherwise is as you say self defeating.
 
The negativity will kill us if we are not careful.

A new manager cannot fix the problem. He loses a couple of games and the negativity returns.

Unless the negativity stops we will be playing the likes of the Cods and Forest Green Rovers next season.

We need unity not recrimination until we get to safety.

We can keep the club up if we want.

As previous poster states the negative social media gets back to the camp
 
ItsGrimUpNorth said:
What support?

Never once has the North Stand belted out “Appletons Tangerine Army” and got behind him? Even during the good games?
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Just turning up at the game is part of the support. Though I would suspect MA and other managers would have been happy to have back an empty stadium.😆
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
100% The Fans are the problem right now..
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Are they fuck. On the pitch the team is still supported so your point has little basis.

Yes it's not been the atmospheres of last season, but it's mainly online negativity.

Not always helpful and of course it helps if the fans are really passionate and chanting all the time.

But you can't magic it up, cant make deflated people just suddenly feel inspired, it comes with a connection between owner, manager, players and fans.

Whenever there's chanting in the north I'll get involved but it's pretty dead if were looking as shocking as we have at home.

We have been poor this season and with an unpopular appointment from the off who only got more unpopular when it went wrong.

It's perfectly normal what's happening with fans at a struggling club with no connection to the manager.

The fans havent meant we looked disorganised for many games, the fans don't play a part in players with little discipline getting sent off constantly, the fans don't affect the lack of quality on the pitch at times.

Yes chanting and being together can help for confidence but many aren't happy with how it's going and in football managers are changed when doing badly.

The board fucked up with the appointment and then felt the need to keep him rather than be proven wrong after not backing him well, that's the issue.

Yes some fans could get a grip and do better but if people understand football fanbases aren't hive minds and have a range of opinions and circumstances.

To go for such a choice was always going to go this way if it went wrong.

If fans are going to get more positive and be chanting with anywhere near the same level as last season there needs to be a huge improvement on the pitch at home.

Ma needs to turn the people he's lost.

We need to do our bit too and get up for thr fight, especially against big away followings, but it's hardly fans fault.
 
AngelBFC said:
The negativity will kill us if we are not careful.

A new manager cannot fix the problem. He loses a couple of games and the negativity returns.

Unless the negativity stops we will be playing the likes of the Cods and Forest Green Rovers next season.

We need unity not recrimination until we get to safety.

We can keep the club up if we want.

As previous poster states the negative social media gets back to the camp
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Why can’t a new manager fix the problem? Stupid statement
 
poolseasider said:
Then they've been the problem all season as apart from Nobbers and Burnley the atmosphere has been fairly crap home and away all season.

Too late I'm afraid to bring it back unless we go on a decent run, couple of things I've noticed we are starting to lose quite a few of the younger fans for getting into scrapes I know a couple and few older types moved into the North to change the demographic of the Stand this season so it was basically all sold out with ST holders
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Still plenty of room for walk ons in there.
 
Wizaard said:
The fans were fully behind the team yesterday and the team responded positively. More of the same needed on Thursday.
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Most away game we are, most home games too, just not been very noisy at home in a lot of it but not been on the teams back.

So it's complete rubbish fans are being overly negative in person.
 
JJpool said:
Most away game we are, most home games too, just not been very noisy at home in a lot of it but not been on the teams back.

So it's complete rubbish fans are being overly negative in person.
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It’s been loud enough for the manager to hear it.
 
the_stockport_one said:
So who's at fault.

The Board?
For not reading the room and appointing MA and then trying to say he was the most outstanding candidate to be had.

The manager and his staff?
MA coning in talking about expansive attacking football when most of us knew that we had to be pragmatic with these players and have a bit of stardust like Bowler to win a couple of games
Then the tactics subsequently which imo have been poor or scattergun.
Injuries have played their part for sure.
Did MA have that problem at Lincoln?
MA maybe also could do with a PR consultation as to get the most out of Blackpool you need fans onside.

The Fans?
Are we too impatient?
Did we ever give MA enough time or a chance.?
One things for sure, and when our atmosphere was good then it came from our heart and we were all engaged under Critchley even when it was rubbish on the pitch.
Did the letdown from Critchley hurt us as fans more than we thought?
People saying fans should sing and create an atmosphere is barmy imo, you cannot force that, you can it needs to come from within and because you believe.
Several i have spoken to at the Birmingham game said the were bored.

The atmosphere has gone and whatever it takes to get it back needs to happen as we need it more than any other club.
WE ARE IN A DOGFIGHT, SO WHOEVER MAKES THE DECISIONS THEN PLEASE MAKE THE RIGHT ONES.
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Appleton was appointed to make a silk purse out of a sows ear,similar at Lincoln and Oxford.
Hopefully if we are on the Brentford pathway the club will invest in January some of the Bowler money.
Glass half full
UPTMP
 
I think the Main reason the atmosphere has deteriorated is because it’s been sanitised which I suspected would happen. We had a spell where it was quite rowdy and the atmosphere was superb now with banning orders being issued we’ve lost the rowdy element who triggered everyone else into doing their bit. I’m not encouraging lawbreaking but nonsense like getting banned for throwing an empty plastic bottle onto the pitch, when no one is in any danger whatsoever, has left us with the wet wipe brigade. Law abiding people enjoy watching a bit of rabble rousing but we’ve killed it now.
 
Memphisboy said:
I think the Main reason the atmosphere has deteriorated is because it’s been sanitised which I suspected would happen. We had a spell where it was quite rowdy and the atmosphere was superb now with banning orders being issued we’ve lost the rowdy element who triggered everyone else into doing their bit. I’m not encouraging lawbreaking but nonsense like getting banned for throwing an empty plastic bottle onto the pitch, when no one is in any danger whatsoever, has left us with the wet wipe brigade. Law abiding people enjoy watching a bit of rabble rousing but we’ve killed it now.
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Now that is nonsense. If you can't get the atmosphere going without chucking a bottle then what's wrong with you?
 
Memphisboy said:
I think the Main reason the atmosphere has deteriorated is because it’s been sanitised which I suspected would happen. We had a spell where it was quite rowdy and the atmosphere was superb now with banning orders being issued we’ve lost the rowdy element who triggered everyone else into doing their bit. I’m not encouraging lawbreaking but nonsense like getting banned for throwing an empty plastic bottle onto the pitch, when no one is in any danger whatsoever, has left us with the wet wipe brigade. Law abiding people enjoy watching a bit of rabble rousing but we’ve killed it now.
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Well the football on offer, no connection with the manager, doing poorly etc.

It was great vs the nobbers.

But yeah that doesn't help, going ott on banning youngsters for minor offences.
 
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