fcblackpool
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Third Test -India v England
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Jaffa_The_Hut
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FFS 50/7.
We’ve managed to lose 3 wickets without a single run being scored that takes some doing.
We’ve managed to lose 3 wickets without a single run being scored that takes some doing.
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Jaffa_The_Hut
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All over England all out for a shocking 114.
Well even I didn’t expect we would be all out on day 4.
Only word I can think of right now is shambles.
Roll on the next test.
No hang on we've been saved by a review we’re still in it.
All over now 122 all out.
Amazing how Wood on 33 becomes our top scorer.
India win by 434 runs.
Well even I didn’t expect we would be all out on day 4.
Only word I can think of right now is shambles.
Roll on the next test.
No hang on we've been saved by a review we’re still in it.
All over now 122 all out.
Amazing how Wood on 33 becomes our top scorer.
India win by 434 runs.
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fcblackpool
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Must admit I saw nothing but a draw when Eng were 220-2. Every credit to them to turn it into such a heavy defeat.All over England all out for a shocking 114.
Well even I didn’t expect we would be all out on day 4.
Only word I can think of right now is shambles.
Roll on the next test.
No hang on we've been saved by a review we’re still in it.
All over now 122 all out.
Amazing how Wood on 33 becomes our top scorer.
India win by 434 runs.
Friday will see some changes you'd think, one of Root or Bairstow will be dropped (Bairstow for me if Root is fit) for is it Lawrence the other batter? Wood will probably be rested for Robinson.
Mark_GT
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I've largely enjoyed the refreshing approach to test cricket over the last couple of years, but you also have to give yourself the best shot at winning. Some of the psychobabble they spout just sounds silly when we've been pumped like this. Australia will see nothing to fear. As for "Baz" doing his best David Brent impression on the balcony whenever the cameras linger there, give me strength 
Raging_Bull
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"Clears throat", do go on Leither...........................
I saw a table Jaffa which confirmed that since Stokes took over as captain we are the second most successful team in the history of test cricket!!!
Yes higher than Australia under Bradman and Ponting and India under Kohli. If that's not 'highly successful' I'm not sure what is?
Yeah the collapse on the final day was England of the pre Stokes era and pretty pathetic but the facts don't lie.
Both sides are half strength and I think there are more twists and turns to come. To say we are light years behind is just wrong.
One bad defeat and we've thrown the towel in!!! Come on - we are better than that?
As I've said in the previous post the Stokes test side is the best England test team ever so I wouldn't expect them to roll over from here.
It's only 2-1 . . . we'll come back.
fcblackpool
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An interesting stat that warrants deeper analysis regarding the strengths of the opposition played recently set against the general standard of TMC in years gone by. For example, it seems to me that in the 70's and 80's there were many strong teams; Aus, WI, Pak, SA* and India all had very good teams. No team was going to be completely dominant, although the WI with their bowling attack gave them the edge for a period.
I suppose in simple terms what I'm saying is back then the WI were a 9+ team, the rest 8.5+. Today only Eng, Aus and India are near that and probably only get an 8.5+ on good days.
I'm not sure the collective strength of TMC is as good now.
* Circumstances excepted.
This is the list . . . I knew the Stokes / McCullum era had been good but didn't realise we'd been that good.
fcblackpool
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Interesting BS has captained in less tests than anyone else on that list.
A stato's paradise all this, but as we all know stats don't give the whole story. No doubt though that BS has made test cricket far more entertaining, in a non-purist way, than it was.
I'd have just thought that rather than set out to lose that game, they actually may have tried to play for the draw. What would they have done if it was 1-1 and that was the 4th test. Throw the chance of a series win away? Sometimes you have to think a bit.
I know that mate and I'm not trying to say for one minute we are the second best test side of all time as we clearly aren't.
I'm just not happy to accept comments like we are light years away from the India side . . that is clearly not true.
fcblackpool
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Totally agree with that.
It's the bowling that is the difference and makes Eng probably second best. Tin hat on, but Anderson needs to retire, unless playing at C-L-S in May....a disservice to the great man I know, but it needs new blood. Probably the same with Wood. Bairstow needs finally drop kicking into Headingley- he's the total encapsulation of the flat track inferior team Bazball approach.
Jaffa_The_Hut
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Sorry mate it’s just my opinion if you don’t agree then fair enough but I think we are miles behind India when playing test match cricket.
We’ve got batsmen who haven’t performed for ages now but we keep persevering with them why?
I’ll stick my neck out now and say I don’t think we’ll win another test match this series we don’t look capable all of a sudden.
Big shake up for me required but hey don’t let it upset you as I’ve said just my view.
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fcblackpool
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Personally love reading both opinions. It's what makes cricket
Discussion doesn't upset me mate and as you say we are allowed to have different views.
I think the batting department has moved on a lot over the past few years and our first choice top 6 of Crawley, Duckett, Pope, Root, Brook & Stokes is as good any any other test playing country. They have all scored runs recently and I see no need to make radical changes.
The two players I'd let go are Bairstow & Jimmy . . . we need to move on and I think both have given us their best years.
I'd keep Foakes as the keeper and work out the right blend from a decent crop of young bowlers we have around the county circuit.
It all looks pretty rosy to me.
Raging_Bull
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Leither, for the record Joe Root is averaging less than 13 runs in this series, are you sure they have all scored runs recently?
For the record I'm sure we'll come roaring back in the summer when we are in English conditions, but the chances of beating India in India in a series is a total different ball game, even with India minus Virat Kohli, Sheras Iyer, Pant and Rahul in their all star batting line up they still are posting big scores and then their bowlers are at times unplayable.
I love Bazball and everything McCullum and Stokes have done for our Test side but they all know India away is a step too far.
Yeah I know Root is struggling at the moment - I was talking about the last year or so. We all know he is a class player so his form will return.
Maybe India away is a step too far but not many were saying that after the first test and hopefully we won't be saying it after the 5th
