Thank God he was only PM
I am not quite sure why this is seen as so outrageous.
Indeed, following their instructions from the Tory dominated board, who are doing the Barons bidding
Yep the right wing Murdoch press for you, meanwhile homelessness grows, food banks expand and the poorest suffer
Who's Chair is a Tory, appointed by the Tories.
3 election victories
There always are negatives. But the positives were worth it.
The minimum wage trumps all that.
And so it will continue for ever and a day, one side gets in, fucks it up, the people get pissed off and decide to vote the other way. The only variant is the amount of time the people who really manipulate who should be in power decide now is the time.
Any good he did totally eclipsed by following Bush into Iraq knowing there were no weapon of mass destruction. He should have learned from history what Harold Wilson did telling the Yanks he would not commit any troops to Vietnam.
Very close to the truth, in which, he’s worse.
I seem to remember that it was a certain chap whose father was in the circus who helped initiate the Northern Ireland treaty talks, Blair certainly carried on where he left off. Can I mention the name or is it a Major breach of the 30 year rule.
To be fair Wilf, all the good work was done by Mo Mowlem. The NI parties couldn’t stick Bliar, although he tried his best to take the credit.I seem to remember that it was a certain chap whose father was in the circus who helped initiate the Northern Ireland treaty talks, Blair certainly carried on where he left off. Can I mention the name or is it a Major breach of the 30 year rule.
Nothing to do with negativity against Labour, we get similar things this time every year, it's when the 25 years expires on freedom of information.k
In fact, a lot of the problems that followed stem from Bliar rushing to get it over the line precisely so he could take the credit.
Did either happen?
It was a mistake yes but it had cross party support. Quite a few Labour MPs voted against it but hardly any Conservatives. If the Tories were in power we would have gone down the same path that's for sure.
You are right as to the source, but I still think the selections will fulfill their devil's pact
Can't agree. You are correct 100% about Iraq and his international standing, but his Government also reduced waiting lists in the NHS, paid off huge amounts of National Debt, reduced child poverty, stuff that really made a big difference too the less well off in the UK.
Cross-party support, based on lies about WMD and the government's true intentions, a highly questionable opinion on the legality of the war by the AG, and a general suppression of debate of the risks, costs and benefits of the war.
Advisors presented a report with a list of options, one of which was putting migrants in camps in the Falklands. It was obviously not implemented. This is not evidence that Blair "wanted" this.
Reports are that he was very keen on the idea: Mr Blair scrawled “just return them”, adding: “This is precisely the point. We must not allow the ECHR to stop us dealing with it.”
Pretty weak to suggest this is evidence he wanted to set up camps in the Falklands.
2 Tories voted against it, in fairness albeit after being fed a pack of lies. Think the answer is fairly obvious what they would have done in power.
It wasn't "advisors", it was his chief of staff Jonathan Powell, and he was not somebody who would put something like that in the official record unless Bliar had already indicated interest.
Oh, really?
Discussions happening and somebody else suggesting something, no matter how close or senior, is not the same as the PM wanting something. It's normal governance that happens all the time. There were also other suggestions in the report, did Blair simultaneously want all at once, even where they contradicted and competed with each other? That logically fails.
I know that 2 Conservative MPs voted against it.
You also said it was obvious what they would've done if they were in power, so why aren't you answering my question?
I'm led mostly to the conclusion by the fact we have actual votes that happened and only a handful voted against it.
But you said yourself "albeit after being fed a pack of lies", so the votes are not a reliable indicator of what would've happened in a Conservative alternative reality, and we really have no way of knowing what would've happened in that circumstance.
Very well, I was working for them.
Utter speculation.
️ of the highest order.
