The set up

bfcpete said:
So the set up was the same but works if you play with pace, movement, forward commitment and passion?
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As I've said before, it's not all the system but the intent, speed of play, ability to play a forward pass and bring others into play, 1-2's etc.

Also another key thing is the ability to run with the ball.

When play is tight you need people who can break the lines and advance, Carey is now smashing that, CJ can do it when he's on it like today, Dembele too, Coulson.
 
Also, how the opposition set's up. Barnsley came out to play and struggled to contain us. I like the combination of Carey/Coulson on the left and CJ/Dembele on the right. The introduction of Cosgrove at half-time gave them a focus and they went a bit more route 1 and they got a foothold in the game. We tired and dropped deeper and struggled with their physicality. This has been a factor in our poor away form, teams that are physical and deny us space to play.
 
Dougall said:
So Critch was right all along 🙄
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No because normally players are playing a rigid system where they are shackled in zones and rarely move out of them. CJ is often static on the right, coulson is cautious going forward, Carey ends up sitting on the left touchline, Marv becomes a focus for build up play because the holding midfielder isnt showing for the ball. The forwards patrol their zones but don't really work in tandem or with the midfield because the midfielders are reluctant to get too far forward because they need to keep their shape for whatever defensive duty they will have.

Yesterday was a fine example of letting players play their natural game. Carey drifted around into space, and drove forward playing mostly simple intelligent passes. Lavs did his pressing with menaces and made the defence very nervous, bees was running the channels, and winning headers left right and centre, which were picked up by advancing midfield players getting forward. CJ was doing what he's best at running at defenders, and running into space at very high velocity. He's clearly told in other games not to get too far forward and his runs yesterday even when the ball wasn't played to him was drawing defenders and creating space where Kaddy, Carey, Byers lavs and others were exploiting it. The crosses we were putting in had five or even six players in or around the box to get on the end of it, normally we barely have two in there. In critchley's normal mode we would not have scored that third goal because a) there would not have been three or four players in the box potentially getting on the end of it, and coulson would have been miles back in his left partially defensive zone waiting for opposition recovery and a counter attack.
 
Seainsea said:
Also, how the opposition set's up. Barnsley came out to play and struggled to contain us. I like the combination of Carey/Coulson on the left and CJ/Dembele on the right. The introduction of Cosgrove at half-time gave them a focus and they went a bit more route 1 and they got a foothold in the game. We tired and dropped deeper and struggled with their physicality. This has been a factor in our poor away form, teams that are physical and deny us space to play.
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100% this.

The system works really well sometimes. Other times we struggle and those times are generally against a team we can't disturb with pressing and who go back to front effectively.
 
td53 said:
100% this.

The system works really well sometimes. Other times we struggle and those times are generally against a team we can't disturb with pressing and who go back to front effectively.
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And when we do struggle there is literally no plan b ..we are never proactive always reactive and there have been a number of managers this season who have out thought our supposed genius manager..yesterday was yet more proof that the squad has massively underachieved and some of that is down to the manager and his lack of tactical nous
 
The main difference yesterday, was instead of constantly passing it across our back line, to get our possession stats up, we got the ball forward quickly. So much more entertaining. In the end Barnsley had more possession than us, but it did not seem like it!
 
bfcpete said:
Quite So. And yet when it doesn't work, NC seems to get all the flak.
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The prior posts clearly highlight the differences between the plop we’ve had to endure this season and what these players can do . Who is responsible for managing players and tactics? That would be Critchley. What puzzles you.
 
TANGERINETOWERPOWER said:
And when we do struggle there is literally no plan b ..we are never proactive always reactive and there have been a number of managers this season who have out thought our supposed genius manager..yesterday was yet more proof that the squad has massively underachieved and some of that is down to the manager and his lack of tactical nous
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Which is why we struggled for the last 15 -20 mins yesterday. It could so easily have been 3-3 or even 3-4 at the end.
 
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