www.theguardian.com
And before anyone starts going oh no it's the guardian, and it's supposedly Marxist left wing comic Stewart Lee (who likes to point out how many people can name funny right wing comics) just give it a read.The Euro final loss is a victory for what’s best about England | Stewart Lee
Gareth Southgate and his team are a reminder of what’s really worth celebrating about this country
I like this, it talks about modern England and what we should all value about it, and not value.
Not if you've had a good education.
Hardly Shakespeare is he ? What hubris,for someone so lacking in talent of any kind to tell others what they should value about anything . As for his ‘hilarious’ observation regarding right wing comedians, I agree however it doesn’t make left wing ones funny.The Euro final loss is a victory for what’s best about England | Stewart Lee
Gareth Southgate and his team are a reminder of what’s really worth celebrating about this country
I like this, it talks about modern England and what we should all value about it, and not value.
For someone so lacking in talent he's made a very good career out of being an acclaimed stand up and writer.
Or, you could just like to take offence - loudly- for the sake of it.
Football is politics as I keep pointing out, supporting a football team is politics, boycotting the o's was a political act. Anyway in this article he isn't trying to be funny it's just trying to paint a broad picture of what modern England is, not the archaic one the government and all these so-called culture warriors are touting, whilst wrapped in 'the flag'.
Yeah I know, I was responding sarcastically to another post.
Sorry I'd meant to be using vendors posted to quote not yours
Or I could express an opinion. Free speech, whilst slowly being eroded, is still one of the many things to enjoy in ‘This England’.
You did express an opinion, and that invites a response, it's debate, not a denial of your free speech, only the moderators can deny so called free speech if that speech transgresses certain boundaries of acceptability .
I’m not sure who keep pointing this out to but you are incorrect it is a game and boycotting was an expression of customer dissatisfaction. I will concede that the game is increasingly hijacked by the political elements of society but that does not make it political, merely another part of life that it being ruined by people with an agenda.
UTMPOk back to football, which do you think is going to be our most incisive form of attack this season down the left or right wing?I’m not sure who keep pointing this out to but you are incorrect it is a game and boycotting was an expression of customer dissatisfaction. I will concede that the game is increasingly hijacked by the political elements of society but that does not make it political, merely another part of life that it being ruined by people with an agenda.
The AVFTT Politics forum was set up for just this reason and I don’t go on there as I’m sure it’s frequented by those of all hues frothing at the mouth and forming little cabals to push their views at others.
Anyway back to football. Come on
Ok let's stick with football then, where are we most dangerous in the season ahead,on the left or right wing?I’m not sure who keep pointing this out to but you are incorrect it is a game and boycotting was an expression of customer dissatisfaction. I will concede that the game is increasingly hijacked by the political elements of society but that does not make it political, merely another part of life that it being ruined by people with an agenda.
The AVFTT Politics forum was set up for just this reason and I don’t go on there as I’m sure it’s frequented by those of all hues frothing at the mouth and forming little cabals to push their views at others.
Anyway back to football. Come on
There's usually much more imagination on the left wing as well, real creativity, the right wing can be very one dimensional with no actual subtlety."Ok let's stick with football then, where are we most dangerous in the season ahead, on the left or right wing?"
No doubt the right wing will be favoured this season, like it has been in all recent seasons. However, increasingly the ball is going very much over to the far-right, which is not where we should be playing the game at all! Somehow the left wing is very much out of favour at the moment even though, when given a chance to show what they can do, our left wingers always come up trumps and produce the goods.
But what of this modern fad for inverted wingers? Right wingers on the left and left wingers on the right...
Well, I remember one player in the 90s - Blair, I think - who I thought would be great on the left wing. Alas, he was into inverted wing-play from the start. He called it "new" wingers, or something like that.
It's just the new way, although you do find that they'll naturally drift back to their preferred wings when under pressure.
"Ok let's stick with football then, where are we most dangerous in the season ahead, on the left or right wing?"
No doubt the right wing will be favoured this season, like it has been in all recent seasons. However, increasingly the ball is going very much over to the far-right, which is not where we should be playing the game at all! Somehow the left wing is very much out of favour at the moment even though, when given a chance to show what they can do, our left wingers always come up trumps and produce the goods.
And having a very false number 10.
England is not the jewelled isle of Shakespeare's much-quoted message, nor is it the inferno depicted by Dr Goebbels. More than either it resembles a family, a rather stuffy Victorian family, with not many black sheep in it but with all its cupboards bursting with skeletons. It has rich relations who have to be kow-towed to and poor relations who are horribly sat upon, and there is a deep conspiracy of silence about the source of the family income. It is a family in which the young are generally thwarted and most of the power is in the hands of irresponsible uncles and bedridden aunts. Still, it is a family. It has its private language and its common memories, and at the approach of an enemy it closes its ranks. A family with the wrong members in control - that, perhaps is as near as one can come to describing England in a phrase.
I thought you’d have realised from my posts that I favour neither left nor right, particularly where it leads to inflexibility.
Through the middle then
Whatever is best for the teamThrough the middle then
Is it only free speech if you agree with it? You're slagging off his speech. Literally.
No. Yes.
FFS it's not real.
